New ground

[ClaretsPadiham]

Has to be a priority in the next 5 years.

Either build on a new site or build on the current one, but it needs to be done.

I love the current location close to town etc but we need to get with the times. The Turf is very outdated, the 2 ancient stands and even the 2 modern ones are very old now coming up to 30 year old.

The facilities we have are **** poor for a Premierleague football
Club, the concourses are horrible dark small and the catering is still in the 90s. You get wet on the 2 newer stands and they are awful for atomosphere.

The CFS needs replacing soon anyway before there’s a serious accident, Suprised it passes health and safety checks to be honest.

A ground similar to Brentford just a bit bigger would be perfect, smallish stand where Bob Lord is to keep the view, a kop type stand where the CFS is and 2 bigger joined together stands, with facilitates fit for the year we live in. A tight little stadium close to the pitch to make the Turf a brilliant atmosphere, at the moment it’s a morgue and has been for years.

We have a top of the range training ground now it’s it’s time for a ground, would do our image a world of good.

People are too scared because they have memories of the Turf but to move forward as a club it’s going to have to happen one day.

The Pros outweigh the cons, yeah costs a lot of money and we would need a suitable site if we moved or find somewhere to play whilst it for re built but it would set our club up for the next 80 years.

[Burnley1989]

A new ground would bankrupt us very quickly, unless someone was prepared to buy us one, I just dont see a big sponsor clambering to buy us one anytime soon.

We do need one though, despite me liking our old shed.

[Westleigh]

Has to be a priority in the next 5 years.

Either build on a new site or build on the current one, but it needs to be done.

I love the current location close to town etc but we need to get with the times. The Turf is very outdated, the 2 ancient stands and even the 2 modern ones are very old now coming up to 30 year old.

The facilities we have are **** poor for a Premierleague football
Club, the concourses are horrible dark small and the catering is still in the 90s. You get wet on the 2 newer stands and they are awful for atomosphere.

The CFS needs replacing soon anyway before there’s a serious accident, Suprised it passes health and safety checks to be honest.

A ground similar to Brentford just a bit bigger would be perfect, smallish stand where Bob Lord is to keep the view, a kop type stand where the CFS is and 2 bigger joined together stands, with facilitates fit for the year we live in. A tight little stadium close to the pitch to make the Turf a brilliant atmosphere, at the moment it’s a morgue and has been for years.

We have a top of the range training ground now it’s it’s time for a ground, would do our image a world of good.

People are too scared because they have memories of the Turf but to move forward as a club it’s going to have to happen one day.

The Pros outweigh the cons, yeah costs a lot of money and we would need a suitable site if we moved or find somewhere to play whilst it for re built but it would set our club up for the next 80 years.

Have you got a magic money tree?

[ArmchairDetective]

We do need better facilities. I too am surprised that the CFS passes safety checks. But not a chance that happens.

[Pickles]

I'm not against it, if built on the current site. But that would be pretty much impossible and it wouldn't be possible at all without having to call it something like the Amazon Prime Powered By Verizon Megadome Thunder Arena...

[Kilson810]

New CFS stand should be a priority. Always thought they should make that all home fans with safe standing and then stick away fans in Jimmy Mac lower. Logistically it would be difficult with the club shop though.

[jrgbfc]

Agree about the two newer stands being cheap, badly built monstrosities. Think moving out of town would rip the heart out of the club though.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Given the price of everything in the UK at the moment, from houses to train tracks to restaurants to bread / milk - no way a new ground is even remotely viable, nor is it desirable given the Town To Turf spending and the benefits it brings local businesses. I’m not even convinced a new stand is. Although I do find it a constant joke the CFS is only allowed to be half full of home fans while the away fans pack it, something needs to be done there.

I could just about be convinced that buying out the cricket club is essential, with something being done on that footprint that allows that stand to be full and have an even better atmosphere, like it used to. The cricket club is important to the town, but lets be clear, it is nowhere near as important as the football club (they would need a new home of course).

