Joey’s in bother again

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:41 pm

Between 2006 and 2013 from a quick google.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:47 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:41 pm
Between 2006 and 2013 from a quick google.
https://www.thefa.com/news/2017/jul/27/ ... eld-270717
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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by AmbleClaret » Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:59 pm

He's now dropoed the Fred West analogy and brought up Pol Pot and Stalin. This can only surely end up in court, he really has gone far and beyond decency and legality this time.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:02 pm

He’s acting like he’s just been dumped by Billie Piper
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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Stayingup » Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:04 pm

Very intelligent and usually correct is Joseph. Here ... well.its just a slip up but he's entertaining. Listening to BBC just now Shearer is on the other side of the spectrum. Very decent honourable guy but hell he ccould alk a glass eye to sleep.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:57 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:59 pm
He's now dropoed the Fred West analogy and brought up Pol Pot and Stalin. This can only surely end up in court, he really has gone far and beyond decency and legality this time.
You seriously think a moderately risqué analogy will “ end up in court “? While Barton is clearly overstepping the mark and seems to be suffering a very public nervous breakdown, this is no more going to court than Barton is going to Tai Chi classes .

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:02 pm

I think it’s more the allegations about Schofield and ITV that could see him in legal trouble. He was also making truly awful comments about one of Ed Balls’ children yesterday.
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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by AmbleClaret » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:17 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:57 pm
You seriously think a moderately risqué analogy will “ end up in court “? While Barton is clearly overstepping the mark and seems to be suffering a very public nervous breakdown, this is no more going to court than Barton is going to Tai Chi classes .
Seen things on a far lesser brought to court and ended up with a conviction. I'm not on anyone's side,just saying he needs to be careful.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by pureclaret » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:17 pm

Damo wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:52 pm
He's made some pretty valid points to be fair.
He just maybe needs to tone down the language a little.
I havnt seen any valid comments the guy is a tool
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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by yTib » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:21 pm

i used to quite like him but i think he's been sniffing the same stuff as that andrew tate thug.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by pureclaret » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:21 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:04 pm
Very intelligent and usually correct is Joseph. Here ... well.its just a slip up but he's entertaining. Listening to BBC just now Shearer is on the other side of the spectrum. Very decent honourable guy but hell he ccould alk a glass eye to sleep.
Whilst you are entitled to your opinion, you are toatlay wrong that the guy is inteligent and correct, he need to be sectioned before he incites problems

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Big Vinny K » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:24 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:04 pm
Very intelligent and usually correct is Joseph.
Really ?
Why is he intelligent ?

Cos he started wearing glasses and told the world he was studying for a degree ? (which I believe he didn’t finish)

Or is it because he made a d-ick of himself on Question Time or put on a daft French accent in a press conference ?

As far as I can see he’s thick as pig-****.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by aggi » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:25 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:53 pm
Obviously his views are pretty abhorrent but he is of course entitled to them, however from the escalation of his posts I can only see this ending in criminal or civil action against him. I read a post yesterday where he was mocking Ed Balls for having a 'trannie' child. The guy's an absolute melon and always has been, I bet he's surprised by how little support he's receiving on social media.
Entirely unsurprising that that was his next target. It's pretty clear the audience he's targeting.
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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by yTib » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:25 pm

pureclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:21 pm
Whilst you are entitled to your opinion, you are toatlay wrong that the guy is inteligent and correct, he need to be sectioned before he incites problems
he's right about shearer though. all the personality of quinoa.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by pureclaret » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:38 pm

yTib wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:25 pm
he's right about shearer though. all the personality of quinoa.
lol

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:42 pm

I’d imagine he’ll receive some kind of warning from whoever represents the commentators and you’d expect ( if he’s got even half a brain ) to apologise that he’s “gone over top and no personal offensive intended “ and can crawl away as his career is surely over .

Though let’s not forget male pundits get terrible abuse and nobody on earth could deny Eni Aluko is so bad it’s painful to witness.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:55 pm

pureclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:21 pm
Whilst you are entitled to your opinion, you are toatlay wrong that the guy is inteligent and correct, he need to be sectioned before he incites problems
From what I was told today, he genuinely does need help, his family have been trying but he’s buggered off abroad

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:14 pm

He’s probably not coming back as half time guest.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Awayfromburnley » Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:54 pm

He spouts absolute rubbish, to gain attention.

He was good for us.

He was a thug off the pitch.

He is going through a psychotic episode and needs help. Feels kind of weird seeing it all unfold an the circus that encourages him have a lot to answer for.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:25 pm

I mean, it’s not been confirmed he’s going through a psychotic episode. He may well be. But he’s also very clearly on a grift that many others are on - there’s a reason he’s now pivoting away from women in football to other stuff like anti-trans hate speech. A well trodden path, and there’s a number of people out there who cheerlead those views.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by basil6345789 » Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:39 pm

He needs to have another chat with Dyche

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:41 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:24 pm
As far as I can see he’s thick as pig-****.
Some people start from such a low level, that they consider the ability to string a coherent sentence together as the mark of an intelligent mind. Use a 'big word' and they think you're either a king or a god.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by AlargeClaret » Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:01 am

He appears to ranting again this morning , maybe he’s an epiphany ? and woke up to find Andrew Tate at the foot of his bed in an embrace with Shola ,and hearing the words “ go forth and grift “ he’s decided to take up the mantle with gusto .

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by HahaYeah » Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:35 pm

Todays tweets that are upsetting the Woke mob...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... arton.html

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by aggi » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:05 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:35 pm
Todays tweets that are upsetting the Woke mob...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... arton.html
It's pretty inarguable that Gary Neville has had a much more successful football career at a higher level than Joey Barton so does that mean we have to listen to what Neville says and ignore Barton?

