ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds

[ClaretTony]

And another loan out confirmed

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/roberts-moves-to-leeds

[Steve1956]

Hope he's back with us next season in the Championship....... good footballer is Connor.

[CoolClaret]

A lot of loans and loans with options to buy around Europe -

Shows how mental football is now, clubs everywhere just financing deals in very abstract ways, kicking the can down the road..

On topic - it's not quite Robbie Blake signing for Leeds gut-wrenching, but it's not great.

[Goliath]

Apparently already said he wants to stay there permanently to The Athletic. Hes wanted out since he got here imo, im not sorry to see him go.
He has to play in a team that dominates possession or hes a bang average full back even at champ level.

[CoolClaret]

Apparently already said he wants to stay there permanently to The Athletic. Hes wanted out since he got here imo, im not sorry to see him go.
He has to play in a team that dominates possession or hes a bang average full back even at champ level.

Daft comment:

https://x.com/ConnorRobs/status/1644622 ... 01987?s=20

https://x.com/ConnorRobs/status/1655913 ... 56864?s=20

[Hedontplayforyou]

He’s been poor this year when in the side . Looks really slow and ponderous in the top flight. Last season when he inverted he was outstanding but the levels are huge and his defending leaves a lot to be desired. Having said that, thanks for last season connor

[ClaretTony]

Apparently already said he wants to stay there permanently to The Athletic. Hes wanted out since he got here imo, im not sorry to see him go.
He has to play in a team that dominates possession or hes a bang average full back even at champ level.

Good grief. The lad had a serious illness in his first season at Burnley that might have taken his life. While not being his biggest fan, one bit of criticism I can't throw his way is a lack of commitment and desire. He's certainly shown that and not given any clues or suggestions that he's wanted out since he got here. It must have been horrific for him to go through what he went through and just after becoming a dad too.

If he has said he would like the move to become permanent, it might be because he's been forced to sit and watch a worse player getting in the team ahead of him.

[KRBFC]

it might be because he's been forced to sit and watch a worse player getting in the team ahead of him.

Whose fault is that? Roberts started the season as first choice, he was getting torn to pieces weekly, got sent off and deservedly dropped. Soon as he was taken out, we stopped getting tonked every game.

I think he’s a better footballer than Vitinho but that shouldn’t mean he’s in the team every week, got to play well and keep your spot.

[123EasyasBFC]

Good grief. The lad had a serious illness in his first season at Burnley that might have taken his life. While not being his biggest fan, one bit of criticism I can't throw his way is a lack of commitment and desire. He's certainly shown that and not given any clues or suggestions that he's wanted out since he got here. It must have been horrific for him to go through what he went through and just after becoming a dad too.

If he has said he would like the move to become permanent, it might be because he's been forced to sit and watch a worse player getting in the team ahead of him.

Harsh on Vitinho calling him a worse player, you’ve praised Roberts for his commitment and desire, something Vitinho has. Vitinho kept roberts out the side when he was worrying about getting injured before the World Cup.

Roberts never felt like he would fit under dyche then had the terrible illness which set him back. He has really only had from December to send of last season of playing well for us and we had the league pretty much done by end of feb

[Goliath]

Good grief. The lad had a serious illness in his first season at Burnley that might have taken his life. While not being his biggest fan, one bit of criticism I can't throw his way is a lack of commitment and desire. He's certainly shown that and not given any clues or suggestions that he's wanted out since he got here. It must have been horrific for him to go through what he went through and just after becoming a dad too.

If he has said he would like the move to become permanent, it might be because he's been forced to sit and watch a worse player getting in the team ahead of him.

Obviously im not talking about the illness which was awful. However he stated himself he wasnt happy here and didnt like the style of football under Dyche.
My post probably came over a bit harsh in hindsight but i just don't think he's ever looked a good fit in a Burnley shirt. He didn't really do himself any favours having a hissy fit on Instagram after he didnt go straight intk the starting line up after signing.
But yes being behind someone like Vitinho must have been incredibly frustrating, i can only think something went on behind the scenes but i've said that about Zaroury, Benson and Muric now in a way to try and rationalise some very odd decision making.

[ClaretTony]

However he stated himself he wasnt happy here and didnt like the style of football under Dyche.

Did he?

[forzagranata]

Teams that are scrapping against relegation don't tend to loan out players like Roberts - you need battlers and 100 percenters in a relegation scrap.

[NewClaret]

I think it’s marginal between Vitinho and Roberts.

