Conscription

[CoolClaret]

Good luck finding somewhere safe when the East, far East and Africa unite against the West and democracy…

Is this for real? Lol

[Shaggy]

Spoiler: Shaggy has not spoken to many, if any, Americans about this.

Considering I work for an American company with lots of Americans that would be difficult to avoid them.

As you were.

Real people are for trump. The media plants and limp wristed
Academic types with no real life experience may not be.

[Lubanski]

The losses to both sides runs into hundreds of thousands, mostly via drones, infantry are not safe in trenches as drones hover above and drop devices directly into them. Understandably Ukraine has problems with recruiting, the same will be true in Russia. The war drums are beating im Europe even as the US cuts funding,who knows where things will end.

[IanMcL]

Considering I work for an American company with lots of Americans that would be difficult to avoid them.

As you were.

Real people are for trump. The media plants and limp wristed
Academic types with no real life experience may not be.

Real people?
You mean the ones easily deceived.

[Shaggy]

Real people?
You mean the ones easily deceived.

The ones who are easily deceived are the more liberal in society. They fall for establishment propaganda all the time.

Real people who have had to look after themselves/and family and who work in uncensored ( ordinary) environments and socialise in normal places with normal people.

For example a student has yet to properly experience life and all it’s struggles therefore their views ( which are manipulated by education establishments ) are based upon a saline environment. We all know that the theory and practice are 2 completely different beasts after all.

[CoolClaret]

The ones who are easily deceived are the more liberal in society. They fall for establishment propaganda all the time.

Real people who have had to look after themselves/and family and who work in uncensored ( ordinary) environments and socialise in normal places with normal people.

For example a student has yet to properly experience life and all it’s struggles therefore their views ( which are manipulated by education establishments ) are based upon a saline environment. We all know that the theory and practice are 2 completely different beasts after all.

I'm sure that your n=1 experience speaks for 330 mill Americans.

[Anonymous Claret]

I expected the many interesting posts from people giving their views on conscription, and I think it is silly that there are also posts which treat this as a genuine suggestion/possibility. I thought I had been pretty clear about it.

Fair enough!

I thought that you were a little ambiguous in your initial response but thanks very much for clearing it up

[elwaclaret]

The ones who are easily deceived are the more liberal in society. They fall for establishment propaganda all the time.

Real people who have had to look after themselves/and family and who work in uncensored ( ordinary) environments and socialise in normal places with normal people.

For example a student has yet to properly experience life and all it’s struggles therefore their views ( which are manipulated by education establishments ) are based upon a saline environment. We all know that the theory and practice are 2 completely different beasts after all.

You demonstrate that you know little to nothing about ‘academia’. Further education is a very different beast to Higher education - pupils are not fed information they are taught to go and find it, and discuss the implications. Most people in Higher education bring a wealth of life knowledge and experience with them. The average age of degree students is early twenties… Masters and over is thirties and older…

Universities are about the only environment where ANYTHING can be argued, and suggesting it is a ‘saline environment’ I really hope you are having a laugh.

[quoonbeatz]

Considering I work for an American company with lots of Americans that would be difficult to avoid them.

As you were.

Real people are for trump. The media plants and limp wristed
Academic types with no real life experience may not be.

I also spend about 75% of my day working with and talking to Americans. The statement above is bo11ocks.

[aggi]

Considering I work for an American company with lots of Americans that would be difficult to avoid them.

As you were.

Real people are for trump. The media plants and limp wristed
Academic types with no real life experience may not be.

Fair enough. I guess I'll just have to tell my American clients we'll no longer be working for them as they are imaginary.

[brexit]

Switzerland

[elwaclaret]

Switzerland

Avoided the last war by being the world’s ask no questions bankers and no threat to ambition. The same policy used in this country has only exacerbated the problem… Britain is not a neutral power. Although it was dragged kicking and screaming into a democracy by revolts in America and France, Parliament was the birthplace of modern democracy and as such is almost as high on the list of targets for totalitarian regimes as it ever was.

[brexit]

Avoided the last war by being the world’s ask no questions bankers and no threat to ambition. The same policy used in this country has only exacerbated the problem… Britain is not a neutral power. Although it was dragged kicking and screaming into a democracy by revolts in America and France, Parliament was the birthplace of modern democracy and as such is almost as high on the list of targets for totalitarian regimes as it ever was.

Probably worth you reading some Nozick, Hayek and Hoppe.

[elwaclaret]

Probably worth you reading some Nozick, Hayek and Hoppe.

From my (admittedly sparse knowledge) of these theories they are built from a premise similar to that employed by Paine, Marx and many others since the mid eighteenth century onward. Sadly they tend not to concentrate on the abuse such models are open to… ‘human nature’ of the power grab… true communism destroyed by Bolshevism, fascism by Franco, Hitler, Mussolini and others…

Dictators bend history to their will ever bit as much as imperialists, just look at Putin’s claim s for Russia… he harks back to Peter the Great… imperialism, not communism. China is different and the West has to take responsibility for the antagonism that has led to China’s current position in the world… China approached the West to support the Great a leap forward and ended up targeted by the west from Truman’s time.

