JJ Watt...

[Vincent'sCap]

I'd lay off the tropical if I was you

I think he's totally forgotten he's on his yacht in the canaries

[Awayfromburnley]

I have heard from a very reliable source that there is a meeting of thr owners this coming week. One that has a formal feel to it.

[fidelcastro]

I have heard from a very reliable source that there is a meeting of thr owners this coming week. One that has a formal feel to it.

New manager coming in?

[dougcollins]

New manager coming in?

New owner coming in?

[bumba]

I have heard from a very reliable source that there is a meeting of thr owners this coming week. One that has a formal feel to it.

What would be the point in sacking VK now?
Season is over with we could have done it pre January to give a new manager a window to try and salvage things.
The point we are at now we may as well stick it out and hopefully he learns from his mistakes.
Yesterday's performance was largely positive, stubborn team selections are our biggest error at the moment

[Nori1958]

New owner coming in?

Or, a false story?

[CrosspoolClarets]

Watched both matches today ,unfortunately they’re all on another planet to us.

Is this the West Ham we dominated at the Turf until those late snatched goals? The Arsenal side who could only edge past us at home (like Liverpool)? The Man Utd side who were second best at the Turf? Or the Villa side where with proper reffing we could have beaten away?

Contrast that to the sides who get hammered, like West Ham today, or sides like Luton (praised universally) who have also lost to the bottom two at home.

We are about 3-4 wins short of where we needed to be in year 1, but what has led to that shortfall is ad hoc errors and set pieces, not being way short in open play to these other clubs. If we’d have grabbed those wins, lets say Luton, West Ham and Palace, we would be clear of relegation and being praised left, right and centre by all the pundits.

My point is let’s keep the context.

[Rileybobs]

I have heard from a very reliable source that there is a meeting of thr owners this coming week. One that has a formal feel to it.

It would be quite strange for the owners of a multi million pound business to have a formal meeting.

[123EasyasBFC]

Close to end of financial year, only normal for their to be a big board meeting this time of year.

In regards to the early posts about pressure on kompany, of course there is pressure on him, there would be pressure on him regardless of the league position, it’s a high pressure role.

It would seem an even stranger decision to sack kompany now than sacking dyche in April

[MDWat]

Is this the West Ham we dominated at the Turf until those late snatched goals? The Arsenal side who could only edge past us at home (like Liverpool)? The Man Utd side who were second best at the Turf? Or the Villa side where with proper reffing we could have beaten away?

Contrast that to the sides who get hammered, like West Ham today, or sides like Luton (praised universally) who have also lost to the bottom two at home.

We are about 3-4 wins short of where we needed to be in year 1, but what has led to that shortfall is ad hoc errors and set pieces, not being way short in open play to these other clubs. If we’d have grabbed those wins, lets say Luton, West Ham and Palace, we would be clear of relegation and being praised left, right and centre by all the pundits.

My point is let’s keep the context.

I enjoy your posts CrosspoolClarets, and largely agree.

Appreciate it’s not easy when we’re losing a lot but there are a lot of green shoots. Sure, we’ll likely go down (I’ve not given up yet) but depending on how many players we can keep together, it might do us good for a proper shot at staying up in 25/26 (in the Prem, obvs)

[123EasyasBFC]

He needs to come up with something else to talk about on American tv instead of trying to explain what a 'Benny and Hot' is for the sixth time.

Although fair play to him for 'building the brand' in the USA - the Benedictine brand that is.

I’m sure you will find room to throw a dig at JJ Watt talking about Benny n hot on the podcast

[Westleigh]

I think he's totally forgotten he's on his yacht in the canaries

Not at all just had a nice Chinese meal on The Golf ,looks like a Calima tommorow,would give it all up for our board to grow a pair and tell VK that it’s either shape up or ship out ,needs to forget his favourites and pick a team that might win.

[NewClaret]

I’m sure you will find room to throw a dig at JJ Watt talking about Benny n hot on the podcast

Don’t listen to the podcast given some of the comments on here I don’t think it’s be for me, but pretty glad if there is any criticism of JJ Watt for talking about Burnley or our traditions stateside.

[Vegas Claret]

My point is let’s keep the context.

impossible on here, too me knee jerkers.

[Vegas Claret]

He needs to come up with something else to talk about on American tv instead of trying to explain what a 'Benny and Hot' is for the sixth time.

Although fair play to him for 'building the brand' in the USA - the Benedictine brand that is.

Pretty sure at this point he's done far more for the club than you ever will. Like I said, unnecessarily petty.

