TRAFFORD (AGAIN)

[StayingDown4Ever]

The big thing for me is that Trafford nearly always tries to play sweeper keeper (obviously under orders) so can’t really blame him for the two goals today.

I think that message of mine you quoted was from one of the many other games he made errors. Don’t ask me which one cause there’s too many games it could have been.

Yes I agree there’s nothing he could have done about either goal today - but his passes straight to the opposition could have easily cost us goals again today.

[IanMcL]

I am fed up watching this lad in goal. He is 21 and not up to it at present. Good shot stopper but not good at much else. If he was signed for his footwork, then we signed a dud!

I watch just waiting for his next clanger. Not disappointed so dar!

The defence around him has the jitters. Trafford rested is the need.

Culprit is the manager for choosing him.

[Steddyman]

The abuse this kid gets is absolutely shocking....call your self supporters...hang your heads in shame...it's disgusting the treatment he's getting.

Unfortunately, this is a job for a man, not a kid, and if VK can't see that, he needs to go. If he'd change him, and take the tough decisions I'd be happy to support him VK, but this inability to make tough decisions is costing us every week.

Yes, I know the goals weren't Traffords fault, but he just can't play our system of playing out from the back and his distribution is terrible. He makes our fans and defenders nervous every time the ball comes back to him.

[Belgianclaret]

Everytime he’s got the ball it seems like we’ve got plenty of time, and then he kicks it long to the opposition

[Nori1958]

No it ain’t he does it every game pisses about on the ball trying to draw a player on then either puts a defender under pressure with a terrible pass or boots it out or gives it to a opposition player

Tell me 3 passes in the first half that went to a Bournemouth player? You won't be able to, because there wasn't... Which was the point trying, falsely, to be made

[Darthlaw]

I still think he's getting off lightly.

Stop reading here

[South West Claret.]

I think that message of mine you quoted was from one of the many other games he made errors. Don’t ask me which one cause there’s too many games it could have been.

Yes I agree there’s nothing he could have done about either goal today - but his passes straight to the opposition could have easily cost us goals again today.

Absolutely, but again he’s playing under orders so I’m reluctant to drop him.

[Nori1958]

I am fed up watching this lad in goal. He is 21 and not up to it at present. Good shot stopper but not good at much else. If he was signed for his footwork, then we signed a dud!

I watch just waiting for his next clanger. Not disappointed so dar!

The defence around him has the jitters. Trafford rested is the need.

Culprit is the manager for choosing him.

So, a game where he was not at fault for either goal, you still want to have a go, like the morons who booed him after 10 minutes, absolute disgrace and the sooner they clear off the better.

[IanMcL]

So, a game where he was not at fault for either goal, you still want to have a go, like the morons who booed him after 10 minutes, absolute disgrace and the sooner they clear off the better.

He is a liability as part of a team playing out from the back. A disaster that happens, time and again.

[StayingDown4Ever]

So, a game where he was not at fault for either goal, you still want to have a go, like the morons who booed him after 10 minutes, absolute disgrace and the sooner they clear off the better.

Just give it up.

Go and read the player scored thread and you’ll see you’re just embarrassing yourself now trying to defend this guy.

It’s telling that you have to highlight that he wasn’t at fault for either goal in the game because he usually is.

[bumba]

Tell me 3 passes in the first half that went to a Bournemouth player? You won't be able to, because there wasn't... Which was the point trying, falsely, to be made

He kicked several straight out of play to give Bournemouth possession back, he failed to come out for a couple of through balls and there was one pass similar to last week with Brownhill. He had a shocker, give it up now.

[bumba]

That is no reason to abuse Trafford.

What about him taking his time like we're 4-0 up?

[Nori1958]

Just give it up.

Go and read the player scored thread and you’ll see you’re just embarrassing yourself now trying to defend this guy.

It’s telling that you have to highlight that he wasn’t at fault for either goal in the game because he usually is.

But you make things up...... He did not pass to a Bournemouth player 3 times in the 1st half, iam not defending him, just calling you out as a liar, if that means you go crying to the mods then fine, it would say more about you than me.

[The Shire Claret]

Today had nothing to do with Trafford - find it cringy when people boo our own …. It’s not his fault he’s being picked and it’s quite obvious he’s following instruction.

Would I have Muric …. Yes …. But I would never boo our player giving his all

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[Burnley1989]

I dont see what VK obviously does in him, I'm not even convinced he's a good championship GK but when you're playing the system we are and he's expected to be on the ball a lot, getting on his back is only going to cause him to make more mistakes so I'm not sure what fans are trying to achieve there.

