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Arguably the worst pound for pound signing the club has ever made. An abomination of a footballer with the heart of a pea. A total disgrace and I hope we never see him in a Burnley shirt again. And I'm serious. Get Zaroury and Benson back on the pitch and give us some players we can get behind.
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Benson would have lifted the crowd as well and possibly got us bringing the ball out wide instead of getting pushed back so much, instead we are all baffled yet again at the substitutions.
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Really really struggle to see were Tresor goes from here. Even beginning of last season when benson was getting slated you at least saw what he was all about, for example his debut against Luton at home funnily enough and the fact that the game after Watford identified kicking him out the game.
I just don’t see anything in Tresor, I was very cautious about people using the fact he got 24 assists as a must signing, assists can be very misleading
I just don’t see anything in Tresor, I was very cautious about people using the fact he got 24 assists as a must signing, assists can be very misleading
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He's probably on VKs agency books, so the more we payed for him the more VK gets. Just a thought with him being so bad.jlup1980 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:06 pmArguably the worst pound for pound signing the club has ever made. An abomination of a footballer with the heart of a pea. A total disgrace and I hope we never see him in a Burnley shirt again. And I'm serious. Get Zaroury and Benson back on the pitch and give us some players we can get behind.
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You think VK needs money that desperately. Do you not think itd be more profitable for him in the long run to actually win games.Barlickclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:27 pmHe's probably on VKs agency books, so the more we payed for him the more VK gets. Just a thought with him being so bad.
Ridiculous thing to say.
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Think he’s trying to replicate that stat in errors this season.
I’m very much pro Kompany but I just don’t understand how on earth he thinks he should be coming on to see a game out. He is weak as ****. So, incidentally is Amdouni, but at least he has some redeeming skills.
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Got to agree with most tonight, Tresor was weak, uninterested and pathetic when he came on. We would have seen that game out if Cork had come on.
Clearly Tresor does not want to be at Burnley so move him on ASAP.
Clearly Tresor does not want to be at Burnley so move him on ASAP.
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Like I said further up, I saw the vision. 5 at the back, see the game out, plenty of space in behind Luton for fresh legs to counter.NewClaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:35 pmThink he’s trying to replicate that stat in errors this season.
I’m very much pro Kompany but I just don’t understand how on earth he thinks he should be coming on to see a game out. He is weak as ****. So, incidentally is Amdouni, but at least he has some redeeming skills.
The lack of effort from both Tresor and Larsen was totally unacceptable and I’d happily never see either of them wear the shirt again such was the importance of tonight’s game. They couldn’t even be arsed to run around for 5 minutes at the end.
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I thought JBL did okay. Tresor’s half arsed clearance inexcusable though. Been s*** since he came here and needs dropping from the bench for that alone in my opinion.KRBFC wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:40 pmLike I said further up, I saw the vision. 5 at the back, see the game out, plenty of space in behind Luton for fresh legs to counter.
The lack of effort from both Tresor and Larsen was totally unacceptable and I’d happily never see either of them wear the shirt again.
Kompany needs to be clear if you make errors like that you don’t see the team again in a long while.
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Anyone who thinks enough money is enough, needs their head looking at. You only have to look at the players who have moved to SA to see that….
Look. I don’t know what the crack is with tresor, but what I see when he’s on the pitch is a player who doesn’t bring anywhere near enough…. It’s not even close. He’d struggle to make an impact at championship level.
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Yeah he's making me think Ben Gibson was good value for moneyjlup1980 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:06 pmArguably the worst pound for pound signing the club has ever made. An abomination of a footballer with the heart of a pea. A total disgrace and I hope we never see him in a Burnley shirt again. And I'm serious. Get Zaroury and Benson back on the pitch and give us some players we can get behind.
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I can’t recall Larsen touching the ball, putting a foot in or anything. Just strolled around like he was more concerned with keeping warm than helping his team win a vital game. Proper half arsed, they should have been non stop for 5-10 minutes, fully committing to tackles, stopping the wing backs from crossing etcNewClaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:42 pmI thought JBL did okay. Tresor’s half arsed clearance inexcusable though. Been s*** since he came here and needs dropping from the bench for that alone in my opinion.