[CrosspoolClarets]

I enjoy your posts CrosspoolClarets, and largely agree.

Appreciate it’s not easy when we’re losing a lot but there are a lot of green shoots. Sure, we’ll likely go down (I’ve not given up yet) but depending on how many players we can keep together, it might do us good for a proper shot at staying up in 25/26 (in the Prem, obvs)

Thanks. Coming from Burnley we go to the end - that’s what Kompany and Watt praise the town and area for, I assume genuinely, and they are right. So, yes, I’ve not given up yet either. The time I give up is the time they can nail the lid shut on top of me. What I see is a load of youngsters fighting hard and trying desperately to adapt quickly to this new level and get the wins we all need. Thinking we could have bought player A not player B doesn’t get us anywhere. Every team in the world can think that.

[JarrowClaret]

Thanks. Coming from Burnley we go to the end - that’s what Kompany and Watt praise the town and area for, I assume genuinely, and they are right. So, yes, I’ve not given up yet either. The time I give up is the time they can nail the lid shut on top of me. What I see is a load of youngsters fighting hard and trying desperately to adapt quickly to this new level and get the wins we all need. Thinking we could have bought player A not player B doesn’t get us anywhere. Every team in the world can think that.

I had pretty much given up but I don’t know what it is but I looked at our run in after Arsenal the other day and it is very favourable. Granted we have favourable runs before this season and cocked them up and there is no real form to suggest we can kick on but there is something in the back of my head saying it isn’t over yet!

[Goody1975]

Pretty sure at this point he's done far more for the club than you ever will. Like I said, unnecessarily petty.

Too many on here desperate for things to fail so they can say, I told you so.

[Vegas Claret]

Too many on here desperate for things to fail so they can say, I told you so.

it does seem that way, it's a shame but whatever floats their boat. I guess some people get a buzz off being negative.

[Goody1975]

it does seem that way, it's a shame but whatever floats their boat. I guess some people get a buzz off being negative.

Interviewed on the strip in Vegas by Sky Sports for their pre match coverage of the Superbowl. Again the interview starts with a discussion about Burnley.

Anyone questioning his motives has an agenda against him imo.

[Vegas Claret]

Interviewed on the strip in Vegas by Sky Sports for their pre match coverage of the Superbowl. Again the interview starts with a discussion about Burnley.

Anyone questioning his motives has an agenda against him imo.

Agree 100%. I genuinely don't enjoy calling people out for stuff, I've no problem with people being constructively critical of anything but the pettiness that can't be backed up is just lame as ****

[Vegas Claret]

and I'll just add, regardless of Burnley I think JJ and his Mrs come across as decent human beings and the world has a shortage of them at the moment

[Goody1975]

and I'll just add, regardless of Burnley I think JJ and his Mrs come across as decent human beings and the world has a shortage of them at the moment

Yes they do.

Think he loves coming across to Lancashire and part of the reason is how the fans have taken to him and his wife, well except for a small group of people who are desperate for him to become more scarce when the going gets tough.

[Vegas Claret]

Yes they do.

Think he loves coming across to Lancashire and part of the reason is how the fans have taken to him and his wife, well except for a small group of people who are desperate for him to become more scarce when the going gets tough.

yeah, their heads are going to explode when he turns up even more

[CoolClaret]

For the record I really like JJ and think he's doing a brilliant job in promotion of the Club.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Too many on here desperate for things to fail so they can say, I told you so.

There are some who have wanted things to fail since the takeover. They like the local club for local people mantra.

[CardyTheClaret]

"not to mention that squad last season had significant influence from Dyche's tenure"



"It's not like a brand new fresh start like it was in summer 2022."

I'm not saying you're making it up as you go along, but these two quotes from you are in the same post.

[CoolClaret]

I'm not saying you're making it up as you go along, but these two quotes from you are in the same post.

You know what I meant.

New direction, new manager - going down on a real whimper can linger. Certainly not a buzz of "we nearly stayed up last time, I think we can with another crack at it".

Have to notch more wins to get that same enthusiasm and belief.

[bumba]

Not sure how anybody can have issue with JJ Watt or his wife, I don't watch NFL so I'd never heard of him but he's been a breathe of fresh air. Up until this summer I had no issues with the takeover things off the field seemed to have improved but then everything on and off the field nosedived in the summer.
Food and drink went rubbish and costs a stupid amount, selection of transfers were baffling but don't know if that was all VK or split decisions.

[GavlarClaret]

I've gotten to know a Texan (online) the last few weeks and our conversation has got to JJ as he found out my team was Burnley....