[Nori1958]

He kicked several straight out of play to give Bournemouth possession back, he failed to come out for a couple of through balls and there was one pass similar to last week with Brownhill. He had a shocker, give it up now.

I won't deny he kicked it out of play, and I've already accepted on one occasion it went to a Bournemouth player

Iam saying he didn't pass direct to a Bournemouth player 3 times in the 1st half as claimed by the resident expert on goalkeeping

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Here i go again on my own, going down the only road ive ever known (Nori's favourite song)

[StayingDown4Ever]

But you make things up...... He did not pass to a Bournemouth player 3 times in the 1st half, iam not defending him, just calling you out as a liar, if that means you go crying to the mods then fine, it would say more about you than me.

dry your tears. You are humiliating yourself.

[Nori1958]

dry your tears. You are humiliating yourself.

I think you'll find that's you, unable to back up your ridiculous claims

[Murger]

It’s mind-boggling that you aren’t allowed to criticise him on here or at the ground.

[StayingDown4Ever]

I think you'll find that's you, unable to back up your ridiculous claims

If you think I’m watching pony back to find some angry man of the internet the times of the incidents you are sadly mistaken.

[Nori1958]

He is a liability as part of a team playing out from the back. A disaster that happens, time and again.

But not today?

[Nori1958]

If you think I’m watching pony back to find some angry man of the internet the times of the incidents you are sadly mistaken.

You don't need to watch it back, you said you'd seen it at half time, you're a liar, because now you Carnt even state the occasions you claim you actual you saw it happen and couldn't wait to come on here and tell everyone about it, even though it didn't happen
There is no doubt that had Trafford passed it to a Bournemouth player THREE times, the moronic boos aimed at him would have been much louder than they were.

[Nori1958]

It’s mind-boggling that you aren’t allowed to criticise him on here or at the ground.

No problem criticising anyone, as long as its factually correct.

[Rileybobs]

What about him taking his time like we're 4-0 up?

Him playing in a way he’s clearly instructed to play is also not a reason to boo him. But obviously booing his name as the teams are announced is just the behaviour of a low life.

[Casper2]

But not today?

Do you go to home games Nori ?

[bumba]

But not today?

It did happen today similar to the Brownhill one last week or what about the one he waited until Solanke got too close then just hit it out in front of the Bob Lord?

Your making out he was 10/10.
Have you not realised there's probably only 3 people left defending his selections now?

[Leisure]

It’s mind-boggling that you aren’t allowed to criticise him on here or at the ground.

There's a difference between criticising one of our player and booing him!

[Leisure]

I think that message of mine you quoted was from one of the many other games he made errors. Don’t ask me which one cause there’s too many games it could have been.

Yes I agree there’s nothing he could have done about either goal today - but his passes straight to the opposition could have easily cost us goals again today.

So it's ok when the other players pass it straight to an opponent and they don't get booed but when Trafford does it he gets booed!

[Nori1958]

Do you go to home games Nori ?

Every game, but didn't see a disaster today, not at fault for either goal.... Not commenting on any other game

[Leisure]

Why? He isn’t good enough and is making constant mistakes costing the team a lot of goals and points. He deserves all he gets.

Didn't cost us any points today but I bet you still booed him!

[The Shire Claret]

Didn't cost us any points today but I bet you still booed him!

Will never ever get with booing your own player …

[The Shire Claret]

Didn't cost us any points today but I bet you still booed him!

Will never ever get with booing your own player …

[Nori1958]

It did happen today similar to the Brownhill one last week or what about the one he waited until Solanke got too close then just hit it out in front of the Bob Lord?

Your making out he was 10/10.
Have you not realised there's probably only 3 people left defending his selections now?

Making things up again.... I never said he was 10/10, I've admitted he made the bad pass you describe
Iam not defending his selection
What I am saying, and getting bored of it now, is that he didn't pass it directly to a Bournemouth player 3 times in the 1st half as claimed by your mate

[expoultryboy]

It's bang out of order booing any of our players . Trafford ( for his own sake ) shouldn't be playing at present , he's just not ready yet . This is all down to VK being soooo stubborn/ arrogant and trying to justify buying him .

