Lyle Foster

[Westleigh]

Some horrible comments on Twitter or X or what ever they call about Lyle Foster ,SA FA talking about suing him and other crap comments .

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

I hope that isn’t what kept him out yesterday, a relapse in his MH.

[Goliath]

There has been a worrying lack of info as to why he was missing. Not heard Kompany comment on it which is strange when your star striker misses a game.

[basil6345789]

"Injured, it said

[Nori1958]

Some horrible comments on Twitter or X or what ever they call about Lyle Foster ,SA FA talking about suing him and other crap comments .

People making crap comments about a burnley player, sound familiar?
In all seriousness though there have been awful comments from south African fans since it was announced he wasn't going.. They just don't get it

[Nori1958]

There has been a worrying lack of info as to why he was missing. Not heard Kompany comment on it which is strange when your star striker misses a game.

Kompany said a muscle problem, quite widely reported

[ClaretTony]

I hope that isn’t what kept him out yesterday, a relapse in his MH.

I can confirm that Foster was out yesterday with an injury

[Goliath]

Kompany said a muscle problem, quite widely reported

Ok thanks, i've managed to miss that.

[dermotdermot]

Yes I read the comments. Turned up on Facebook. Truly horrible people making terrible comments. I never read of one Burnley fan running him down for missing crucial games for us. We were all very sympathetic.

[Benson]

Some horrible comments on Twitter or X or what ever they call about Lyle Foster ,SA FA talking about suing him and other crap comments .

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Did you join in ?

[Boss Hogg]

The world of social media for you. I’m sure the people posting nasty comments will have all kind of issues. Their social media accounts probably look great though.

[TheFamilyCat]

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Did you join in ?

No, he was too busy doing his admin duties on all his I Hate James Trafford pages.

[HalifaxClaret]

I can confirm that Foster was out yesterday with an injury

Phew, glad you clarified that. I didn't believe Kompany.

[Westleigh]

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Did you join in ?

Can’t believe you’ve said that ,after 3 games into the season I predicted they Lyle would get at least a dozen goals this season ,and to suggest I would criticise a guy whose gone through what Lyle’s gone through is abhorrent ,and you sir are a **** .

[Westleigh]

No, he was too busy doing his admin duties on all his I Hate James Trafford pages.

Another poster telling lies ,find a post where I said I hated JT ,I can’t believe when a post a commented about how a country is attacking one of our players you suddenly make an
attack on me ,what has this got to do with Trafford,are you hoping I’m telling lies and I’m slagging Foster off.

[Cooclaret]

Phew, glad you clarified that. I didn't believe Kompany.

Brilliant!

[Westleigh]

I presume the admin on this board is here to protect posters as well as reprimand them when going to far ,but when I’m attacked by The FamilyCat and Benson for posting a comment supporting our striker being personally attacked by his country and his countrymen it’s a bit rich there aren’t any consequences to the previously mentioned posters.

[ClaretTony]

Phew, glad you clarified that. I didn't believe Kompany.

All Kompany would say about Foster was that he struggled during the week with an injury that he wouldn’t disclose

[Benson]

Can’t believe you’ve said that ,after 3 games into the season I predicted they Lyle would get at least a dozen goals this season ,and to suggest I would criticise a guy whose gone through what Lyle’s gone through is abhorrent ,and you sir are a **** .

Whereas you sir are an insufferable bore.

[Westleigh]

Whereas you sir are an insufferable bore.

Why did you have to have a dig when I posted a genuine post about one of our players whose been under severe mental pressure being attacked by his country?

[Benson]

Why did you have to have a dig when I posted a genuine post about one of our players whose been under severe mental pressure being attacked by his country?

Maybe you should think about that before starting your next Trafford is sh1t thread.

[Westleigh]

Maybe you should think about that before starting your next Trafford is sh1t thread.