Theories deal with ideals and give little account for hundreds of years of distrust and antagonism built (in large part) from historical injustices, perceived and/or actual.

[JohnMcGreal]

It's a nonsense story. If we're even close to a situation where this is required then we've all got much bigger problems to worry about. Although we probably won't have that long to worry about them.

[kentonclaret]

Switzerland

Cuckoo clocks

[South West Claret.]

Conscription and constipation, neither desirable situations I would think

[evensteadiereddie]

They'll pass in time...

[HahaYeah]

One might cure the other.

[lancastrian]

They were brave, they had a bigger pair on them collectively than most of the generations that followed no doubt, but unfortunately they were more easily led.

Cannot agree we were more easily led.
I was conscripted to do two years National Service in 1957 with the R A F. With six months in the U K and the rest of the time in East Africa. .At that time it was the Cold War and a threat from the Soviet Union(Russia again). The powers that be thought that a strengthened military might defer an invasion. You expected that you would be called up the alternative, prison would be much worse. It was a different era back in the fifties and in some cases it was better. One of the advantages if it could be called an advantage,the firm you were working for had to take you back after the two years.Would that happen today?

[ecc]

I hate the army and I hate the R.A.F.
I don't wanna go fighting in the tropical heat
I hate the civil service rules
I won't open a letter bomb for you

[Ptangyangkipperbang]

I hate the army and I hate the R.A.F.
I don't wanna go fighting in the tropical heat
I hate the civil service rules
I won't open a letter bomb for you

I'd rather make tea at the BBC

[elwaclaret]

It's a nonsense story. If we're even close to a situation where this is required then we've all got much bigger problems to worry about. Although we probably won't have that long to worry about them.

…. Because Britain has never been caught rubbishing warnings of impending World Wars, and ignored the need to prepare for the eventuality should it develop.

Except both of them, that is.

[JohnMcGreal]

…. Because Britain has never been caught rubbishing warnings of impending World Wars, and ignored the need to prepare for the eventuality should it develop.

Except both of them, that is.

That's true, however there is a major difference between the world we live in today and the world as it was before both of those conflicts.

If there is to be a third world war it will almost certainly involve several nuclear powers. If things have gone so far south then we're all finished anyway. It will just be a matter of time. Governments can conscript away, I suppose. It won't really matter.

[LoveCurryPies]

The next world war will be fought with drones, long range missiles and terminator-like robots. The days of face to face combat are largely gone.

Those conscripted won’t be the children of politicians, wealthy celebrities or people with connections. They will be working class kids from Burnley, Liverpool, Glasgow, Hull, Manchester….as it has always been.


The world is in an awful place. Madmen running the countries. So sad for our children!

[getbennyon]

The next world war will be fought with drones, long range missiles and terminator-like robots. The days of face to face combat are largely gone.

Those conscripted won’t be the children of politicians, wealthy celebrities or people with connections. They will be working class kids from Burnley, Liverpool, Glasgow, Hull, Manchester….as it has always been.


The world is in an awful place. Madmen running the countries. So sad for our children!

Bingo

[ClaretinJapan]

And I wonder if they'll bring back, National Service and the birch
And i wonder but I doubt if, they will ever bring back the Watney Cup.

[Dyched]

Fight so millions of middle aged self entitled white men can carry on their lives and destroying this country. Nah mate.

[Hipper]

The next world war will be fought with drones, long range missiles and terminator-like robots. The days of face to face combat are largely gone.

Those conscripted won’t be the children of politicians, wealthy celebrities or people with connections. They will be working class kids from Burnley, Liverpool, Glasgow, Hull, Manchester….as it has always been.


The world is in an awful place. Madmen running the countries. So sad for our children!

Where's your evidence for that?

Look at the two current wars, Ukraine, Israel. They both involve boots on the ground.

[TheFamilyCat]

I think we can all sleep a little sounder in our beds knowing this.

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Of course there's a teeny tiny chance he could be lying.

[Anonymous Claret]

I think we can all sleep a little sounder in our beds knowing this.


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Of course there's a teeny tiny chance he could be lying.

Sadly some people will fall for his lies as they always do. Johnson like his father before him, Prince Phillip, David Rockefeller, Bill Gates, and many many others who are more secretive with their views is a eugenicist who believes that there are far too many people on the planet. He doesn't mean people like him, he means people like you and me.

Boris Johnson Population Control

https://www.boris-johnson.com/2007/10/2 ... n-control/

Stanley Johnson

https://www.conservativehome.com/platfo ... olicy.html

Prince Phillip

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/81799 ... population

David Rockefeller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClqUcScwnn8

Bill Gates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtkfWaCzsas

[BradTee93]

I got told I'd fail a medical if I attempted to join the Army when I was younger due to having Scoliosis, if i wasn't fit then I ain't 'suddenly being fit' if the call ever came.

[bfcjg]

Fight so millions of middle aged self entitled white men can carry on their lives and destroying this country. Nah mate.

Have you seen the colour of the PM,home Secretary and other cabinet members ? I think your racist rant is ridiculous.