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Your tactical approach

Post by JLR81 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:25 am

Obviously no-one here will ever be a pro manager... but how would you approach today's match, if you were in charge?

Ten men behind the ball throughout, and try to nick something?

Balls to the wall, nothing to lose, attack for the first 20mins and see what happens?

Or a bit of both?

Very tight and defensive first 45mins, make sure it's not over by half time.

Try to get to the hour mark at 0-0, then go for it. If we're still level by 80mins, everyone behind the ball again because a point vs this Arsenal team is a great result, although admittedly it won't help us too much.

Getting the players to believe in themselves at this stage of the season must be very difficult.

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by Cooclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:38 am

I’m not a coach, but, hypothetically…

Low block won’t work, their players are too good at playing in those spaces.

Got to match their midfield overload via their fullback coming in. So I’m going 4-5-1 with Cullen in as an extra and Andouni out.

I’d play a CB deeper when they have sustained pressure in our half, something like an old fashioned sweeper, rather than a flat back, as I can see us sat deeper than normal.

I’d leave Ramsey to burn himself for sixty harassing then replace him. I’d ask Brownhill to man mark MO.

I think this will be a draw. Trafford will be great, his previous weeks of pressure under the high ball won’t be threatened as much.

I hope Taylor is back, we need that kind of limited fullback to play up against Saka.

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by Westleigh » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:01 am

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:38 am
I’m not a coach, but, hypothetically…

Low block won’t work, their players are too good at playing in those spaces.

Got to match their midfield overload via their fullback coming in. So I’m going 4-5-1 with Cullen in as an extra and Andouni out.

I’d play a CB deeper when they have sustained pressure in our half, something like an old fashioned sweeper, rather than a flat back, as I can see us sat deeper than normal.

I’d leave Ramsey to burn himself for sixty harassing then replace him. I’d ask Brownhill to man mark MO.

I think this will be a draw. Trafford will be great, his previous weeks of pressure under the high ball won’t be threatened as much.

I hope Taylor is back, we need that kind of limited fullback to play up against Saka.
You may be wrong about Trafford not being under pressure from the high ball ,Arsenal are the highest scorers from headers in the league.

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by No Ney Never » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:07 am

Match them for pace, close them down at the earliest opportunity, play your A game, retain possession, take your chances, don't give silly free kicks and don't fall for their enticement in our penalty box.

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by bfcjg » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:11 am

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by dougcollins » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:28 am

Sit back and we’ll end up like West Ham.

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by expoultryboy » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:44 am

Get into em

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:48 am

Trying to set up primarily to nullify Arsenal would be futile, imo.

Just have to play our best defenders of set pieces and those that can create goals from nothing.

I would match their 3 in the middle though, Cullen/Massengo in for Amdouni, Benson would get the last 35 mins off the right hand side.

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:04 am

I would put 3 in the middle berge brownhill massengo and drop amdouni. We cannot afford those luxury’s today. Fofana up the top with odobert and JBL on the wings to hit them on the break with pace. I would play the same back line as last week but Taylor back in if fit. The full backs would be instructed to not be too adventurous and the GK would be instructed not to try anything stupid and focus on doing the basics well.

With that in mind I’d go

Muric (but it will be JT)

Assignon O’Shea esteve taylor

Berge massengo brownhill

JBL. Fofana. Odobert
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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:10 am

tigers on chains released from undersoil pits just beneath the half way line (like the Colosseum)
five minute pitch invasions by ^just stop oil* and save the whale types,
mandatory wearing of blindfolds for opposition players rule to be sanctioned at 3pm today by premier league.

if all above fail . bfcjg photo from previous post must be implemented.

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:15 am

Keep toe-ending it upfield and hope to keep it
down to three. :|

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by Pickles » Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:53 am

expoultryboy wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:44 am
Get into em
This team couldn't get into a packet of crisps.

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by spt_claret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:48 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:04 am
I would put 3 in the middle berge brownhill massengo and drop amdouni. We cannot afford those luxury’s today. Fofana up the top with odobert and JBL on the wings to hit them on the break with pace. I would play the same back line as last week but Taylor back in if fit. The full backs would be instructed to not be too adventurous and the GK would be instructed not to try anything stupid and focus on doing the basics well.

With that in mind I’d go

Muric (but it will be JT)

Assignon O’Shea esteve taylor

Berge massengo brownhill

JBL. Fofana. Odobert
Exactly what I'd go with, except maybe Gudmundsson for Massengo if fit, and obviously Foster for Fofana if fit. Been saying all season we've got the personnel for a 433 fast-breaking counter attacking team, orthodox wingbacks, a keeper who can break lines, and solid CBs with decent midrange passing (I'd still like to see Ekdal RCB and Beyer LCB with Muric behind at this level, at least once, to see if it can work as well as last year).
Try and minimise their aerial/setpiece presence with the defensive/keeper selection, extra body in the middle to keep things tighter, focus on fast breaks down the flanks with a mobile centre forward.
I think we tried a 433 once very early on, as well as a 343/541 against City maybe. We're not winning possession as it is often so going for a fast aggressive counter attack would make sense to me.

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by Clive 1960 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:39 pm

long boot and get after it at least you get in there half , only joking, just try and play to your best of your ability and give it a real shot because what have we to lose.. UTC.

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:59 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:48 pm
Exactly what I'd go with, except maybe Gudmundsson for Massengo if fit, and obviously Foster for Fofana if fit. Been saying all season we've got the personnel for a 433 fast-breaking counter attacking team, orthodox wingbacks, a keeper who can break lines, and solid CBs with decent midrange passing (I'd still like to see Ekdal RCB and Beyer LCB with Muric behind at this level, at least once, to see if it can work as well as last year).
Try and minimise their aerial/setpiece presence with the defensive/keeper selection, extra body in the middle to keep things tighter, focus on fast breaks down the flanks with a mobile centre forward.
I think we tried a 433 once very early on, as well as a 343/541 against City maybe. We're not winning possession as it is often so going for a fast aggressive counter attack would make sense to me.
It’s how I thought we would play at the start of the season
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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:05 pm

Declan Rice alone cost pretty much the same as our entire team, so whilst there should be some perspective I didn't see any fight at all and that can't be allowed at any level in a Burnley shirt

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:08 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:05 pm
Declan Rice alone cost pretty much the same as our entire team, so whilst there should be some perspective I didn't see any fight at all and that can't be allowed at any level in a Burnley shirt
We've played him before plenty of times like!

I'm more bothered about how unenjoyable we are to watch now, just no purpose with our play.

Not arsed about losing, just want to see them have a good go and at least try and take on the opposition.

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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:11 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:08 pm
We've played him before plenty of times like!

I'm more bothered about how unenjoyable we are to watch now, just no purpose with our play.

Not arsed about losing, just want to see them have a good go and at least try and take on the opposition.
I'll ALWAYS support a group of lads that put a shift in, they can't do anything about the gap in quality but that 5th goal from the throw in, nah mate I'm not having that - that's one of the worst goals I've ever seen us concede.
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Re: Your tactical approach

Post by ClaretinJapan » Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:14 pm

Due to the time difference, my tactical approach this season is to just watch the lowlights, as watching us for the entire game is unbearable and time consuming.

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