In a nutshell: Roberts is the better footballer but lacks pace; Vitinho has pace but is a less accomplished footballer.

I think Kompany basically thinks you have to have pace to defend against Premier League players and I’d say he’s right. I think that’s why he didn’t fancy Roberts or THB in the prem.

Still, think Connor was outstanding last year and wish him well on his loan. Would take him back in a heartbeat in the Championship next year.

[123EasyasBFC]

Teams that are scrapping against relegation don't tend to loan out players like Roberts - you need battlers and 100 percenters in a relegation scrap.

What have you seen in Vitinho to say he’s not a battler or a 100 percenter. He is one of the ones you can tell every game is putting a shift in and trying to have the confidence to move the ball forwards, he gets into trouble at times but so does Beyer, Taylor, brownhill and Berge the list goes on

[NewClaret]

Did he?

He definitely said something to the effect he was really unhappy here prior to Kompany coming in and adopting a new style.

[PremierLeagueClass]

Roberts is nowhere near good enough at this level, complete liability. Same for Vitinho. Hopefully we’ve resolved that problem.

[NewClaret]

What have you seen in Vitinho to say he’s not a battler or a 100 percenter. He is one of the ones you can tell every game is putting a shift in and trying to have the confidence to move the ball forwards, he gets into trouble at times but so does Beyer, Taylor, brownhill and Berge the list goes on

Yeah I don’t get any arguments that our players aren’t giving 100%.

I think at times people are seeing lack of ability (or lack of having the same ability as their opponents) as lack of effort.

[ClaretTony]

What have you seen in Vitinho to say he’s not a battler or a 100 percenter. He is one of the ones you can tell every game is putting a shift in and trying to have the confidence to move the ball forwards, he gets into trouble at times but so does Beyer, Taylor, brownhill and Berge the list goes on

He's good on the goals again last night isn't he Vitinho? He can't defend and Beyer can't either, he's a good footballer but is constantly found out at this level in terms of defending.

[Clive 1960]

Good grief. The lad had a serious illness in his first season at Burnley that might have taken his life. While not being his biggest fan, one bit of criticism I can't throw his way is a lack of commitment and desire. He's certainly shown that and not given any clues or suggestions that he's wanted out since he got here. It must have been horrific for him to go through what he went through and just after becoming a dad too.

If he has said he would like the move to become permanent, it might be because he's been forced to sit and watch a worse player getting in the team ahead of him.

I can only think that Vincent thinks Vitinho as a bit more pace and cover ground quicker, for me Roberts is a better option not saying he's a premier league player but for me better option than Vitinho..

[Goliath]

Did he?

He did, not sure where to start to even try and find the quotes but he definitely said something along those lines

[fidelcastro]

He definitely said something to the effect he was really unhappy here prior to Kompany coming in and adopting a new style.

The change of style ensured we never saw his trademark long throw for long periods.

Was he happy to have that string to his bow restricted?

I guess it didn't matter last season when we were winning, but may have come in handy this season.

[123EasyasBFC]

He's good on the goals again last night isn't he Vitinho? He can't defend and Beyer can't either, he's a good footballer but is constantly found out at this level in terms of defending.

How is Vitinho at fault for the goals last night? Ekdal has 3 looks at alverez and then leaves him, the second goal is an inch perfect pass and Odobert doesn’t see the run. The 3rd goal comes from the left hand side, so I fail to see how you can blame vitinho there

[NewClaret]

To be honest, I think this is as good a move as we could’ve hoped for. He’s unlikely to play again for us (thought that last night when he came over waving to the crowd), so…

Leeds have no RB’s. They’ll need to buy one next summer, maybe two. If they’re forking out, Roberts will be a cheap-ish option given his experience.

Roberts will improve them and hopefully take them up, clearing them out of our way for next year.

They’ll then be awash in Prem cash to give us a decent wedge.

[forzagranata]

What have you seen in Vitinho to say he’s not a battler or a 100 percenter. He is one of the ones you can tell every game is putting a shift in and trying to have the confidence to move the ball forwards, he gets into trouble at times but so does Beyer, Taylor, brownhill and Berge the list goes on

I didn't say a word about Vitinho. You can't fault Vitinho's effort. His defending and end product you can certainly question but not his effort or work-rate.

Kompany was using Roberts off the bench in midfield to help us try to see out some games. He'll probably use Massengo or Ramsay to do that now?

