Where was Berge

[alwaysaclaret]

Has anything been reported re Berge on Friday, we all know why Taylor and beyer were missing, but where was Berge. If not injured, big questions should be asked because against a team like Luton, should have been one of the first on team sheet.

[Ric_C]

he can't help being ill mate

[Clive 1960]

Apparently Berg was ill..

[alwaysaclaret]

he can't help being ill mate

With what though, is he injured, is he ill. That's my point, to leave everyone wondering why he wasn't in the squad is just daft, surely kompany should surely state that he was or wasn't available.

[Burnley Ace]

With what though, is he injured, is he ill. That's my point, to leave everyone wondering why he wasn't in the squad is just daft, surely kompany should surely state that he was or wasn't available.

Do t think there is an obligation on the club to announce in a press conference details of an employee’s personal health or to give the opposition information about the potential line up.

[ElectroClaret]

.... surely kompany should surely state that he was or wasn't available.

His name not appearing anywhere on the team sheet would indicate to the vast majority of people that he wasn't available.

[taio]

The should disclose details to stop people making **** up!

[Cheshireclaret]

If a member of my team at work calls to say he won’t be in the office because he’s ill and / or needs to go to the doctor, I don’t ask him the precise details of his illness because they’re adults, I trust them and it may well be a delicate matter.

Now I’ve no doubt within a football club, the finer details are discussed with a view to recovery, they are elite sportsmen, but why on earth do they need to tell us what somebody is ill with? What business is it of ours? He was ill. End of story.

The perceived ‘ownership’ of football players by fans astounds me at times.

[JohnMac]

I missed the game on Friday. In the morning I was fine and looking forward to it but by 4pm I was flattened by a tummy bug, as at this morning I have lost nearly 11lbs.

There are a lot of things can go wrong without warning so maybe Berge was a victim of similar circumstances.

[AfloatinClaret]

Don't think there is an obligation on the club to announce in a press conference details of an employee’s personal health...

In fact probably just the opposite; without the player's expressed consent I would expect the club would be in bother if they did publicise such private information.

[Claret Till I Die]

I missed the game on Friday. In the morning I was fine and looking forward to it but by 4pm I was flattened by a tummy bug, as at this morning I have lost nearly 11lbs

Any chance you can pass it onto me to get rid of my Christmas lbs....?

[JohnMac]

Any chance you can pass it onto me to get rid of my Christmas lbs....?

I could Bankrupt Weightwatchers

[wilks_bfc]

If a member of my team at work calls to say he won’t be in the office because he’s ill and / or needs to go to the doctor, I don’t ask him the precise details of his illness because they’re adults, I trust them and it may well be a delicate matter.

Now I’ve no doubt within a football club, the finer details are discussed with a view to recovery, they are elite sportsmen, but why on earth do they need to tell us what somebody is ill with? What business is it of ours? He was ill. End of story.

The perceived ‘ownership’ of football players by fans astounds me at times.

And even if they did give you precise details, you wouldn’t then tell them to your customer/service user

[mkmel]

I missed the game on Friday. In the morning I was fine and looking forward to it but by 4pm I was flattened by a tummy bug, as at this morning I have lost nearly 11lbs.

There are a lot of things can go wrong without warning so maybe Berge was a victim of similar circumstances.

So that's why you weren't in the playing squad on Friday night

[IWOODLOVETT]

Just a thought - we have had 4 red card’s Zaroury, Foster, Roberts and Berge. All four served their time but went missing immediately afterwards for “various reasons”. Maybe there is some form of club discipline in place ??

[dougcollins]

Just a thought - we have had 4 red card’s Zaroury, Foster, Roberts and Berge. All four served their time but went missing immediately afterwards for “various reasons”. Maybe there is some form of club discipline in place ??

I also started to wonder if that was more than co-incidence, but in this case we would be definitely cutting off our nose.

[Swizzlestick]

Why on earth would we drop our better players for crucial games? Especially when a couple of those cards were highly debatable.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

He was ill along with a few others by sound of it.

[bfcjg]

That ref made me feel sick.

