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Roma sack Mourinho

Post by The Hung Juror » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:49 am

Not really a surprise, Roma sitting 9th in the league, and after just losing the Rome derby.

Newcastle? The Saudis may be looking for a big name manager shortly?

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:51 am

He has made a few quid over the years from being sacked

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:57 am

Complete chancer ,a modern day Harry Rednap
Amassing a fortune by bring binned
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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by South West Claret. » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:09 am

A most obnoxious individual if ever there was one

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Shaggy » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:21 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:57 am
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He’s not a chancer. Look at the trophies he has won during his career.
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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by claret2018 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:34 am

He’s a good manager for short periods. He tends to go into a club who are at a low ebb, turn them round, win a trophy and then it goes stale very quickly after that.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by AlargeClaret » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:35 am

But suprised with this one , he’d won the conference, got them to Europa final , and flying in this yrs Europa and were only couple points off top 4 week or so back . He’s done wonders tbf with the budget he’s had . I’d imagine it’s more Jose falling out with them /throwing his toys out ? Unless he’s been offered something big and juicy ?
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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:46 am

Shaggy wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:21 am
He’s not a chancer. Look at the trophies he has won during his career.
Chancer must be a Burnley buzz word.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by boyyanno » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:52 am

He's a good manager is Mourinho. I don't think his ego helps him stay at a club for long but his record speaks for itself.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Swizzlestick » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:54 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:57 am
Complete chancer ,a modern day Harry Rednap
Amassing a fortune by bring binned
Oh, come on.

You can not like him as a personality, but his honours list speaks for itself.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Goliath » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:59 am

I get the feeling hes lost a lot of the passion and determination which took him to the top.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by alwaysaclaret » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:01 am

AlargeClaret wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:35 am
But suprised with this one , he’d won the conference, got them to Europa final , and flying in this yrs Europa and were only couple points off top 4 week or so back . He’s done wonders tbf with the budget he’s had . I’d imagine it’s more Jose falling out with them /throwing his toys out ? Unless he’s been offered something big and juicy ?
Turf Moor may be 🤣
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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by claptrappers_union » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:39 am

Chancer


Porto

Primeira Liga: 2002–03, 2003–04
Taça de Portugal: 2002–03
Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira: 2003
UEFA Champions League: 2003–04
UEFA Cup: 2002–03

Chelsea

Premier League: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2014–15
FA Cup: 2006–07
Football League Cup: 2004–05, 2006–07, 2014–15
FA Community Shield: 2005

Inter Milan

Serie A: 2008–09, 2009–10
Coppa Italia: 2009–10
Supercoppa Italiana: 2008
UEFA Champions League: 2009–10

Real Madrid

La Liga: 2011–12
Copa del Rey: 2010–11
Supercopa de España: 2012

Manchester United

EFL Cup: 2016–17
FA Community Shield: 2016
UEFA Europa League: 2016–17

Roma

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Individual

Onze d'Or Coach of the Year: 2005
FIFA World Coach of the Year: 2005, 2010, 2012
IFFHS World's Best Coach of the 21st Century: 2001–2020
Premier League Manager of the Season: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2014–15
Premier League Manager of the Month: November 2004, January 2005, March 2007, November 2020
Serie A Coach of the Year: 2008–09, 2009–10
Serie A Coach of the Month: August 2022
Panchina d'Oro: 2009–10
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World Soccer Magazine World Manager of the Year: 2004, 2005, 2010
World Soccer 3rd Greatest Manager of All Time: 2013
ESPN 9th Greatest Manager of All time: 2013
France Football 13th Greatest Manager of All time: 2019
European Coach of the Year – Alf Ramsey Award: 2010
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Coach Award: 2005
La Gazzetta dello Sport Man of the Year: 2010
International Sports Press Association Best Manager in the World: 2010
Prémio Prestígio Fernando Soromenho: 2012
Football Extravaganza's League of Legends: 2011
Globe Soccer Awards Best Coach of the Year: 2012
Globe Soccer Awards Best Media Attraction in Football: 2012
Portuguese Coach of the Century: 2015
PFA Portuguese Manager of the Year: 2017
LMA Performances of the Week: 2 December 2017 (Arsenal 1–3 Man.Utd), 7 April 2018 (Man.City 2–3 Man.Utd)
Italian Football Hall of Fame: 2022