The post about Foster is fact ,but you have to try and stick the knife into someone who has a different opinion ,if I say it’s Monday tommorow will you say that’s incorrect because I don’t think Trafford is good enough,stick to the facts please.

[Darthlaw]

And yet you post dross like the following about Trafford (one of our players who is struggling at the minute)

the outfield players must be so ****** off watching him mess up game after game.

And this about Trafford being at someone’s house after drowning his sorrows following his Liverpool performance

Any chance he can keep him there until the end of the season ?

One rule for Foster and one for Trafford, Westleigh? Or just more fun to bully a kid?

[Westleigh]

And yet you post dross like the following about Trafford (one of our players who is struggling at the minute)



And this about Trafford being at someone’s house after drowning his sorrows following his Liverpool performance



One rule for Foster and one for Trafford, Westleigh? Or just more fun to bully a kid?

This is a board of opinions it’s not in the mainstream media like the comments about Foster.

[Westleigh]

Can’t believe it’s become a vendetta by ‘we love Trafford supporters’ on a post about Lyle Foster and the South African media.

[Darthlaw]

It’s a board of opinions Westleigh, no vendettas here.

You clutch them pearls, though. Folk can draw their own conclusions.

[Westleigh]

It’s a board of opinions Westleigh, no vendettas here.

You clutch them pearls, though

The last few comments have been nothing to do with peoples opinions about the topic which was about The South African people and Fa criticism of Lyle Foster ,it was a dig at my views on Trafford ,and I’m allowed an opinion as much as the posters having a dig at me ,and apparently all the posters that don’t rate Trafford are told they have an agenda or vendetta against him ,and I post a reasonable unbiased comment and I’m attacked as a Trafford hater ,so that’s not a vendetta against the fans who don’t think Traffords good enough,it appears there’s one law for Trafford fans ,and another for the anyone but Trafford fans.



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[Benson]

The last few comments have been nothing to do with peoples opinions about the topic which was about The South African people and Fa criticism of Lyle Foster ,it was a dig at my views on Trafford ,and I’m allowed an opinion as much as the posters having a dig at me ,and apparently all the posters that don’t rate Trafford are told they have an agenda or vendetta against him ,and I post a reasonable unbiased comment and I’m attacked as a Trafford hater ,so that’s not a vendetta against the fans who don’t think Traffords good enough,it appears there’s one law for Trafford fans ,and another for the anyone but Trafford fans.



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There’s plenty of posters on here that don’t think Trafford is ready for the Premier League, including me, but unlike you they don’t start numerous threads criticising him. This is where “not rating him” starts to look like an “agenda”

[CharlieinNewMexico]

MOD: Post attacking both another poster and board admin has been removed. Poster suspended for a day.

[Quickenthetempo]

Sadly, South Africa is where Great Britain was 20 years ago, in lacking understanding of Mental Health.

[Rowls]

Sadly, South Africa is where Great Britain was 20 years ago, in lacking understanding of Mental Health.

Where we were 20 years ago in Britain was that depression was when your brain "went wrong" and the "cure" for this was to take chemicals manufactured by multinational pharmaceutical companies.

Since then, study after study has demonstrated the link between lifestyle factors and depression and othe MH problems.

It has also been proven that SSRI drugs are only the tiniest margin better than placebos and come with a host of very nasty potential side effects and the risk of dependency whilst doing nothing to address the underlying problems behind most MH problems.

I haven't seen the social media posts in question but there should always be room for understanding and kindness in the way we help people with MH problems.

However, at least the focus in terms of MH is now facing the right direction: our solutions to MH problems need to be person-centred, not drug-centred.

[Quickenthetempo]

Where we were 20 years ago in Britain was that depression was when your brain "went wrong" and the "cure" for this was to take chemicals manufactured by multinational pharmaceutical companies.

Since then, study after study has demonstrated the link between lifestyle factors and depression and othe MH problems.