Kompany needs to be clear if you make errors like that you don’t see the team again in a long while.
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How much do you think hed make in commission off Tresor making appearances. Utterly childish argument.bobinho wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:49 pmAnyone who thinks enough money is enough, needs their head looking at. You only have to look at the players who have moved to SA to see that….
Look. I don’t know what the crack is with tresor, but what I see when he’s on the pitch is a player who doesn’t bring anywhere near enough…. It’s not even close. He’d struggle to make an impact at championship level.
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Re: Mike Tresor
Exactly this.
The substitutions killed us tonight.
You're spot on re: Cork but also:
Foster was shattered and should clearly have been replaced.
Tresor was the worst possible option for Odobert who also doesn't defend well, but always looks a threat on the break.
VAR need never have got involved if we'd seen out the game properly with our use of subs.
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He was decent in a good team in a rubbish league. When it comes to a battle and putting yourself about to earn the right to play football he is miles away. I can forgive people being crap, but to have no fight or desire is not for me.
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Bringing Zaroury and Benson on would lift the crowd. What must they think when they're sat on the bench behind Tresor and JBL in the pecking order. Something has gone drastically wrong this season. We're a total mess. Call it square pegs in round holes, call it having some shiny new toys. Whatever it is, we look a million miles from the collective we had last season and Tresor epitomises this entirely. He should be shipped out on loan this month.KRBFC wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:40 pmLike I said further up, I saw the vision. 5 at the back, see the game out, plenty of space in behind Luton for fresh legs to counter.
The lack of effort from both Tresor and Larsen was totally unacceptable and I’d happily never see either of them wear the shirt again such was the importance of tonight’s game. They couldn’t even be arsed to run around for 5 minutes at the end.
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Because i dont think he is profiting off a player at the cost of team? No you're right calling me VKs love child is not childish at all either. You seem an intelligent chap.Barlickclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:56 pmAre you VKs love child, they are all in the game for money, it's money what's ruined it as a sport. Not a childish argument at all.
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He was the wrong sub for those circumstances tonight but folk writing him off were on Fosters case not that long ago. Supporting them come rain or shine will improve our prospects and your outlook.
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Both him and JBL were unnecessary subs but Tresor's lack of effort or indeed anything else was a disgrace.
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The difference with foster last season was when things weren’t coming off for him, he actually looked like was tryingwhat_no_pies wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:03 amHe was the wrong sub for those circumstances tonight but folk writing him off were on Fosters case not that long ago. Supporting them come rain or shine will improve our prospects and your outlook.
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Hang on a minute… I thought we weren’t allowed to criticise any of our players?
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Im baffled that he keeps being played wide also just to add to this. He clearly isnt capable and isnt willing do get through the amount of work needed in that position. He shpuld br competing with Amdouni and Rodriguez for the number 10 role
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So he was obviously trying and our fans were sabotaging him too. It's even harder to understand their mindset. Trafford getting pelters from folk tonight. Abusing any of our players undermines our prospects. Supporters should offer support. A swell of ours are poison.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:05 amThe difference with foster last season was when things weren’t coming off for him, he actually looked like was trying
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You said it was a childish argument because other posters have there views, that's what this board is for. But your obviously a more intelligent chap than most posters.
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Do fans not have the right to voice frustration when it looks like a player isn’t interested and backs out of putting a foot inwhat_no_pies wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:10 amSo he was obviously trying and our fans were sabotaging him too. It's even harder to understand their mindset. Trafford getting pelters from folk tonight. Abusing any of our players undermines our prospects. Supporters should offer support. A swell of ours are poison.
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Yes but when those views are so ridiculous and bordering on libellous it should probably be called out for the b0llocks that it isBarlickclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:13 amYou said it was a childish argument because other posters have there views, that's what this board is for. But your obviously a more intelligent chap than most posters.