He is loved by everyone there. His action to help the area out when it was hit by hurricane Harvey raised around $40million, and was done without the aim or expectation he would get anything in return. Publicity gained was solely to get more cash in the fund to help the people, not to raise his own profile. Rare in todays world!

He's selfless and one of life's good people - were lucky to have him involved at our club

[Foshiznik]

When talk of NFL players investing in our little Lancashire town club was first rumoured, i could not think of one player i would genuinely have wanted more to be involved than JJ Watt, just due to how great a human being he appeared to be from his work in Houston whilst playing for the Texans, particularly his work for families horrifically affected by Hurricane Harvey, military veterans, handicapped children and the Sandy Hook School shooting.

Having since become a minority owner, he's exceeded my expectations even more than i could have possibly imagined. Anyone who feels the need to criticise him really does need to educate themselves on his previous work and give themselves a really long shake.

[GavlarClaret]

Seeing him taking it all in perched on the top of one of the buses for our Champions parade through Burnley Centre was surreal knowing what an icon he is in the NFL/US!

One of many masterstrokes Mr Pace has pulled put since he's been at the helm in my opinion

[NewClaret]

Really good to read some widespread positive comments on something BFC-related on here.

For me, I still struggle to believe he’s invested in our little Lancashire club. His fame and reach in America is incredible, yet he has thrown himself in to supporting the club, engaged properly with the fans, speaks positively and professionally about us even in these hard times, and above all he and his wife seem like lovely people. We couldn’t have hoped for better ambassadors of the club and were incredibly lucky to have him.

Here I could draw comparisons with our neighbours fortunes, or the Brady/Birmingham investment but I won’t, save to say many clubs would rightly be very envious of our position and we shouldn’t forget that.

For that reason I cannot understand why we get snide remarks about how many times he’s mentioned Bene n Hot on TV. He can mention it as many times as he likes. But I for one think story is probably reeled out because it underlines something unique about our club - that it has its own drink and one we a story dating back to the world war(s) and that history might be something Americans find interesting.

Some people also seem to think it’s necessary to attach a tangible financial value to his involvement, often citing US viewing figures or merch sales as signs of him adding value or his involvement paying dividends. For me that’s just a positive side effect if it ever happens. Far more important is our profile being raised by a universally well-liked and respected sportsman, and his advice and experience he can offer our investor group in the boardroom, and I very much doubt the club expect or care about whether that translates financially at all.

Whether he remains a claret for life, 5 years, another month, whatever - we should enjoy having him as part of our fanbase while he’s around.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Seeing him taking it all in perched on the top of one of the buses for our Champions parade through Burnley Centre was surreal knowing what an icon he is in the NFL/US!

One of many masterstrokes Mr Pace has pulled put since he's been at the helm in my opinion

A lot of attention is always on things going backwards or where over promise has led to under delivery (catering etc).

But as you rightly say there are some really good things too. I like the modernisation of the stadium with LED signage. I like the profile JJ and others have given us (though Dude Perfect seem to have gone quiet). I like the investment committed in players. I like the taking the lead in meeting like last week’s EFL meeting. So much still needs improving but credit where it is due on all that and they currently have my full support, as does Kompany.

[CoolClaret]

This thread has gone off on a tangent now - I don't think any Claret has been critical of JJ's involvement has there?

I was wondering/curious just how involved in the future planning he is - I think it's more than some think on here and I think he's more involved than when he initial joined on board, though I could be wrong there.

[agreenwood]

This thread has gone off on a tangent now - I don't think any Claret has been critical of JJ's involvement has there?

Just forzagranata’s post I think, which suggested he’s not bringing much to the table except repetitive stories about what Bene n Hot is.

[Big Vinny K]

Just forzagranata’s post I think, which suggested he’s not bringing much to the table except repetitive stories about what Bene n Hot is.

Tbf he is not the only one who has been negative about JJ Watt on this board. Maybe not on this thread but others have mentioned the bene n hot thing before and also been negative about other things in relation to Watt.

It is just the minority though - and they are entitled to their view.

Personally I think anybody who speaks about our club, the town and its people in such a positive way is a good thing. The fact that it is someone as famous and with the global reach of JJ Watt is even better. I don’t think some people realise how big this guy is (and I don’t mean in size !!). I doubt there has ever been anybody in our history as big and well known as him talk about our club and town like he has.

[123EasyasBFC]

I’m happy for JJ Watt to mention the bene n hot story as much as he wants.

It’s only like everyone else who goes on multiple podcasts and repeat the same stories over and over again.

