Joey’s in bother again

[evensteadiereddie]

You were proved wrong many times before, Jakub, and will no doubt be proved wrong again.
Anyway, you are happy to indulge Barton's behaviour on the off chance he might be mentally unstable, I'm happy to consider him a complete gobshite until there are reasonable grounds for thinking otherwise.
Seems fair to me.

[Big Vinny K]

It's a deliberately vague term which is basically shorthand for extreme political correctness and the
demonisation and even sacking of anyone who challenges the woke narrative.

Funny how different people interpret it in different ways.

I thought it was a word invented by people like you when you had lost an argument and had nothing else to say

[evensteadiereddie]

It's a deliberately vague term which is basically shorthand for extreme political correctness and the
demonisation and even sacking of anyone who challenges the woke narrative.

So basically the opposite of right wing "nut job".

[Jamesy]

"Woke" means being a normal, confident and well - balanced human being as opposed to being terrified of foreigners, other people's success, women, the disabled and progress.
I'm sure I've missed a couple of things but you get the gist.

I’m not sure many wokies are well balanced? They are usually normal confident kind human beings…………….. as long as you subscribe to their points of view.

[MrTopTier]

Woke,Gammon. Why bother?

Just use c*nt

Joey Barton is a c*nt.

Easy straightforward definition, hints at a level of anger and everyone knows where they are with it.

Apologies for the bad language.

[Jamesy]

Woke,Gammon. Why bother?

Just use c*nt

Joey Barton is a c*nt.

Easy straightforward definition, hints at a level of anger and everyone knows where they are with it.

Apologies for the bad language.

He does appear to be a little “unhinged” at present. Perhaps your description of him is OTT? Acting like a pr!ck would be my way of describing him.

[aggi]

I think they're both qualified, I especially like GN as a pundit but then there's this..

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nc5MBQim9Bw

and the Woke mob here are calling JB thick.

I mean if we're going to just pick random clips can I introduce you to some of Michael Owen's fine thoughts on football.

[HahaYeah]

I mean if we're going to just pick random clips can I introduce you to some of Michael Owen's fine thoughts on football.

As bad as claiming that 19 goals in 40 games = a goal a game?

If they are as bad as that then perhaps he shouldn't be in the job.

[Devils_Advocate]

I mean if we're going to just pick random clips can I introduce you to some of Michael Owen's fine thoughts on football.

or Kevin Keegan....

- "Argentina won’t be at Euro 2000 because they’re from South America.”

-“Not many teams will come to Arsenal and get anything, home or away.”

– “I came to Nantes two years ago and it’s much the same today, except that it’s totally different.”

– “There’ll be no siestas in Madrid tonight.”

– “England have the best fans in the world and Scotland’s fans are second-to-none.”

– “You’re not just getting international football, you’re getting world football.”

– “They’re the second best team in the world, and there’s no higher praise than that.”

– “The Germans only have one player under 22, and he’s 23.”

– “The good news for Nigeria is that they’re 2-0 down very early in the game.”

– “We are three games without defeat is another way of looking at it. But if we are honest we have taken two points from nine.”

– “We deserved to win this game after hammering them 0-0 in the first half.”

– “Chile have three options – they could win or they could lose.”

– “I’ll never play at Wembley again, unless I play at Wembley again.”

– ”That would have been a goal if it wasn’t saved.”

– “The substitute is about to come on – he’s a player who was left out of the starting line-up today.”

– “He scores most of his goals when he’s got the ball.”

– “Shaun Wright-Phillips has got a big heart. It’s as big as him, which isn’t very big, but it’s bigger.”

– “The 33 or 34-year-olds will be 36 or 37 by the time the next World Cup comes around, if they’re not careful.”

– “I’ve had an interest in racing all my life, or longer really.”

– “The tide is very much in our court now.”

– “I don’t think there’s anyone bigger or smaller than Maradona.”

– “It’s understandable that people are keeping one eye on the pot and another up the chimney.”

– “Goalkeepers aren’t born today until they’re in their late twenties or thirties.”

– “It could be far worse for me if it was easy for me.”

– “One of his strengths is not heading.”

– “You can’t play with a one-armed goalkeeper…not at this level.”

[Big Vinny K]

The Sean Wright Phillips one made me spit my brew out !

[aggi]

As bad as claiming that 19 goals in 40 games = a goal a game?

If they are as bad as that then perhaps he shouldn't be in the job.

