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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by alwaysaclaret » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:49 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:48 pm
Really clever ,you laugh at your own jokes,how about coming up with some stats to show how good Trafford is ?
Not really a fan of such stats, but I did notice at least 4 or 5 attempted kicks out went straight to a city player last night, lost patience with it then my BP was on the rise so didn't look for any more.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by alwaysaclaret » Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:07 pm

Not sure about a team till we know about 1 or 2's fitness, but at last a bit of height.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:12 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:49 am
Purely based on effort level last night I would go:

Trafford
Roberts, Al Dakhil, O’Shea, Vitinho
Brownhill, Berge, Ramsey
Fofana, Foster, Odobert
Ekdal didn’t put in enough effort? What a strange take.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:34 pm

............... Trafford

Assignon.. Beyer.. Esteve.. Taylor

......... Berge... . Massengo

. Fofana.. Tresor.. Odobert

................ Foster

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by DCWat » Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:31 pm

Amazes me that the Trafford / Muric debate gets so much air time. Particularly when Amdouni, who also plays week in and week out, and contributes far less than Trafford has done in games, seems to be a lesser issue, with most people (though I’m seeing a few more wanting him dropped now).

There’s definitely a player in Amdouni, but for whatever reason, it’s not working. He’s not learning to pick the right options, passing when he should shoot, shooting when he should pass, falling over his own feet, losing possession and not really supporting the striker or helping out defensively.

He’s a real quandary and until we find a way to get the most out of him and work at his faults, he needs some time on the bench.
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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:49 pm

Aren’t Beyer and Taylor injured still? Strange how posters keep putting them in the team.

Even more strange that posters keep putting Muric in goal…

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Roosterbooster » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:05 pm

Bear with me...

.......................Trafford
.........Al-Dhakil O'Shae. Esteve
Assignon Berge Brownhill Vitinho
..........Fofana Amdouni Foster

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:03 pm

GK
Any rb except Vitinho
O’Shea
Beyer or Ekdal
Taylor or AD

Brownhill
Berge
Massengo

Fofana
Foster
Odebert

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Westleigh » Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:22 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:12 am
Ekdal didn’t put in enough effort? What a strange take.
I think his style is a bid languid,but I reckon he’s the best footballer in the back line unless Steve is better but he certainly puts the effort .
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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:26 pm

DCWat wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:31 pm
Amazes me that the Trafford / Muric debate gets so much air time. Particularly when Amdouni, who also plays week in and week out, and contributes far less than Trafford has done in games, seems to be a lesser issue, with most people (though I’m seeing a few more wanting him dropped now).

There’s definitely a player in Amdouni, but for whatever reason, it’s not working. He’s not learning to pick the right options, passing when he should shoot, shooting when he should pass, falling over his own feet, losing possession and not really supporting the striker or helping out defensively.

He’s a real quandary and until we find a way to get the most out of him and work at his faults, he needs some time on the bench.
Got to imagine that’s why Fofana has been brought in

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Westleigh » Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:28 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:05 pm
Bear with me...

.......................Trafford
.........Al-Dhakil O'Shae. Esteve
Assignon Berge Brownhill Vitinho
..........Fofana Amdouni Foster
Looks like you’ve done what VK does when he picks the subs ,picking them out of a hat,I reckon you may be in the minority by picking Amdouni and Vitinho ,and Odebert has only had an off night against City so I reckon he should keep his place .

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:18 am

Westleigh wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:28 pm
Looks like you’ve done what VK does when he picks the subs ,picking them out of a hat,I reckon you may be in the minority by picking Amdouni and Vitinho ,and Odebert has only had an off night against City so I reckon he should keep his place .
7 replies on this thread. Not one giving your suggested lineup, instead you choose to slate our keeper and manager.
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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:49 am

Nice to see people putting Massengo in their line-ups.....from what little i've seen, he looks confident and assured. We've been desperate for a decent midfielder since Defour left.* & we have little to lose at this stage.

* not comparing them in any way....before i'm pounced upon.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Anthonini » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:16 am

Westleigh wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:28 pm
Looks like you’ve done what VK does when he picks the subs ,picking them out of a hat,I reckon you may be in the minority by picking Amdouni and Vitinho ,and Odebert has only had an off night against City so I reckon he should keep his place .
Nothing wrong with his line up... He can have an opinion of his own can't he? Too much vinegar on your chips?
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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by claretandy » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:06 am

Amdouni has had enough chances now.

Trafford
Vitiniho O'Shea ekdal Delacroix
................. Cullen.....................
Brownhill............... Berge
Fofana......................... Odebert
,................... Foster

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by matttheclaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:22 am

Difficult one to have a go at today, not sure either of the newbies starts plus not really sure who's available, sounds like one of Taylor, Beyer or Delcroix might be back in the squad.