It has also been proven that SSRI drugs are only the tiniest margin better than placebos and come with a host of very nasty potential side effects and the risk of dependency whilst doing nothing to address the underlying problems behind most MH problems.

I haven't seen the social media posts in question but there should always be room for understanding and kindness in the way we help people with MH problems.

However, at least the focus in terms of MH is now facing the right direction: our solutions to MH problems need to be person-centred, not drug-centred.

I was more thinking about the 'Get on it with it' attitude.

If you didn't need sectioning, you were fine. There was no in between.

Thankfully attitudes changed.

[Westleigh]

Where we were 20 years ago in Britain was that depression was when your brain "went wrong" and the "cure" for this was to take chemicals manufactured by multinational pharmaceutical companies.

Since then, study after study has demonstrated the link between lifestyle factors and depression and othe MH problems.

It has also been proven that SSRI drugs are only the tiniest margin better than placebos and come with a host of very nasty potential side effects and the risk of dependency whilst doing nothing to address the underlying problems behind most MH problems.

I haven't seen the social media posts in question but there should always be room for understanding and kindness in the way we help people with MH problems.

However, at least the focus in terms of MH is now facing the right direction: our solutions to MH problems need to be person-centred, not drug-centred.

The posts didn’t talk about Foster’s depression ,they were basically just slagging him off because he didn’t play and although Foster had written to the SA football authorities they kind of implied that they didn’t receive it.

[Rowls]

I was more thinking about the 'Get on it with it' attitude.

If you didn't need sectioning, you were fine. There was no in between.

Thankfully attitudes changed.

There's more thought and care taken about the language we use these days. I post much more carefully on this subject than on other topics but the underlying message is the same: you have the ability to exercise a lot of control over your mental health as much you do with your physical health.

There is a fine line between "get on with it" and "do these things to help improve your mental health" and it's probably only a matter on we choose to word it.

Jdrobbo started a great initiative with his "Mile for Lyle" posts here and other platforms. It wouldn't have worked if he'd named it carelessly or callously but even though the supportive language is an essential part of what made "Mile for Lyle" successful there is a bottom line that action is necessary.

We're all mammalian animals and we need to be active and busy. The message of being active that lays behind what could (but probably should not) be termed "get on with it" can't be dismissed, even if uncaring language 100% can be.

[ŽižkovClaret]

Honestly Lyle could well end up saying "sod the lot of you" and retire from international football

[LDNBFC87]

I briefly worked for a SA tech company, tasked with setting up their sales team in the UK. After a trip to meet the leadership team in J'burg I came home and got a job elsewhere. They have a deeply unpleasant and backwards work culture. It seems this also applies to their national sports teams.

[Burnley1989]

I briefly worked for a SA tech company, tasked with setting up their sales team in the UK. After a trip to meet the leadership team in J'burg I came home and got a job elsewhere. They have a deeply unpleasant and backwards work culture. It seems this also applies to their national sports teams.

I've South African family so I'm careful with my opinions, but I certainly couldn't work there, as mentioned they're still in the dark ages with some of their views, and when it comes to racism I'm extremely uncomfortable when its being discussed as they genuinely don't realise what they are saying is so wrong.
I remember once cooking Christmas dinner for 17 whilst over there, and some of the extended family that spoke very little English, picked up their table and carried it to the bottom of the garden to eat under a tree in the shade, not one of them acknowledged me all day despite being our guests, it was bizarre and funny looking back.
That being said, some of my mates and older family member's will say things that belong in the dark ages and pass it 0off as a joke, but over in SA its seen as fact and deeply rooted.

[FCBurnley]

I just hope we can get him back playing on a regular basis. This would be best for all concerned especially Lyle. However bringing him back too early would have the opposite effect. Good luck Lyle

[Woodleyclaret]

Re International players Aaron Ramsay Bale and Giggs all cried off from Welsh national team trips they didn't fancy like Malta and Lithuania away
Yet the Welsh FA didn't start abusing them
Lyle is vital to our season and club football is more important than any International as often its friendlies. The current four International breaks are far too many.We tell SA that Lyle is not available for any games before June.