“Whichever team scores more goals usually wins.” or of course “When they don’t score they hardly ever win.”

[HahaYeah]

“Whichever team scores more goals usually wins.” or of course “When they don’t score they hardly ever win.”

Is that it?

Keegan and Owen both crap and shouldn't be doing pundit work.

Neither of them got the job for Woke box ticking.

[JLR81]

the Keegan quotes are hilarious

[evensteadiereddie]

Is that it?

Keegan and Owen both crap and shouldn't be doing pundit work.

Neither of them got the job for Woke box ticking.

Did they even apply?

[Lip]

Did they even apply?

Bet you did Eddie.

[aggi]

Is that it?

Keegan and Owen both crap and shouldn't be doing pundit work.

Neither of them got the job for Woke box ticking.

And yet here they are doing pundit work and not being compared to serial killers. Makes you think eh.

[HahaYeah]

Both Keegan and Owen are household names.

Keegan fell foul of the Wokestapo for not going along with the narrative re women commentaters.

[evensteadiereddie]

Bet you did Eddie.

Well, yes I did, but you had to bring your own pen so, nah, turned it down.

[Jakubclaret]

And yet here they are doing pundit work and not being compared to serial killers. Makes you think eh.

I think you've just done a pretty good job reinforcing the mindset of somebody's cognitive functioning to be allegedly kosher & not impaired there.

[Clovius Boofus]

I don't understand how not being misogynist about women commentating on a sport is somehow a woke thing. I'm not being funny, but if such a thing really irks you, then in my opinion you're a bit odd.

By the way, according to my dad, it was the same with the first woman to present the news on TV. He said the blokes who got angry about it were odd too.

[pureclaret]

It's a deliberately vague term which is basically shorthand for extreme political correctness and the
demonisation and even sacking of anyone who challenges the woke narrative.

You have it so wrong it is not vague or shorthand for extreme views. It is just straight forward a word used to decribe being aware of or to have a heightened awareness of social and racial injustices.

[fidelcastro]

You have it so wrong it is not vague or shorthand for extreme views. It is just straight forward a word used to decribe being aware of or to have a heightened awareness of social and racial injustices.

I thought it was a word designed for people who were too thick to spell PC.

[yTib]

'wokestapo'.

a new one on me and two boxes ticked in a single word.

hail.

[Damo]

It wasn't that long ago that some of you declared twitter to be finished.
A right wing "nut job" has got you all hooked again. Even the ones who claim to have blocked him, yet see every tweet he posts.
It's a funny old world

[pureclaret]

I thought it was a word designed for people who were too thick to spell PC.

love it

[AmbleClaret]

Quite ironic that after spouting some pretty vile abuse about people who don't know what they're talking about, the man himself posts this yesterday - RIP Frank Beckenbauer. Obviously Franzs' less famous brother.

[LDNBFC87]

It's a deliberately vague term which is basically shorthand for extreme political correctness and the
demonisation and even sacking of anyone who challenges the woke narrative.

That's certainly how some people are trying to reframe it but that's not what the word actually means.

Woke: Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination'

[Sproggy]

Langauge changes and the defintion of words change. Woke has moved on fairly quickly - but of course you know this.

It's why Sherlock Holmes ejaculates quite frequently in the Arthur Conan-Doyle novels.

[Bosscat]

I thought it was a word designed for people who were too thick to spell PC.

[pureclaret]

I posted then deleated it as, yes hes got a bite from me but really I think I shall refrain from this topic as, I cant make a difference and my opinion does not matter to people like him, other than to say hes pushed my buttons.

[LDNBFC87]

Langauge changes and the defintion of words change. Woke has moved on fairly quickly - but of course you know this.

It's why Sherlock Holmes ejaculates quite frequently in the Arthur Conan-Doyle novels.

True, language does evolve. Usually it does so naturally rather than in a totally disingenuous manner.

[JR1882]

Joey seems strange at the moment, he makes a valid point wrongly, it’s shouldn’t be about women, just selecting poor broadcasters in general.

There are some shockers both men and women. Just because you played football it doesn’t make you good at discussing it/broadcasting.

I wouldn’t listen to some of the female pundits Barton has mentioned, but not because they are women, they are just bad at that job. I could (and do) listen to Nicki Bandini on podcasts all day, English isn’t even her first language and yet she is flawless. Alex Hammond on Sky Racing is superb and has an unrivalled knowledge of her subject area.

This issue isn’t women pundits, it’s sh1t pundits, of which there are loads, some of them are women, some aren’t.