Trafford (I think he has improved recently and we're at the point where we might as well stick with him now)
Vitinho O'Shea Esteve Al Dakhil
Berg Brownhill
Fofana JBG Odobert
Foster
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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Carlos the Great » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:27 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:34 pm
Give the witch-hunt up pal,there is 10 others playing you know that don't you? :roll:
It’s not a witch hunt .. Trafford gives the ball away 4 out of every 5 times he kicks it out …that’s a fact and another fact is we only have 12 points
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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Carlos the Great » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:32 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:52 pm
Exactly...but he thinks Trsfford is our only problem, he thinks Muric will keep us up if he gets a run 😂
Muric might not keep us up .. the damage is done but he would improve the team IMO .. the difference when Muric kicks out it’s not a hopeless ball in the air but a quick pin point pass to feet … hoofing it upfield might be ok in division 1 but it won’t work in the premier league
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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Ampth7 » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:02 am

Trafford
Ekdal. Esteve. O’Shea
Assignon. Cullen. AAD
Brownhill. Berge
Fofana. Foster

5-3-2 to try to stop us conceding more than 2 goals per game whilst maximising the potential pairing of Foster and Fofana up top. I am aware that AAD at left back isn’t ideal but I’m assuming Taylor is out injured for a while yet. I’m also aware this leaves out Odobert, but I feel he is very raw and whilst he is very talented, needs must right now.
I am also aware that the above selection won’t happen 😂 so here is what I think he’ll go with.

Trafford
Assignon. Ekdal/O’Shea. Esteve. AAD
JBG. Brownhill. Berge. Odobert
Amdouni
Foster

It will be interesting to see if the new players start, which I think they should.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:37 am

Now we know the ins and outs

Trafford

Assignon Ekdal esteve Vitinho


Cullen
Berge
Brownhill

Fofana
Foster
Odobert

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:49 am

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:27 am
It’s not a witch hunt .. Trafford gives the ball away 4 out of every 5 times he kicks it out …that’s a fact
It’s not a fact or even remotely near being a fact.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:33 am

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:27 am
It’s not a witch hunt .. Trafford gives the ball away 4 out of every 5 times he kicks it out …that’s a fact and another fact is we only have 12 points
Don't harp on at me,think you better give Vincent a call and share your wisdom with him.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Roosterbooster » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:36 am

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:27 am
It’s not a witch hunt .. Trafford gives the ball away 4 out of every 5 times he kicks it out …that’s a fact
Show me the evidence

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Roosterbooster » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:47 am

Westleigh wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:28 pm
Looks like you’ve done what VK does when he picks the subs ,picking them out of a hat,I reckon you may be in the minority by picking Amdouni and Vitinho ,and Odebert has only had an off night against City so I reckon he should keep his place .
I agree with most of that. And it's rare that I go so leftwing with my suggested teams. But hear me out

I think Odobert has been superb. But probably had more offcolour games than just City. And he'd be a great player to bring on.

Fofana and Foster would really provide physicality up top, and can both play centrally or wide, and give Amdouni a chance to flourish. I know Amdouni has awful on Wednesday, but in the right circumstances, I think he really would be superb.

Vitinho has been hit and miss, yes. But he can play left. Gets up and down. And would provide some balance for a back 3.

I think a back 3 could suit us, if we balanced it elsewhere. If Brownhill and Berge sat deep mostly, it would get the full backs pushing high, and reduce the need for specific wide men. Assignon looks more like a right winger than a full back in the reels I've seen, so we probably need some protection if he plays. AAD RCB could be this.

In reality, I wouldn't pick this team if I was VK. Its too much of a gamble. But I'd be tempted to work on this going forward

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by ecc » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:52 am

"This is why events unnerve me
They find it all, a different story
Notice whom for wheels are turning
Turn again and turn towards this time
All she asks the strength to hold me
THEN AGAIN THE SAME OLD STORY"

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by dougcollins » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:54 am

According to the BBC:

'Hannes Delcroix, Jordan Beyer and Charlie Taylor all missed Burnley's defeat at Manchester City, but manager Vincent Kompany says an unnamed one of those three could return on Saturday.'

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:57 am

After his performance against city I'd give Amdouni a rest, play Fofana instead.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by South West Claret. » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:58 am

bumba wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:21 am
Muric
Beyer O'Shea Esteve Taylor

Berge Brownhill

Fofana Amdouni Odabert

Foster
The same team as against City in the week minus Amdouni as he appeared to static for most of the game.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by bumba » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:02 am

South West Claret. wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:58 am
The same team as against City in the week minus Amdouni as he appeared to static for most of the game.
Amdouni will definitely start at home I think, he's the only player who looks to try and create anything.
Assignon I imagine will come in at right back and Vitinho to left back if Taylor isn't fit, not sure he will start Esteve today but I think we have to start Fofana over JBG at home today it's must win

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by dougcollins » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:04 am

The thought of Vitinho at LB is not one that puts my mind at rest.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by BleedingClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:10 am