[mybloodisclaret]

I don't want a new ground. The CFS is a priority now though. Ive been going in there since we were allowed back in and underneath it is dank at best.

[Quickenthetempo]

We built two new stands with grants to get rid of terracing.
We built the Bob Lord stand selling our best player Martin Dobson for 400k.

Not sure how the CF stand was financed.

How would we finance a new stand or ground?

[bfcjg]

The facilities we have are **** poor for a Premierleague football

I don't think that will be a concern much longer.

[Blatherwickstattoo]

It’s an absolute dump, poor layout, disjointed , Poor facilities, ancient stands , shocking food and drinks, yet we still love it

[Bullabill]

I just dont see a big sponsor clambering to buy us one anytime soon.

Clambering?
Climb or move in an awkward and laborious way, typically using both hands and feet.

[Andreshotboots]

Just won't happen. Another issue is it's not as if the land our current stadium is built in is worth masses and would have developers climbing over each other in desperation to buy it.

If the magic money tree was ever found, to solve the stay where we are issues whilst building, you could plan to rotate the pitch 90 degrees and construct half the stadium in the current JH stand car park without really causing issues for the current one( Spurs did this I think), then it would need to be a ground share for the remaining construction time.

I love the Turf and all about the area it's in etc, but I would have no reservations at all about moving to a new stadium out of town, but let's face it for the immediate future it's pie in the sky stuff.

There are some fantastic stadium's in league one and two, so I suppose we need to be careful of what we wish for.

[bfc8]

Just on the logistics forgetting the finances for now.

New build on TM site, prob 2 seasons elsewhere, say Preston. Could bfc buy up the cricket ground or would it have to be just current footprint.

New build elsewhere, which sites might be favoured.

[Cirrus_Minor]

Has April fools come early? If anything was to finish us off it would be all the arguing, finance issues and impossible planning of moving to a new ground.

[It Is What It Is]

Leave Turf Moor where it is....warts and all.
In my 70 years plus of being a Claret, every time I walk up the steps in the ground I can palbibly feel the history of our beloved club all around the ground.... remembering me and my dad witnessing games as English League title winners, European cup games, Inter City Fairs cup games etc.

[ClaretsPadiham]

Leave Turf Moor where it is....warts and all.
In my 70 years plus of being a Claret, every time I walk up the steps in the ground I can palbibly feel the history of our beloved club all around the ground.... remembering me and my dad witnessing games as English League title winners, European cup games, Inter City Fairs cup games etc.

This is exactly my point, history and personal memories have to end eventually, we can start making new memories with a new generation in a new ground.

[CoolClaret]

No.

[Blatherwickstattoo]

Some good points made. If you take away all your feelings and memories for the club and come in from an outsiders angle (like Alk) then you’ve got to say the ground is seriously out dated . Football is about keeping up with the competition on and off the field. I’m not for a ground change currently but it will happen at some point in time I’m sure .

[Blatherwickstattoo]

Also haven’t we bought land off the m65 junction for Padiham ? Pretty sure we did years ago. Be a perfect location this.

[JimmyRobbo]

No thanks.

I'd rather not have a soulless lump of concrete outside our town which is easier for away fans to attend than our own. Tyhere's a real possibility that it might be what we'd end up with.

[Blatherwickstattoo]

As much as I despise soulless bowl stadiums they sadly are more lucrative and this is what Alk will want I’m sure .

[jrgbfc]

I know they've done quite well on the pitch since moving grounds but I'm sure 90% of real West Ham fans would give anything to go back to Upton Park. Just going to the Olympic stadium once was enough for me.

[CoolClaret]

It would kill the club and the town.