[ŽižkovClaret]

Re International players Aaron Ramsay Bale and Giggs all cried off from Welsh national team trips they didn't fancy like Malta and Lithuania away
Yet the Welsh FA didn't start abusing them
Lyle is vital to our season and club football is more important than any International as often its friendlies. The current four International breaks are far too many.We tell SA that Lyle is not available for any games before June.

Tbf this was a tournament for South Africa, the aforementioned Welsh players usually missed friendly internationals.

It's not a valid comparison imo. The difficulty we have is that, in our opinion, and the opinion of his medical professionals, he was not fit to go, however as the "fitness" issue was mental, and not physical, we are wide open to sniping from certain ignorant Saffers.

[Darthlaw]

I havent seen anything particularly incendiary from official channels.

Namely one guy from the South African FA who states 'I don’t know the details why it was not possible for him to play for his club and not his country. We would have to investigate whether, if it was the club or himself'.

I've seen the SA coach having a bit of a hissy because Kompany told him he wouldnt be ready but selected him anyway. 'So our doctor had contact with the doctors at Burnley. I got the medical report where it stated it was impossible and I repeat it was impossible for Foster to be at Afcon and this is medical. Don’t ask me why but the risk and the dangers are still there that if it goes in a bad direction with Lyle he goes back to where he started three months ago. I was also surprised to see last weekend that he played again, but, this is a medical decision, it’s not my decision,”

I don't read much into that other than (to a degree understandably) they didnt get why he was fit to play for Burnley but not SA. I imagine we'd be asking the same if the shoe was on the other foot.

I guess the nasty stuff is just down to the usual cesspit that is Twitter/x?

[Goliath]

I havent seen anything particularly incendiary from official channels.

Namely one guy from the South African FA who states 'I don’t know the details why it was not possible for him to play for his club and not his country. We would have to investigate whether, if it was the club or himself'.

I've seen the SA coach having a bit of a hissy because Kompany told him he wouldnt be ready but selected him anyway. 'So our doctor had contact with the doctors at Burnley. I got the medical report where it stated it was impossible and I repeat it was impossible for Foster to be at Afcon and this is medical. Don’t ask me why but the risk and the dangers are still there that if it goes in a bad direction with Lyle he goes back to where he started three months ago. I was also surprised to see last weekend that he played again, but, this is a medical decision, it’s not my decision,”

I don't read much into that other than (to a degree understandably) they didnt get why he was fit to play for Burnley but not SA. I imagine we'd be asking the same if the shoe was on the other foot.

I guess the nasty stuff is just down to the usual cesspit that is Twitter/x?

To be fair, I do think thry have a right to obtain the full information. I think it was a bit unclear as to who made the decision in the end, the club or the player.
If it was the club against the players wishes then it probably opens a can of worms with the South African FA

[ŽižkovClaret]

To be fair, I do think thry have a right to obtain the full information. I think it was a bit unclear as to who made the decision in the end, the club or the player.
If it was the club against the players wishes then it probably opens a can of worms with the South African FA

Honestly, im sure the appropriate people have seen the relevant info. Its just gobshites on twitter and other rent-a-gobs piping up. It remains disappointing that Ian Wright was among those questioning Lyle and the club's stance.

[Goliath]

Honestly, im sure the appropriate people have seen the relevant info. Its just gobshites on twitter and other rent-a-gobs piping up. It remains disappointing that Ian Wright was among those questioning Lyle and the club's stance.

I wqs responding to the comment about the Soith African FA. Random opinions on twitter dont really interest me too much.

[KRBFC]

So it’s not ok for non BFC fans online to talk about Lyle but it’s ok for a supposed BFC fan to annihilate Trafford online daily. Got it