Corruption? Ineptitude? Or anti-Burnley?

[ClaretinJapan]

Possibly a bit of all 3. Switched it off with 5 to go against Luton, just knew it was coming and would probably be dodgy or a howler.

[RammyClaret61]

Would this be the FA’s ideal 20 team EPL?


Liverpool
Manchester City
Aston Villa
Arsenal
Tottenham
West Ham
Southampton
Chelsea
Manchester United
Newcastle
Wolves
Sunderland
Swansea
Fulham
Nottingham Forest
Leicester City
Everton
Leeds United
Ipswich or Norwich
Bristol City

[ClaretinJapan]

What criteria are you speculating they might have for a club to be an ideal member?

[Rick_Muller]

What criteria are you speculating they might have for a club to be an ideal member?

Potential for revenue generation

[timshorts]

Would this be the FA’s ideal 20 team EPL?


Liverpool
Manchester City
Aston Villa
Arsenal
Tottenham
West Ham
Southampton
Chelsea
Manchester United
Newcastle
Wolves
Sunderland
Swansea
Fulham
Nottingham Forest
Leicester City
Everton
Leeds United
Ipswich or Norwich
Bristol City

If you are allowed either/or options, then you'd probably be looking at
Cardiff or swansea
Rather than Swansea which is a smaller city and catchment area.
In years gone by not too long ago, this list would also have included Sheffield Wednesday, Derby and another Birmingham team, and binned Southampton, Fulham and wolves, but I suppose keeping a mix of clubs to go up and down helps.
Probably the Liverpool and man u owners would have picked celtic and rangers long before looking at Bristol city, too.

[Spijed]

I do believe there's corruption in the Prem. Money talks big time, big brands bring in the money from worldwide viewership leading to TV rights revenue, merchandise, et cetera. And certain clubs are deemed big brands or bigger potential brands. City clubs naturally. The PL leadership would absolutely prefer to ditch Burnley, Luton, probably Bournemouth despite being southern coast, and possible one or two of the 'lesser' London sides like Brentford, for a Leeds to get that 'historic brand', a Bristol City to get a Southwest city base in the Prem, and an Ipswich or Norwich to provide an east coast city club. Naturally Leicester back in the fold too.

Absolutely think one day there'll be major corruption uncovered, it happened multiple times in Serie A which was worth far, far less money. This is a league with all kinds of morally and ethically questionable owners from all over the place propping sides up, the idea they'd suddenly be all above board and play by the rules because of football is naive.

That said don't think that's behind yesterday's decision, because Luton are a smaller brand than we are by far. Also because the decision itself is a proper 50-50, Trafford's exceptionally weak in everything he does, Adebayo turns his back to him but DOESN"T look at him (whatever Kompany says) and is static at the point of impact, it's Trafford going into him not the reverse. If that's at the other end I'm fuming if it's disallowed. It's one where yeah, a big side, City, United, etc. they get the benefit either way- if it's their keeper it's a foul, their striker it's not. When it's us vs Luton it's a case where it really depends how that ref interprets it as it could go either way under current rules, and VAR's not going to overturn a margin call whatever. If he gives a foul, VAR agrees no goal. If he waves it away, VAR agrees goal stands.

But surely if there was some corruption some journalist would have uncovered something before now?

And yet there's not been a single article published about any hint of corruption in football apart from a few gambling issues amongst players or one or two dodgy owners.

[taio]

No corruption, just incompetence

[Foulthrow]

I wonder if viewing figures for MOTD, post match analysis programmes, podcasts, vlogs, ref watch etc go up or down after another VAR ‘controversy’?

I’m sure the people who control the game - the media - are more than happy with the introduction of VAR.

They need it now, more than ever. Especially as the game is becoming less interesting to your casual fan (how many times has the title NOT gone to City recently?) and the younger generation don’t watch football in the way we do.

VAR helps to keep viewers, this drives revenue and brings in more money. That’s the conspiracy rather than some desire to see Burnley relegated.

[timshorts]

And on the main topic:
1. Most people posting on here are not the typical armchair fan that is presently the main funding source of revenue.
2. To the question of whether that goal would be allowed at Anfield, then it would probably depend on who scored it. If it was Liverpool then no. We'd have had var calling the ref to the monitor to look at foul play, and then some of the angles shown where the scouser was fouled, following which the ref gives a free kick. If man u/spurs has scored it then probably the same result as Friday. This allows for the ref and the VAR people to only need make half a decision, so blame can be shared and suddenly it looks OK. They all need only a partial bias for big red clubs, coupled with a partial degree of ineptitude. It's similar to racism. They aren't racists, but there are some things that they do that they don't realise that they are doing when they do it.
3. For the main part, we are where we are because our teams have no balance. We are trying to play like all those (boring as ****) Spanish international teams of a decade or so ago - but even they had a couple of thugs that could add a bit of steel and determination to the team. We ought to have three or four Ben mee characters but have none. AIt looks great when the other side are worse than you, but none of the other sides in the Premier league are worse than us. Some are a lot better and some are about the same.
4. The weather is cold. It rains all the time. Why should we want further expansion of var so that we can sit about for an extra 5 chilling minutes at the ground doing nothing each half? It's annoying enough in September. Half time in Scotland is still 5 minutes less too. I'm fairly sure that the glazers etc are hoping that a short ad for a betting firm can be slotted in during a var break, which would then automatically mean that var get 90 seconds to look at everything, which would be so much better as they'd then get more decisions "right". No, I'd rather watch lower division football, thank you.

[Firthy]

As much as I dislike him, Paul Merson hit the nail on head. VAR shot itself in the foot again. They really need to get it sorted before it totally ruins football to the point that it starts losing it's fan base.

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