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Grand Officer of the Order of Prince Henry
Doctor Honoris causa – for his accomplishments in football from Lisbon Technical University

Records

Guinness World Records

Former record holder for most points achieved in a Premier League season (95 points)
Youngest manager to reach 100 Champions League games (49 years 12 days)
Most games unbeaten at home in the Premier League (77)
Fewest goals conceded in a Premier League season (15 goals)
Longest football unbeaten home run by a manager (9 years)

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Most Champions League titles with different clubs (two)

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:45 am

Wow. :o
Must admit, that's some c.v.

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Post by Kilson810 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:51 am

Won Roma's only European cup, so he will be a legend there forever.

Only club he's failed to win something with was Spurs and they sacked him the day before they bottled a cup final.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:39 am

His record speaks for itself but he's a manager who can go into a club with good players and win things. He's not one to build a squad and I doubt he actually improves teams very much over time.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:54 am

One of the very best

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:05 pm

He’ll be after the Newcastle job.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:06 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:05 pm
He’ll be after the Newcastle job.

He seems perfect for the England job, him and the FA could work well together :D

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by IanMcL » Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:11 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:39 am
His record speaks for itself but he's a manager who can go into a club with good players and win things. He's not one to build a squad and I doubt he actually improves teams very much over time.
He bought players into Chelsea, early on, that transformed the team and won the league.

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Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:12 pm

Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up at Newcastle.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:23 pm

Would be delighted to have him back in the Prem.

He’s a character and record is outstanding.

Chelsea fans begging for him back apparently.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:05 pm

Would love to see him and Klopp going toe to toe on the touchline. :mrgreen:

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Post by Westleigh » Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:43 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:39 am
His record speaks for itself but he's a manager who can go into a club with good players and win things. He's not one to build a squad and I doubt he actually improves teams very much over time.
Can’t imagine how he’d cope down at the Turf,but would be interesting.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:54 pm

South West Claret. wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:09 am
A most obnoxious individual if ever there was one
This

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:28 pm

He’s nowhere near as obnoxious as Klopp or Arteta.
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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by ecc » Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:15 pm

He's a mixed bag. A lot of the time I think his arrogance is pretence but then when you read about him running after a referee in a car park because he robbed him of a title it's just not on.

He always had this ambition/obsession with winning the CL with three clubs. It caused him his downfall IMO.

Still surprised Roma have sacked him. De Rossi is a pure Roman and Roma man. I hope it works for him.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by JR1882 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:34 pm

Will be a very controversial call, the De Rossi appointment strikes me as something to halt a public outcry. Jose has been revered by the fan base there as still is. They have sold out 40+ home games in succession, it was never sold out pre-Jose, he has galvanised that fan base (in his own way!).

First European trophy for them, followed by another Euro final, not really firing in the league but they have much less of a budget than some of the big boys in that league, and not helped by Fiorentina and Bologna having stellar seasons above them either.

He does what he does, wins trophies and makes headlines, it has a shelf life however - this was his much maligned “third season” where things implode historically.

Second place finish and a Europa league win with a United team that had little investment at that stage - they would kill for that now.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Cooclaret » Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:53 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:57 am
Complete chancer ,a modern day Harry Rednap
Amassing a fortune by bring binned
This has to be the worst take on this platform in the last two days!