[warksclaret]

Just a thought - we have had 4 red card’s Zaroury, Foster, Roberts and Berge. All four served their time but went missing immediately afterwards for “various reasons”. Maybe there is some form of club discipline in place ??

Exactly what I was thinking. I am guessing but suspect VK can be quite quite retaliatory if he feels he has been let down, or if you cross him.None of us expect to see a medical report or scans but I feel the club is so hush-hush and its hard to know who is ill, injured or out of favour. I listen to all the PL managers press meetings prior to their games and in just about all of them you get something relevant to players who are unlikely to play ie he got a knock; or he developed a bug overnight;or he is not quite match fit;or he is still recovering from his earlier injury. Ekdal is a good example where we had no information for his absence then out of the blue starts last Friday. Obefemi is a real unknown,to the extent why don't we just move him on. Then we have the vagueness over players like Benson, Zarroury, Cork and a few more then they resurface. I appreciate the need to protect players and recall the irresponsible statement of Hull City and Steve Bruce when Austin failed a medical there, but we are just about the least transparent club in the PL when it comes to giving a brief resume of a players fitness or health, or why they are suddenly unavailable.

[Elizabeth]

Just a thought - we have had 4 red card’s Zaroury, Foster, Roberts and Berge. All four served their time but went missing immediately afterwards for “various reasons”. Maybe there is some form of club discipline in place ??

I suppose that's called a conspiracy theory

[Bordeauxclaret]

The most ridiculous suspension we got last season was on the back of Maatsen’s red card against Blackpool.
Didn’t stop him coming straight back in.

It would be a really weird thing to punish yourself twice.

[ClaretTony]

Just a thought - we have had 4 red card’s Zaroury, Foster, Roberts and Berge. All four served their time but went missing immediately afterwards for “various reasons”. Maybe there is some form of club discipline in place ??

Foster came straight back in at Luton. Roberts was a regular until his red card though but strangely hasn’t started a league game since.

Nothing said by the club on Berge as far as I know but I’ve read that he was ill. I knew that Beyer, Delcroix & Taylor were all out injured and I believe Redmond is too. No idea about Ramsey.

[JohnMac]

So that's why you weren't in the playing squad on Friday night

I had another 'minor accident' this morning near Gawthorpe when walking the doggie!

[ClaretLoup]

This is the "Team News " given out on Friday on the club web site

"Defender Charlie Taylor and forward Lyle Foster were both forced off in the FA Cup trip to Tottenham last weekend. Jordan Beyer missed the trip to London with an injury picked up at Villa Park in the previous league fixture. Midfielder Sander Berge returns to the squad after serving his one-match suspension at Spurs with the red card picked up against Villa. "

[Nori1958]

This is the "Team News " given out on Friday on the club web site

"Defender Charlie Taylor and forward Lyle Foster were both forced off in the FA Cup trip to Tottenham last weekend. Jordan Beyer missed the trip to London with an injury picked up at Villa Park in the previous league fixture. Midfielder Sander Berge returns to the squad after serving his one-match suspension at Spurs with the red card picked up against Villa. "

Perhaps he became ill after that was released?

[ClaretTony]

This is the "Team News " given out on Friday on the club web site

"Defender Charlie Taylor and forward Lyle Foster were both forced off in the FA Cup trip to Tottenham last weekend. Jordan Beyer missed the trip to London with an injury picked up at Villa Park in the previous league fixture. Midfielder Sander Berge returns to the squad after serving his one-match suspension at Spurs with the red card picked up against Villa. "

That’s just about as big a waste of time as it could be.

[Swizzlestick]

If he was ill, that can develop quite suddenly - maybe he was fine Thursday night and he took ill on the day? I dunno. Anyway, it’s a shame, because we missed him massively.

[alwaysaclaret]

That’s just about as big a waste of time as it could be.

Agree, but furthermore still nothing in the press anywhere or on the club website or at least not that I've seen, so are people to believe now that he was fit to play, because if so is yet another issue.

[Nori1958]

Agree, but furthermore still nothing in the press anywhere or on the club website or at least not that I've seen, so are people to believe now that he was fit to play, because if so is yet another issue.