Be an absolute disaster

[RVclaret]

If I became a billionaire overnight it would be one of the things I’d outlay some cash on for sure. Ideally it would be a complete regeneration of the current stadium but appreciate that would come with several challenges. The location is a huge part of Burnley FC and unless impossible to regenerate then it would need to remain there. Probably could be done one stand at a time across several years..

[bfc8]

Thinking about possible grounds for say 2 seasons while TM rebuilt.
Blackburn, Preston, Blackpool, Bolton come to mind.
Rivalries could remove Blackburn, the nearest.
The other 3, Bolton out of town with biggish car park could be a serious candidate.

[BigGaz]

We can't go on just touching the place up forevermore. At least 50% of the main stands needed flattening 10 years ago, never mind today.

Turf Moor is our home, and it can still be our home, but folk revelling in just how shite it is and not wanting to improve it are quite literally backwards.

It might be tricky financially now but it'll be a damn sight trickier if we're in the championship over the next ten - fifteen years when it flips from being 'something that would be nice to do' to 'its close to being condemned' and we have to half arse it (again) cause we've not got a pot to **** in.

[Spike]

We need to stay at Turf Moor we would lose a lot of fans if we move
Can’t see how we can afford to rebuild when all the current situation is already highly leveraged

[ŽižkovClaret]

Keep the Bob Lord, and make a 3 sided wraparound stand with commercial facilities etc and take the capacity up to circa 30k

[gandhisflipflop]

Knock TM down and build a 60,000 capacity stadium on townley…

[Nori1958]

We can't go on just touching the place up forevermore. At least 50% of the main stands needed flattening 10 years ago, never mind today.

Turf Moor is our home, and it can still be our home, but folk revelling in just how shite it is and not wanting to improve it are quite literally backwards.

It might be tricky financially now but it'll be a damn sight trickier if we're in the championship over the next ten - fifteen years when it flips from being 'something that would be nice to do' to 'its close to being condemned' and we have to half arse it (again) cause we've not got a pot to **** in.

Don't think calling people backward is a particularly good look

[ElectroClaret]

We can't go on just touching the place up forevermore. At least 50% of the main stands needed flattening 10 years ago, never mind today.

Turf Moor is our home, and it can still be our home, but folk revelling in just how shite it is and not wanting to improve it are quite literally backwards.

It might be tricky financially now but it'll be a damn sight trickier if we're in the championship over the next ten - fifteen years when it flips from being 'something that would be nice to do' to 'its close to being condemned' and we have to half arse it (again) cause we've not got a pot to **** in.

Some very good points there.

[Claretforever]

I know we’d never do it because to fully rebuild the ground today would cost £200m+ I’d imagine with material costs, and building on the same site is more expensive than a clear site because of demolition cost and complexities meaning it takes longer.

Rotating the ground 90°, as Andre mentioned above, would probably work if money was no object. For a bit of fun I was just looking to see if it would fit the current site. You could incorporate a fan zone/bar into one corner like Bristol City have done.

Anyway, the best we can hope for is a new Cricket Field stand in 30 years and a new roof on the Bob Lor which removed the pillars.

[chekhov]

Just won't happen. Another issue is it's not as if the land our current stadium is built in is worth masses and would have developers climbing over each other in desperation to buy it.

Maybe even clambering over each other…

[Quickenthetempo]

Some good points made. If you take away all your feelings and memories for the club and come in from an outsiders angle (like Alk)

I would walk away from the club as would plenty of others.
It's only feelings for the club and perhaps routine that keep us coming back.
Nobody gets value from modern day football.

[ElectroClaret]

Certainly the CFS needs to go.

[Tricky Trevor]

I’d love to see them buy out the cricket club, they can build a ground on Towneley it is big enough. Build a new 2 or 3 tier stand with car parking or retail outlets behind it.
A new stadium is way out of our league and as has happened at every other club would set the side back years.