[Cirrus_Minor]

I didn't think he did too badly today. Kicked one straight out for a throwing, Pope used to do that on a regular basis. He is basically a rookie goalkeeper playing at the highest level and his selection is down to Kompany, not his fault. The heckling certionly won't help him.

[StayingDown4Ever]

It did happen today similar to the Brownhill one last week or what about the one he waited until Solanke got too close then just hit it out in front of the Bob Lord?

Your making out he was 10/10.
Have you not realised there's probably only 3 people left defending his selections now?

Don’t worry, we’re just getting to the stage of the evening where Nori throws his toys out the pram and comes out with his classic “I am staying away from this forum after defeats from now on and I won’t be posting anything further until tomorrow” (but then posts something else 20 minutes later)

[Casper2]

Every game, but didn't see a disaster today, not at fault for either goal.... Not commenting on any other game

He wasn’t at fault for either goal today , but it’s not fair on the lad to still be getting picked ,his confidence must be on the floor , Kompany should know better .

[Spindles]

The problem I have with Trafford is I don't think he has the footballing intelligence to read the play and positions of players. That's why he takes so long to release the ball and often passes to players who then are immediately under pressure.
several times in the first half he got lucky with poor control and dreadful passes when there were simple passes on.
Telling for me was in the second half when he dithered and then passed twice to O'shea out on the right when he was was not open to recurve the ball safely. He was rightly bollocking by oshea for that. Sometimes you just have to get shut.

[Nori1958]

Don’t worry, we’re just getting to the stage of the evening where Nori throws his toys out the pram and comes out with his classic “I am staying away from this forum after defeats from now on and I won’t be posting anything further until tomorrow” (but then posts something else 20 minutes later)

Instead of making things up... Again..... Just point out the 3 times our goalkeeper passes to a Bournemouth player or just admit you're a liar. It is really simple, deflect by trying to humiliate other posters if you want, but everyone can see what you said was a total crap

[Swizzlestick]

Don’t condone the booing, it’s ridiculous, but Kompany’s management over this has been utterly awful. Any manager worth his salt could see he needed taking out of the firing line weeks ago, and he’s just left him out there to take the heat. Really not good. Turning into a bit of a nightmare transfer for all concerned.

[mickleoverclaret]

Are people booing Trafford, or the decision to keep playing him?

[CoolClaret]

Don’t condone the booing, it’s ridiculous, but Kompany’s management over this has been utterly awful. Any manager worth his salt could see he needed taking out of the firing line weeks ago, and he’s just left him out there to take the heat. Really not good. Turning into a bit of a nightmare transfer for all concerned.

For the life of me I cannot figure out VK's rush to chuck him (And others) in at the expense of the longer standing players.

It's as clear as day that he's totally destroyed the harmony and cohesion of the team, despite what might come out in socials etc

Utter lunacy.

[Nori1958]

Are people booing Trafford, or the decision to keep playing him?

Trafford

[evensteadiereddie]

Here i go again on my own, going down the only road ive ever known (Nori's favourite song)

He's not on his own, a few of us get it.

[Sheedyclaret]

Don’t condone the booing, it’s ridiculous, but Kompany’s management over this has been utterly awful. Any manager worth his salt could see he needed taking out of the firing line weeks ago, and he’s just left him out there to take the heat. Really not good. Turning into a bit of a nightmare transfer for all concerned.

Still baffles me how we dropped a title winning keeper of a team that amassed 101 points for a league 1 keeper no surprise’s we are rank bad

[evensteadiereddie]

For the life of me I cannot figure out VK's rush to chuck him (And others) in at the expense of the longer standing players.

It's as clear as day that he's totally destroyed the harmony and cohesion of the team, despite what might come out in socials etc

Utter lunacy.

I've just back from the game, there was plenty of harmony and graft in today's performance.
It was a game we should have won and much improved although it doesn't suit the whingers'agenda to acknowledge that.

[edenclaret]

Boo Kompany or Pace not Trafford

[Sheedyclaret]

I've just back from the game, there was plenty of harmony and graft in today's performance.
It was a game we should have won and much improved although it doesn't suit the whingers'agenda to acknowledge that.

We didn’t win though so entirely right to be critical story of our season

[Nori1958]

I've just back from the game, there was plenty of harmony and graft in today's performance.
It was a game we should have won and much improved although it doesn't suit the whingers'agenda to acknowledge that.

Correct, they prefer to make things up to back up their ridiculous agendas, than to admit we were good in the main today, one defensive error and not clinical enough up front.
Some of the build up play was as good as we've been all season