[123EasyasBFC]

I didn't say a word about Vitinho. You can't fault Vitinho's effort. His defending and end product you can certainly question but not his effort or work-rate.

Kompany was using Roberts off the bench in midfield to help us try to see out some games. He'll probably use Massengo or Ramsay to do that now?

Again I don’t think there’s much different in end product to them both
Massengo and Ramsey probably won’t be in the squad now at the weekend, that seems to happen with the a lot this season with the subs

[CrosspoolClarets]

Teams that are scrapping against relegation don't tend to loan out players like Roberts - you need battlers and 100 percenters in a relegation scrap.

Everton, as an example, are battling relegation being in the bottom three, and loaned out Maupey, who has those battling qualities in spades, and with 4 in 4 this month can find the net given the right service. Everton need goalscorers too.

Plenty of examples of teams doing this at the bottom. We only have a squad of 25 and we needed an improvement in that position above any other - no matter which of the two got shipped out. Personally, I like Roberts ahead of Vitinho, but neither are good enough for us at this level. It was right to bring someone in. I just hope he is that improvement.

For better or worse, Kompany likes pace and power. He said as much in his interview today. Roberts, Taylor, Cork, Rodriguez, Cullen, Zaroury - no surprise they don’t get many minutes when there is pace as an alternative.

[fidelcastro]

Again I don’t think there’s much different in end product to them both
Massengo and Ramsey probably won’t be in the squad now at the weekend, that seems to happen with the a lot this season with the subs

It depends whose name is drawn out of the hat just before 2pm.

[CoolClaret]

Christ almighty can we please give kudos and appreciation to players that have shown commitment and actually done something in a Burnley shirt?

Some horrid entitlement and chastising of players now. Decent lad is Connor - wish him all the best.

[123EasyasBFC]

Christ almighty can we please give kudos and appreciation to players that have shown commitment and actually done something in a Burnley shirt?

Some horrid entitlement and chastising of players now. Decent lad is Connor - wish him all the best.

The same should be said for players currently wearing the shirt

[Swizzlestick]

Christ almighty can we please give kudos and appreciation to players that have shown commitment and actually done something in a Burnley shirt?

Some horrid entitlement and chastising of players now. Decent lad is Connor - wish him all the best.

Didn’t you once start a thread specifically to dig out Dara O’Shea?

[CoolClaret]

The same should be said for players currently wearing the shirt

The ones that put a shift in and are tenacious/don't look hard done to get my full support.

Didn’t you once start a thread specifically to dig out Dara O’Shea?

I did -

I also reflected and made another one about 6 gameweeks later, giving support and commendation for him kicking on and showing a notable improvement.

Though hasty and wrong, I did also make it after he had made consecutive, costly errors Burnley shirt (doesn't make it right)

[Iloveyoubrady]

While I’m not really a fan of Roberts of a player. He has a good record and will be a pretty valuable asset. We paid f all for him as well so not bad business.

What I’m confused about is the fact we’ve got rid of one of our two right backs.
We started the season with one left back, now we’ve brought in a player who can play left back so look more balanced, but make sure that’s not the case by loaning out Roberts. Ridiculous

[CoolClaret]

While I’m not really a fan of Roberts of a player. He has a good record and will be a pretty valuable asset. We paid f all for him as well so not bad business.

What I’m confused about is the fact we’ve got rid of one of our two right backs.
We started the season with one left back, now we’ve brought in a player who can play left back so look more balanced, but make sure that’s not the case by loaning out Roberts. Ridiculous

We just brought another in from Stade Rennais - Lorenz Assignon

[Clive 1960]

How is Vitinho at fault for the goals last night? Ekdal has 3 looks at alverez and then leaves him, the second goal is an inch perfect pass and Odobert doesn’t see the run. The 3rd goal comes from the left hand side, so I fail to see how you can blame vitinho there

O,shea was at fault i think for one goal turning is back on the shot like a school boy..

[Jakubclaret]

Everton, as an example, are battling relegation being in the bottom three, and loaned out Maupey, who has those battling qualities in spades, and with 4 in 4 this month can find the net given the right service. Everton need goalscorers too.

Plenty of examples of teams doing this at the bottom. We only have a squad of 25 and we needed an improvement in that position above any other - no matter which of the two got shipped out. Personally, I like Roberts ahead of Vitinho, but neither are good enough for us at this level. It was right to bring someone in. I just hope he is that improvement.