Westleigh wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:57 pm
If I’m the ‘he’ your talking about then he didn’t say that Muric was the answer,however James Trafford may be the best goalkeeper in the World in 5 years ,but this season we need a guy who is good now.
The decision to drop Muric and play Trafford from the off this season was a mistake in the same way that we should have started with the feel good factor and continuity of last year championship winning team that had won the Premier league place and deserved the right to keep or lose their place in the team and then the new players should have been integrated in.
Reminded me of Dyche putting the players that had won the European place, maybe their only chance to play at that level, on the bench, it backfired and the league form suffered too.
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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Anthonini » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:10 am

dougcollins wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:04 am
The thought of Vitinho at LB is not one that puts my mind at rest.
Still can't believe we bought a central defender instead of a leftback.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Goliath » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:17 am

............Trafford

Assignon O'Shea Ekdal Taylor

..........Berge Brownhill

JBG Rodriguez/Ramsey Odobert

................Foster

*assuming Taylor isn't injured

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:34 am

Taylor is injured.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:39 am

dougcollins wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:54 am
According to the BBC:

'Hannes Delcroix, Jordan Beyer and Charlie Taylor all missed Burnley's defeat at Manchester City, but manager Vincent Kompany says an unnamed one of those three could return on Saturday.'
Unless it was an old photo, Delcroix was pictured in training on Thursday. I haven’t seen any photos of Beyer or Taylor in training for a good while.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by sjb » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:42 am

Trafford
Assignon O'Shea Esteve Vitinho
JBG Berge Brownhill Odobert
Fofana Foster

But VK seems to have a lot of faith in Amdouni so he will probaby start
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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by South West Claret. » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:45 am

bumba wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:02 am
Amdouni will definitely start at home I think, he's the only player who looks to try and create anything.
Assignon I imagine will come in at right back and Vitinho to left back if Taylor isn't fit, not sure he will start Esteve today but I think we have to start Fofana over JBG at home today it's must win
Well if Amdouni does start then I do hope he moves about a bit more when he’s out of possession and attacks the opposition player with the ball early.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by sjb » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:50 am

I think Esteve & Fofana both need to start if only to give us a bit of physical presence at set pieces both attacking & defending.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by StuffyClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:01 am

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:27 am
It’s not a witch hunt .. Trafford gives the ball away 4 out of every 5 times he kicks it out …that’s a fact and another fact is we only have 12 points
Trafford has 68.8% passing accuracy according to FootMob and un understandably lower 29.6% long ball passing accuracy......but don't let these more reliable 'facts' get in the way of your agenda

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by willsclarets » Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:10 am

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:27 am
It’s not a witch hunt .. Trafford gives the ball away 4 out of every 5 times he kicks it out …that’s a fact and another fact is we only have 12 points
Those aren't correlated facts though are they. Shark attacks increase with ice cream sales too.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:23 am

I think we have a good chance today and I'm sticking to my 4-2-3-1 on the basis that my years of playing Football Manager and Fifa has given me far more experience than VKs couple of years in the Beer and Chocolate league and one year in the Championship.

——--------------Trafford---------------
Assignon——O’Shea——Ekdal——Esteve
------------Berge——Brownhill-------
Fofana--Ramsay--Odobert
------------------Foster--------------------

Looks a bit like a school team but hope springs eternal so the say.....

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:26 am

Trafford
Oshea Ekdal Esteve
Assingon Vitinho/Taylor
Brownhill Berge
Amdouni
Fofana Foster
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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by mkmel » Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:39 am

What is Fofana's best position?

Is it as a striker, attacking midfielder or even a winger?

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Carlos the Great » Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:44 pm

StuffyClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:01 am
Trafford has 68.8% passing accuracy according to FootMob and un understandably lower 29.6% long ball passing accuracy......but don't let these more reliable 'facts' get in the way of your agenda
29.6 % long ball passing isn’t great is it ? .. that means it goes to the opposition over 70% of the time … :D :D

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by dougcollins » Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:54 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:44 pm
29.6 % long ball passing isn’t great is it ? .. that means it goes to the opposition over 70% of the time … :D :D
You'd expect to do better than that by chance - just randomly hit it up the field.
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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by StuffyClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:57 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:44 pm
29.6 % long ball passing isn’t great is it ? .. that means it goes to the opposition over 70% of the time … :D :D

I never said it was great. However you said that 4 out of every 5 of his passes (20%) goes to the opposing team.....you are clearly wrong based on the 'facts' that I have provided

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by SussexDon1inIreland » Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:05 pm

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by Westleigh » Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:06 pm

Can’t believe Vitinho and Amdouni are playing today.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by dougcollins » Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:08 pm

Ramsey and Assignon(in his first game) down the same side looks scary.

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Re: Team for Fulham

Post by StuffyClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:08 pm

Sorry for the typo above.....clearly it should read 80%!

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