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:09 pm

The things you learn. Barton's grandad fought in the Great War to stop women commenting on football or something or other...

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by RicardoMontalban » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:13 pm

One of Barton’s problems, of which there are many, is that by going in two footed (true to himself at least) from the off with his crass Fred and Rose West comments is he’s got nowhere left to go. Every subsequent rant, rather than ratcheting up his shock value schtick, has just highlighted what a sad, low grade chump he really is.

Invoking his gassed forebear as reason for his weird obsession with women’s football is almost comic book in its ridiculousness. Even his grifting is low grade, not that that seems to matter much these days.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by LDNBFC87 » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:17 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:35 pm
Todays tweets that are upsetting the Woke mob...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... arton.html
What does woke mean?

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:18 pm

Now he’s mentioned his great grandfather dying in the war and that Joey is simply carrying out his duty to his memory I think that puts a different slant on things.

Arise Sir Joseph Barton OBE, CBE, MBE, TIT, NUT, JOB

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:26 pm

After what happened with foster I'm surprised more empathy isn't shown towards JB with what could potentially be a similar condition.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:29 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:26 pm
After what happened with foster I'm surprised more empathy isn't shown towards JB with what could potentially be a similar condition.
Has Barton or his representative stated publicly that he's suffering mental health problems?

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:31 pm

Clovius Boofus wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:29 pm
Has Barton or his representative stated publicly that he's suffering mental health problems?
Does that have to take place for something to be identified.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:31 pm

LDNBFC87 wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:17 pm
What does woke mean?
"Woke" means being a normal, confident and well - balanced human being as opposed to being terrified of foreigners, other people's success, women, the disabled and progress.
I'm sure I've missed a couple of things but you get the gist.
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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:31 pm

So, you're making an online diagnosis?

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:32 pm

You clearly missed the word potentially from my original post.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:36 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:26 pm
After what happened with foster I'm surprised more empathy isn't shown towards JB with what could potentially be a similar condition.
I prefer Foster's more dignified acceptance of his difficulties and his attempts to use others to overcome them.
Barton's problems- greed and or auditioning for whatever future job he has in mind or, indeed, his "potential" mental issues - make him look like a knob.
Either way, he is being badly advised.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:39 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:36 pm
I prefer Foster's more dignified acceptance of his difficulties and his attempts to use others to overcome them.
Barton's problems- greed and or auditioning for whatever future job he has in mind or, indeed, his "potential" mental issues - make him look like a knob.
Either way, he is being badly advised.
Mental health doesn't come in 1 shape or size, I agree bartons attitude & conduct is wrong but it's still deserves a degree of understanding if the issue is a mental health problem.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:41 pm

When that is proved to be the case, I'll accept that this latest bout of distasteful nonsense is not deliberate.
Until then, I'll consider him to be the worthless gobshite he appears to be.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:43 pm

So what do we do ?
Let him do or say anything he wants just because he might have mental health issues ?
How would that work exactly in the rest of society ?

If at some point JB is diagnosed with issues that’s when he deserves some empathy and sympathy.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by HahaYeah » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:43 pm

aggi wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:05 pm
It's pretty inarguable that Gary Neville has had a much more successful football career at a higher level than Joey Barton so does that mean we have to listen to what Neville says and ignore Barton?
I think they're both qualified, I especially like GN as a pundit but then there's this..

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nc5MBQim9Bw

and the Woke mob here are calling JB thick. :lol:

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:43 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:32 pm
You clearly missed the word potentially from my original post.
I'm not going to spend my time quibbling with you, because when you get going, you could bore for Britain, but until we know differently, we have no idea. HTH.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by LDNBFC87 » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:43 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:31 pm
"Woke" means being a normal, confident and well - balanced human being as opposed to being terrified of foreigners, other people's success, women, the disabled and progress.
I'm sure I've missed a couple of things but you get the gist.
That's pretty much how I'd define it. Simply; aware of the struggles and circumstances of others.

Was checking in to see whether HY knew the meaning....

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:44 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:41 pm
When that is proved to be the case, I'll accept that this latest bout of distasteful nonsense is not deliberate.
Until then, I'll consider him to be the worthless gobshite he is.
You can but forgive me if I think you are an ignorant imbecile for not reserving judgement until you can be sure 1 way or the other whether he does have a mental health issue.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:49 pm

Oh dear, Jakub, what happened to all that sanctimonious crap you spouted a few weeks ago about not making personal comments to fellow posters and er, sticking to the discussion?

Your counselling skills have clearly given you far more insight into the human condition, assessing and confirming Barton's diagnosis almost immediately.
Well done that man!
As I said, I'll be quite prepared to give the lad some slack if and when your diagnosis is proved correct. Seems fair to me.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:53 pm

Call it consistency regarding a degree of empathy towards the stigma of mental health. While googling retrospectively you can also google potentially & diagnose if I claimed what you have stated.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:54 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:44 pm
You can but forgive me if I think you are an ignorant imbecile for not reserving judgement until you can be sure 1 way or the other whether he does have a mental health issue.
Talk about being a slippery hypocrite. You posted this less than half an hour ago; After what happened with foster I'm surprised more empathy isn't shown towards JB with what could potentially be a similar condition.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by HahaYeah » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:55 pm

LDNBFC87 wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:17 pm
What does woke mean?
It's a deliberately vague term which is basically shorthand for extreme political correctness and the
demonisation and even sacking of anyone who challenges the woke narrative.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:56 pm

Potentially it means it's got the capability of something developing in the future it doesn't mean it will or it has.

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Re: Joey’s in bother again

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:57 pm

God, you're dull.

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