[Nori1958]

That's certainly how some people are trying to reframe it but that's not what the word actually means.

Woke: Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination'

It's a shame Lancaster has disappeared, he would have certainly known the definition

[AlargeClaret]

Just had a look at Joey’s Twitter and he’s currently on an anti vax rant ! Ffs he’s gone full nut job , what next for our former midfield general ? Chem trails ? moon landings ?

[Burnley1989]

Just had a look at Joey’s Twitter and he’s currently on an anti vax rant ! Ffs he’s gone full nut job , what next for our former midfield general ? Chem trails ? moon landings ?

He's moving in with Matt Le 'tinfoil' Tissier and selling CBD gummys for Anthony Fowler I think

[Bordeauxclaret]

Joey doesn’t think women should be listened to when they talk about men’s football as they haven’t played at the top level.


But when Matt Le Tissier talks about science and Covid vaccines…..

[NottsClaret]

I was kind of hoping he was just going down this route to grift some easy money off people with flags in their bios but unfortunately it appears he has genuinely fully lost it. He'll be protesting 15 minute cities with Rickie Lambert in a week or two.

[daveisaclaret]

I understand people with these views are very easy to grift from but it blows my mind that anti-vax stuff is still going. Mental.

[AlargeClaret]

Has he blamed the Jews for everything yet ? Or has he passed that stars and moved onto “ auditing”…

[HahaYeah]

The Wokestapo are moving in to shut him down.

He keeps worrying the sheep.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... n-comments

[RicardoMontalban]

How off beam do you have to be to consider a Conservative minister a member of the ‘wokestapo’?

[Clovius Boofus]

The Wokestapo are moving in to shut him down.

Eh? A Conservative minister has the decency to call it out for what it is, and somehow you consider him to be part of something called 'Wokestapo'. Maybe he's like most normal blokes. You know, like the vast majority of us who don't hate women. Thing is though, calling the Tory Sports Minister 'wokestapo' says way more about you than anything else.

[Swizzlestick]

The Wokestapo are moving in to shut him down.

He keeps worrying the sheep.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... n-comments

Read back what you're typing - how do you not cringe?

[HahaYeah]

Eh? A Conservative minister has the decency to call it out for what it is, and somehow you consider him to be part of something called 'Wokestapo'. Maybe he's like most normal blokes. You know, like the vast majority of us who don't hate women. Thing is though, calling the Tory Sports Minister 'wokestapo' says way more about you than anything else.

Joey doesn't hate women, I'm pretty sure he's married with a daughter so don't talk soft.

[Clovius Boofus]

Joey doesn't hate women, I'm pretty sure he's married with a daughter so don't talk soft.

[AlargeClaret]

How off beam do you have to be to consider a Conservative minister a member of the ‘wokestapo’?

While your point is correct , I think it’s the case that it was the Guardian leading the story , and even the most swivel eyed leftist wouldn’t argue with their “ woke “ credentials.

That said, he’s a very public figure and instead of just starting a mildly controversial debate he’s gone “ full grift” and short of making porn with Lozza Fox you wonder where on earth he goes from here ? The Priory hopefully …

[RicardoMontalban]

While your point is correct , I think it’s the case that it was the Guardian leading the story , and even the most swivel eyed leftist wouldn’t argue with their “ woke “ credentials.

That said, he’s a very public figure and instead of just starting a mildly controversial debate he’s gone “ full grift” and short of making porn with Lozza Fox you wonder where on earth he goes from here ? The Priory hopefully …

The Times is running with it too, possibly even published first. Either way it’s a report on statements by the current government minister.

The image in para 2 does not bear thinking about.

[Big Vinny K]

Joey doesn't hate women, I'm pretty sure he's married with a daughter so don't talk soft.

File under “how can I be ?….my friend is brown”

Just because he is married and has a daughter it does not mean he doesn’t hate certain women and it’s clear he has a very big issue with what he thinks women should or should not do.

[aggi]

Joey doesn’t think women should be listened to when they talk about men’s football as they haven’t played at the top level.


But when Matt Le Tissier talks about science and Covid vaccines…..

He is a man though.

[HahaYeah]

File under “how can I be ?….my friend is brown”

Just because he is married and has a daughter it does not mean he doesn’t hate certain women and it’s clear he has a very big issue with what he thinks women should or should not do.

I think what he's saying is women who are terrible at commentating on football shouldn't be commentating on football.