For better or worse, Kompany likes pace and power. He said as much in his interview today. Roberts, Taylor, Cork, Rodriguez, Cullen, Zaroury - no surprise they don’t get many minutes when there is pace as an alternative.

"Battling" don't talk daft everton wouldn't be anywhere near where they are now if it wasn't for the points deduction & nobody really thinks that everton will get relegated. Dyche wouldn't have let maupay go if he needed him. He's gone out on loan (Leeds) to balance the books with the new loanees coming in. Everton are a completely different entity & proposition to where we are concerned they can make mistakes & ultimately get away with them.

[mkmel]

Whatever happened to his long throws that we heard so much about when we signed him.

I can't remember him getting any assists from his throw ins.

[Passing Clouds]

If there’s one thing that makes me question VK as a coach it’s picking Vitinho. Yes, plenty of effort and commitment but seriously out of his depth. It’s veryclear the opposition have identified this.

[superdimitri]

Roberts has got to the age now where he will no longer improve. He's already shown he's not up to premier league standards.
Vitinho may be a worse defender right now but he's younger and has physical attributes as well as the determination to improve.
Kompany may see it as an opportunity for improve Vitinho and the new lad coming in.

You can teach a player how to defend better, technically and mentally but what you can't teach is to make a player work harder or to carry more desire and in the modern game being good going forward is very important too. Even Trippier has issues defending well in this league and he's a player who we improved a lot defensively in his time for us.

[Cooclaret]

Weghorst was right all along.

Happy to see him go, hope he gets an offer in Leeds. There fan base will soon work him out and let us know what they think.

[RicardoMontalban]

If there’s one thing that makes me question VK as a coach it’s picking Vitinho. Yes, plenty of effort and commitment but seriously out of his depth. It’s veryclear the opposition have identified this.

And now we’ve signed a better (hopefully) right back.

Whatever Kompany’s view on Vitinho, he clearly didn’t rate Roberts as being good enough either. Not sure I can disagree there. One of those players who may look excellent in the Championship but can’t make the step up in level.

[Woodleyclaret]

Connor had some decent games last year but at tines this year he appeared to lack desire
I hope he does well at Leeds and his errors result in more losses.Sell him for North of £5m

[Swizzlestick]

"Battling" don't talk daft everton wouldn't be anywhere near where they are now if it wasn't for the points deduction & nobody really thinks that everton will get relegated. Dyche wouldn't have let maupay go if he needed him. He's gone out on loan (Leeds) to balance the books with the new loanees coming in. Everton are a completely different entity & proposition to where we are concerned they can make mistakes & ultimately get away with them.

Everton may well stay up but the fact is - I know how much you like facts - they are in the bottom three and are winless in their last six games. A few had them comfortably top half even with the points reduction.

[agreenwood]

Roberts is one of those high end Championship players who don’t quite cut it in the PL. He more than played his part last season though once he’d got the World Cup out of the way.

My slight issue with this transfer is I’m not sure we’ve got anyone better. Vitinho isn’t good enough either and the lad we’ve just brought in from Rennes couldn’t get in their starting XI.

[Swizzlestick]

He was a regular starter until only relatively recently though. And started Europa League games in that time.

[agreenwood]

He was a regular starter until only relatively recently though. And started Europa League games in that time.

Hopefully he’ll be fine. I just looked back through a handful of Rennes games and saw he was an unused sub.

[bfcjg]

Look what was in front of Roberts allegedly helping out, look at the opposition in his first games. I'd sooner have him at right back than Vitinho.

[Hibsclaret]

Blaming Vitinho for the goals on Wednesday is a new low for on here. He was up against probably the quickest player in the league who created nothing. None of the goals were the fault of Vitinho who has played his part in us looking more solid over the last couple of months.

As for Roberts he has done well too but if the manager believes he isn’t good enough then that’s good enough for me.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Good luck to him
For the reputed £2.5 million, we did alright out of that, especially if we get something back this summer for him

Always seemed a decent enough bloke

[MrTopTier]

Good move for Roberts.

Good player at the top end of Championship, going to play with his fellow team mates from Wales will help him as well.

We have enough to make up an 11 out on loan at the minute. Mad.

[KRBFC]

Christ almighty can we please give kudos and appreciation to players that have shown commitment and actually done something in a Burnley shirt?

Some horrid entitlement and chastising of players now. Decent lad is Connor - wish him all the best.

You’re proper full of poo, let’s only show appreciation to those VK isn’t picking to start!