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I was pleased when we signed him because of his record last season and his performance against us in the pre season friendly. But he has the heart of a chicken. I have never seen a player swerve so much to avoid the ball that was kicked towards him and have such frailty in possession. I can't understand what the idea was by VK. In hind sight, might have been wiser to put Cork on earlier instead for stability instead of one minute before the end of added time.
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Has the demeanour of a man who doesn’t want to be here. Not arsed, strolls around for his odd cameo. Doesn’t even attempt to bust a gut to try and clinch a starting place. Looks fairly content to sit of the bench and pick up a wage.
Oh, and what a great way to win over a Burnley crowd, by the way. Shirking out of 2/3 tackles against a relegation rival when we’re under the cosh. He’s coming across like an absolute fraud.
Should be some real questions asked of VK if he continues to use him over Zaroury, Benson, Redmond etc.
Oh, and what a great way to win over a Burnley crowd, by the way. Shirking out of 2/3 tackles against a relegation rival when we’re under the cosh. He’s coming across like an absolute fraud.
Should be some real questions asked of VK if he continues to use him over Zaroury, Benson, Redmond etc.
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I really don’t like Tresor. I don’t know what some people see in him at all. He’s slow, so laid back as though he has all the time in the world, doesn’t seem to care too much about losing the ball.
I can’t believe we’ve committed so much money for him based upon a friendly in the summer. It’s mental.
I can’t believe we’ve committed so much money for him based upon a friendly in the summer. It’s mental.
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The best piece of business we can do this summer will be to find a way to not have to pay for this waste of oxygen.
We’ll be talking about this lazy streak for years after he’s gone as being one of the worst and laziest players to pull on the Claret shirt.
We’ll be talking about this lazy streak for years after he’s gone as being one of the worst and laziest players to pull on the Claret shirt.
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I don't knock our players but Tresor was just not interested tonight. When you're brought on as a sub it's an opportunity to show the gaffer that you should have been in the starting line-up. He's done nothing all season - not what we needed in the dying minutes against Luton who were clearly going to throw everything at us. I'm gutted because once again, as the commentary team reminded us, we've lost so many points from a winning position.
And let's face facts, it looked like two Championship sides out there tonight. Until now I've had faith but there's only one outcome this season. UTC
And let's face facts, it looked like two Championship sides out there tonight. Until now I've had faith but there's only one outcome this season. UTC
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Absolute waste of money
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I think he's looked poor and disinterested all season but his sub appearance tonight was genuinely shocking. A 'performance' like that in a game like that is completely unacceptable.
You've got wonder what on earth was going through Kompany's mind bringing him on, especially at that stage of the game.
You've got wonder what on earth was going through Kompany's mind bringing him on, especially at that stage of the game.
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No it won’t. Supporting them will improve nothing, least of all our prospects.what_no_pies wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:03 amHe was the wrong sub for those circumstances tonight but folk writing him off were on Fosters case not that long ago. Supporting them come rain or shine will improve our prospects and your outlook.
I agree he was the wrong sub, but it isn’t the first time this season that subs have cost us.
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His total lack of commitment is really really worrying. This isn't a player we need for the battle we have ahead. I think even VK will have had enough after that.
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I think it was Tresor who gave the ball away for the goal, then Larsen jogs out to close down the cross and stands there just allows him to cross it. Pathetic
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I’d seriously be looking to move him out this window, either or loan or for whatever we can recover in a permanent transfer.
His stats in the Belgian league are irrelevant; he’s not playing there anymore. In this League he is bone idle, ineffective and gutless. Lovely touch, awful end product. He’s the last player I’d have thrown on to protect a 1-0 lead against Luton (cheers, VK) but once he was on he should have given everything to protect that lead. He actually gave nothing. A complete bottle job.
If he wants to swan about like a Wish version of Ronaldinho let him do it somewhere else.
His stats in the Belgian league are irrelevant; he’s not playing there anymore. In this League he is bone idle, ineffective and gutless. Lovely touch, awful end product. He’s the last player I’d have thrown on to protect a 1-0 lead against Luton (cheers, VK) but once he was on he should have given everything to protect that lead. He actually gave nothing. A complete bottle job.
If he wants to swan about like a Wish version of Ronaldinho let him do it somewhere else.