Was there a podcast dyche wasn’t on after his sacking, heard the spin the wheel story and a player giving another play a lap dance over and over again.

It’s just what happens, things get repeated

[Swizzlestick]

It’s not even like he went on a tangent about it. He mentioned it in passing about why he likes Burnley as both a club and town in response to the rather dismissive presenter who was aghast he didn’t choose somewhere in London to support. It was her who then asked what the drink was and he explained.

I have no interest in NFL and so knew nothing about JJ Watt before his involvement with us, but I think he’s been a credit to the football club.

[NewClaret]

This thread has gone off on a tangent now - I don't think any Claret has been critical of JJ's involvement has there?

I was wondering/curious just how involved in the future planning he is - I think it's more than some think on here and I think he's more involved than when he initial joined on board, though I could be wrong there.

To be honest though, it is not like anyone on here can give an informed answer to that question. So I’ll speculate:

I think he’s a fairly minor investor, but likely the most invested.

He’s also a professional sportsman and elite athlete so I think in the boardroom he will have other investors respect, offer different perspectives to their natural standpoints, and in general be a bigger/more influential voice relative to his shareholding.

Personally though, he comes across as a really sensible and level-headed guy. Ambitious but realistic. I’m hugely reassured that Pace was able to convince an obviously very clever guy to invest in his plan and also that he’s now in the boardroom offering his advice in these more challenging times.

[CoolClaret]

To be honest though, it is not like anyone on here can give an informed answer to that question. So I’ll speculate:

I think he’s a fairly minor investor, but likely the most invested.

He’s also a professional sportsman and elite athlete so I think in the boardroom he will have other investors respect, offer different perspectives to their natural standpoints, and in general be a bigger/more influential voice relative to his shareholding.

Personally though, he comes across as a really sensible and level-headed guy. Ambitious but realistic. I’m hugely reassured that Pace was able to convince an obviously very clever guy to invest in his plan and also that he’s now in the boardroom offering his advice in these more challenging times.

Yeah I like him a lot - he's seen it all as well (albeit in a different sport), season ending injuries, seasonal awards, playing in huge games etc.

I just think his role is a bit more pronounced now than it was when he first came on board. Of course no-one knows for sure, I was just speculating/asking for other posters' thoughts.

[forzagranata]

By all accounts JJ is a great guy and comes over well on television. I've no problem at all with him. He's a big name in American sport and was a tremendous NFL player.

It is amusing that merely the suggestion that he might want to mix up his patter from talking about Bene and Hot, is enough to set the Pacebots off into howls of outrage.

[IanMcL]

Interviewed on the strip in Vegas by Sky Sports for their pre match coverage of the Superbowl. Again the interview starts with a discussion about Burnley.

Anyone questioning his motives has an agenda against him imo.

We owe him loads for what he does to promote our club.

[Westleigh]

Interviewed on the strip in Vegas by Sky Sports for their pre match coverage of the Superbowl. Again the interview starts with a discussion about Burnley.

Anyone questioning his motives has an agenda against him imo.

Fully agree with you Goody ,but all have a sudden anyone who calls anyone suddenly has an agenda ,when did this phrase rear its ugly head?

[Jakubclaret]

We owe him loads for what he does to promote our club.

He's promoting his investment which I don't have a problem with because that's the only way he'll get a return & he'd be foolish not to. It's good to be grounded about his intentions because his endeavours will be mutually beneficial there have to be if we don't gain he doesn't.

[Goody1975]

Fully agree with you Goody ,but all have a sudden anyone who calls anyone suddenly has an agenda ,when did this phrase rear its ugly head?

There were some who were grinding their teeth when he was on the open top bus.

Their thought process was that he's been here two minutes and will run for the hills when the going gets tough.

Many nail their colours to the mast early on this board and keep the powder dry until they have an opportunity to use it.

[Enola Gay]

It is amusing that merely the suggestion that he might want to mix up his patter from talking about Bene and Hot, is enough to set the Pacebots off into howls of outrage.

'Pacebots'.

Jesus wept...

[Vegas Claret]

'Pacebots'.

Jesus wept...

never a good look when someone can't take constructive criticism but he seemingly can't on this.

[AlargeClaret]

He was at the Orient game ! You weren’t there man you wouldn’t understand !!

[forzagranata]

We owe him loads for what he does to promote our club.

Franky it was a disgrace he didn’t get a medal for his role in last season’s title campaign.

I felt for him standing on the open top bus with his team-mates and the Championship trophy but no medal.

Maybe we should petition the EFL to right this wrong?