I don't think anyone believes he was fit to play. Local reporters said he was ill.
Players are now off on their break so don't be expecting any more news soon

[ClaretTony]

Agree, but furthermore still nothing in the press anywhere or on the club website or at least not that I've seen, so are people to believe now that he was fit to play, because if so is yet another issue.

We just have to accept that good and correct information is no longer given to supporters

[alwaysaclaret]

We just have to accept that good and correct information is no longer given to supporters

Would be good for the club to clear this up, to put an end to the speculation, all getting rather tedious.

[daveisaclaret]

Doesn't really need to be any speculation as we know he was ill.

[Nori1958]

Would be good for the club to clear this up, to put an end to the speculation, all getting rather tedious.

Only on here

[ClaretTony]

Would be good for the club to clear this up, to put an end to the speculation, all getting rather tedious.

They constantly put out incorrect information which is worse than no information at all. Have to say I found it amusing when I got down there on Friday to see an LED advertising the game for Monday 15th Jan.

[Nori1958]

We just have to accept that good and correct information is no longer given to supporters

Been like this for years, especially under dyche where injuries are concerned, and for various reasons quite correctly. Like dyche used to say.. It's the 1% that makes the difference... If we don't know, neither do the opposition

[CoolClaret]

In the 110 club...

[Enola Gay]

Clear what up? The club have said he was ill so he didn't play, end of story.

If people want to make up easily disprovable cobblers like players being dropped for getting sent off or whine because the club aren't uploading full medical records on the official website that's their problem.

As said above, some people's sense of entitlement really is hilarious.

[ClaretTony]

Clear what up? The club have said he was ill so he didn't play, end of story.

I wasn’t aware anything had been said by the club

[alwaysaclaret]

Only on here

Really, lots round me on Friday were asking the same question.

[Nori1958]

Really, lots round me on Friday were asking the same question.

As were we, but since then, probably 10 minutes into the game we found out why. I don't see it being spoken about other than here.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Clear what up? The club have said he was ill so he didn't play, end of story.

If people want to make up easily disprovable cobblers like players being dropped for getting sent off or whine because the club aren't uploading full medical records on the official website that's their problem.

As said above, some people's sense of entitlement really is hilarious.

It’s grasped at by some nowadays. Any level of the club is fair game for criticism.

[Enola Gay]

I wasn’t aware anything had been said by the club

Sorry, thought they had. I heard it mentioned a few places on Friday and someone above said local journalists were reporting it.

The rest of my post still stands though; even if it wasn't disproved by suspended players instantly returning in the past, the idea that Kompany would further deprive himself of them just to prove a point is absolute tinfoil hat stuff.

[Devils_Advocate]

Kompany (in a post match press conference) has said himself that Berge was ill so Im not sure whats left to clear up

[ClaretTony]

Sorry, thought they had. I heard it mentioned a few places on Friday and someone above said local journalists were reporting it.

The rest of my post still stands though; even if it wasn't disproved by suspended players instantly returning in the past, the idea that Kompany would further deprive himself of them just to prove a point is absolute tinfoil hat stuff.

Totally agree with you on that

[alwaysaclaret]

Kompany (in a post match press conference) has said himself that Berge was ill so Im not sure whats left to clear up

Didn't hear that until I asked the question on this board, which is why I originally posted.

[bfcjg]

Shame he was ill, we really missed him and would have won with him playing.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Agree, but furthermore still nothing in the press anywhere or on the club website or at least not that I've seen, so are people to believe now that he was fit to play, because if so is yet another issue.

I think it is safe to say there isn't a normal person who thought at any stage Berge was just left out the squad on Friday when he was fit to play

[alwaysaclaret]

I think it is safe to say there isn't a normal person who thought at any stage Berge was just left out the squad on Friday when he was fit to play

Lot's round me assumed he was injured, but were simply left wondering, I understand there was some reports he was ill, but nothing official, and still don't think there's anything official.

[Rileybobs]

I was hoping to wake up this morning to an email from the club clearing this up but it’s 9.20 and still nothing.