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You/they can do what you like but if that's spew negativity and abuse towards them then you're not supporting them, which is what I said.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:17 amDo fans not have the right to voice frustration when it looks like a player isn’t interested and backs out of putting a foot in
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Two scenarios.
1. Everyone roars the team on and offers unwavering encouragement.
2. Everyone moans and groans at everything that's less than good and barely acknowleges the positives.
Number 1 improves our prospects massively over number 2. To a lesser degree each and every moan and groan has a detremental effect whereas every offer of actual support is beneficial.
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I have been busy finding excuses for him since October now.
He needs time to settle in.
He needs to gel with his team-mates.
He needs to get up-to-speed with the Premier League.
He needs to be given a free role.
And the breakout performance has always been “next week”. Let’s judge him “next week”
I was delighted when we signed him. Tonight patience finally ran out.
He doesn’t look like he wants to be here. My guess is he’ll be one of the first off the ship if/when we go.
He has the impact of Danny Drinkwater combined with the commitment of Wout Weghorst.
Put it down as a learning. Put it down as a bit of a gamble. Or put it down as an absolute disaster of a signing.
I’m not waiting for next week any longer. He shouldn’t be featuring again.
He needs time to settle in.
He needs to gel with his team-mates.
He needs to get up-to-speed with the Premier League.
He needs to be given a free role.
And the breakout performance has always been “next week”. Let’s judge him “next week”
I was delighted when we signed him. Tonight patience finally ran out.
He doesn’t look like he wants to be here. My guess is he’ll be one of the first off the ship if/when we go.
He has the impact of Danny Drinkwater combined with the commitment of Wout Weghorst.
Put it down as a learning. Put it down as a bit of a gamble. Or put it down as an absolute disaster of a signing.
I’m not waiting for next week any longer. He shouldn’t be featuring again.
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not going to lie, he's a serious disappointment
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Weggy was at least committed whilst on the pitch!ChristheViking wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:24 amI have been busy finding excuses for him since October now.
He needs time to settle in.
He needs to gel with his team-mates.
He needs to get up-to-speed with the Premier League.
He needs to be given a free role.
And the breakout performance has always been “next week”. Let’s judge him “next week”
I was delighted when we signed him. Tonight patience finally ran out.
He doesn’t look like he wants to be here. My guess is he’ll be one of the first off the ship if/when we go.
He has the impact of Danny Drinkwater combined with the commitment of Wout Weghorst.
Put it down as a learning. Put it down as a bit of a gamble. Or put it down as an absolute disaster of a signing.
I’m not waiting for next week any longer. He shouldn’t be featuring again.
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Kompany at fault for bringing Tresor on. As for Tresor, I have to agree with the majority here, he's been given plenty of opportunity now and looks nowhere near Premier league level.
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Not his fault the PL invents new rules every year.
You guys are funny.
He should be starting over that marathon runner on the right. Odobert deserves to be starting. JBG I can only understand when we play against a way better side. Against Luton he's useless.
You guys are funny.
He should be starting over that marathon runner on the right. Odobert deserves to be starting. JBG I can only understand when we play against a way better side. Against Luton he's useless.
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What rule specifies a lack of effort is required?Anthonini wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:02 amNot his fault the PL invents new rules every year.
You guys are funny.
He should be starting over that marathon runner on the right. Odobert deserves to be starting. JBG I can only understand when we play against a way better side. Against Luton he's useless.
Even if the foul is given on Trafford it was still a terrible cameo.
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Benson and Zaroury must wonder what is going on when they see Tresor and Larsen come on before them now they have both been treated very badly in my eyes and need to move on if Vincent isn't going to play them ..
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Trafford played a perfect game. Only thing terrible here is the referee and VAR.
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I think you might be the only man on the planet that thinks he should start, I’d not even have him anywhere near the match day squad, never mind starting a game.Anthonini wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:02 amNot his fault the PL invents new rules every year.
You guys are funny.
He should be starting over that marathon runner on the right. Odobert deserves to be starting. JBG I can only understand when we play against a way better side. Against Luton he's useless.