[forzagranata]

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[Claret86]

Absolutely no chance. Go to a match at whatever Boltons ground is called for that experience. The only way we could finance something like this is to build an out of town ground next to the M65 and hold concerts there and anything else we could think of to finance it. Get an American insurance company to name it as well. It would ruin the matchday experience and be an embarrassment

[South West Claret.]

A new ground, are you joking.

Turf Moor must be one of the best appointed grounds around the Country.

So definitely doesn’t need replacing, updating yes but not replacing.

[Rileybobs]

Obviously this is not going to happen. But there’s not too much wrong with Turf Moor.

[Roger1960]

I know we’d never do it because to fully rebuild the ground today would cost £200m+ I’d imagine with material costs, and building on the same site is more expensive than a clear site because of demolition cost and complexities meaning it takes longer.

Rotating the ground 90°, as Andre mentioned above, would probably work if money was no object. For a bit of fun I was just looking to see if it would fit the current site. You could incorporate a fan zone/bar into one corner like Bristol City have done.

Anyway, the best we can hope for is a new Cricket Field stand in 30 years and a new roof on the Bob Lor which removed the pillars.

Rotating the ground that way doesn’t work as the illustration shows there isn’t enough circulation space left around it to function safely. Rebuilding in situ could be possible if the cricket field was bought and you start building a new stadium from that end in due course it “swallows” the CFS and then the season after the club decants elsewhere and the rest of the old ground goes and the new is finished. This is how spurs did it , we played them in the last season at the old ground and one end of the stadium was closed as the new bit encroached on it. Moving out of town in the extremely unlikely event it could be afforded would in my opinion be a disaster , firstly the clubs fan base isn’t big enough to consistently fill a stadium of 30k or more and alternative uses such a as concerts are not feasible when so many indoor and outdoor venues in Manchester do this and they have far superior transport connections. I think a gradual redevelopment of CFS and bob lord and refresh of the public spaces in the other two over the next 5-10 years is a more feasible and affordable alternative, you only have to look at the dire financial straits Everton are getting into to try and pay for their new stadium to be cautious

[IanMcL]

Leave Turf Moor where it is....warts and all.
In my 70 years plus of being a Claret, every time I walk up the steps in the ground I can palbibly feel the history of our beloved club all around the ground.... remembering me and my dad witnessing games as English League title winners, European cup games, Inter City Fairs cup games etc.

Turf Moor is Turf Moor. A ground from the beginning of League Football. New works to enhance the walk and links to town. A atand to replace the Cricket Field Stand and some imagination inside the Longside. All well otherwise. Bob Lord is fine -don't lose my view!

[ArmchairDetective]

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An entire new ground built and we still can't get the goals to line up with the middle of the stand.

[Woodleyclaret]

Us oldies remember the dark days of Div 4 where we had tumbled down as our board priorities did not include s team but stands
Luton spent 30p getting their ground Premier league ready and its still a crap hole that suits their Alehouse brawler style
We have a good ground but must prioritise team over stadium

[Roosterbooster]

I'd hate an out of town ground. The priorities for me are location, and atmosphere. Steep banks, close to the pitch, completely enclosed, on the currwnt site, would be the dream
I'd also hate a soulless bowl.
I see no reason why stepwise development like anfield or Stamford Bridge can't be achieved based on the circumstances

[aclaretinstevenage]

An entire new ground built and we still can't get the goals to line up with the middle of the stand.

Well spotted that man. User name very accurate!

[Blatherwickstattoo]

I would walk away from the club as would plenty of others.
It's only feelings for the club and perhaps routine that keep us coming back.
Nobody gets value from modern day football.

The modern day owner doesn’t care about fans feelings I’m afraid it’s a money making business. If they could they’d build a new stadium heavily designed for corporate occasions and maximum profit . Brentford, Brighton , Everton , have all done it

[jrgbfc]

I agree we'd lose a lot of traditional support if we moved out of town. If we were in the Prem we could probably replace them with your tourists and fairweather types but if we ended up back in the Championship or lower how many would make the effort?