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by MDWat » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:08 pm

Superb manager. A tosser one day, brilliant the next. Tends to be the way for a lot of the elite.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by DCWat » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:29 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:28 pm
He’s nowhere near as obnoxious as Klopp or Arteta.
I liked Klopp when he first came to England. He’s got progressively worse, season upon season. To the point now that he’s right at the top of the dick head pile (agree on Arteta too).

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:39 am
His record speaks for itself but he's a manager who can go into a club with good players and win things. He's not one to build a squad and I doubt he actually improves teams very much over time.
In today's football it's not very often that can be evidenced because you simply don't get the time. Ever since Chelsea I can't recall him staying about long enough anywhere to build anything. From about late may 2016 he was at Manchester United & was out of work for nearly a year before joining spurs did over a year there, maybe he could have built something at roma but I think they was hindered with FFP during his tenure.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Dyched » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:24 pm

His first Chelsea team was probably the most underrated in the history if football. Conceding just 15 goals one year in the PL. If it wasn’t for the robbery against Barcelona, they’d probably have won the CL as well. Called finishing 2nd with Man U his greatest ever achievement, and you can’t really argue against that given what they did before and after he left.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by AlargeClaret » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:58 pm

Easy to forget he got Utd a League cup and Europa league double in his first season . Champs league , 2nd in prem and an fa cup final in his 2nd. To think of the ragged mess Man Utd are now

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by scamander » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:10 am

Very much a manager of his day, incredible in his younger career but seems to have lost it. One of those managers who the players loved but also could fall out with quickly.

To use a wrestling term he played the heel role well, I sense he'd be a genuinely nice guy to have a drink with. He wasn't a player and his background story is very interesting.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Sleeping Cat » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:04 am

He has a certain style, and i think that determines if you like/ or dislike him but he did win Roma's first trophy in over 1 years and was a penalty shootout from winning them their 2nd last season in the Europa League final.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:22 am

He’s clearly been a good manager with the trophies he’s won.
His problem is people can’t stand him for more than a couple of years.
He always takes the same route, starts off happy and smiley and ends up moody and paranoid.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:24 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:22 am
He’s clearly been a good manager with the trophies he’s won.
His problem is people can’t stand him for more than a couple of years.
He always takes the same route, starts off happy and smiley and ends up moody and paranoid.
Yes he seem to doesn’t he, a very strange makeup.

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Post by Big Vinny K » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:30 am

Sleeping Cat wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:04 am
He has a certain style, and i think that determines if you like/ or dislike him but he did win Roma's first trophy in over 1 years and was a penalty shootout from winning them their 2nd last season in the Europa League final.
But look at how he was backed and some of the players he brought in.
It’s the trail of destruction he leaves behind every club now too. Players on a fortune who are past it and the cost of getting rid of him and his coaches.
Invariably he will have fallen out with fans, the press and everyone else.
Then there will be the players he will have called out and blamed at some point.

Living on past reputation now but no doubt there will be another club stupid enough to appoint him.

There is no way a club as big as Roma especially with what they spent under Mourinho should be finishing where they have in the league…..winning one Europa cup when they should actually be competing in the Champions League is not compensation. Just as it’s not for United fans.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Sleeping Cat » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:59 am

And that is why he has been sacked. For the budget he commands you have to deliver champions league football by finishing in the top 3-4 in the league and he hasn't. I think his style suits knock out football more than weekly points based football and that is is less lucrative, so from a business position it become unsustainable over time. But from a football perspective 2 consecutive European tournament finals and winning one of them would be considered successful tenure by many.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:12 am

I wonder what he was like as a player that’s assuming that he did play the game professionally.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Jambounchained » Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:19 am

South West Claret. wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:12 am
I wonder what he was like as a player that’s assuming that he did play the game professionally.
He didn't I don't think.

Started as Bobby Robson's translator I believe.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:21 am

Ah that’s interesting as an anomaly.

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Re: Roma sack Mourinho

Post by Kilson810 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:24 am

The guy has delivered Roma's only European cup. I reckon his legacy is safe with their fan base.

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