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VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:30 pm


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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by helmclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:38 pm

- won’t dwell on this result
- last 10-15 games have seen us improve but that wasn’t good enough
- people will write us off but the players, fans and staff need to stick with it
- will build energy levels back up for next Sat
- too early to comment on Ramsey injury

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:47 pm

A question might have been why Jayrod wasn't in the starting line up with Fofana and Ramsey benched.
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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Blatherwickstattoo » Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:48 pm

He talks more shite than dyche did.
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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:53 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:47 pm
A question might have been why Jayrod wasn't in the starting line up with Fofana and Ramsey benched.
Cause he’s shite.

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by CleggHall » Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:56 pm

Can still front up notwithstanding. Little else he could say on a dark day when his team didn’t turn up.

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:57 pm

We need a couple of shithouses in the side to educate the others and give them a shake

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:58 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:57 pm
We need a couple of shithouses in the side to educate the others and give them a shake
Oh for a modern day John Deary!

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Carlos the Great » Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:17 pm

It’s becoming apparent he is running out of things to say .. we move on to the next game he said , but never mentioned how that would win the game /. We have 12 points from 25 games .. that’s awful stats
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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:36 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:53 pm
Cause he’s shite.
Jay Rod going in for a few 50/50s was probably the highlight of our game today. I'd honestly pick him on that basis alone ahead of some of the others at present.
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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:40 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:17 pm
It’s becoming apparent he is running out of things to say .. we move on to the next game he said , but never mentioned how that would win the game /. We have 12 points from 25 games .. that’s awful stats
13 you mad guy!
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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Vim Fuego » Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:43 pm

He is full of hot air. Week after week

If you don't see this you are deluded

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by JR1882 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:18 pm

Vim Fuego wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:43 pm
He is full of hot air. Week after week

If you don't see this you are deluded
100% my feeling - Can’t believe Pace is falling for it week after week to be honest.
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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by bobinho » Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:20 pm

We desperately need a captain.
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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:21 pm

I’m not interested in what he says.

I want to see some action on the pitch, show us you are seeing the obvious things that we all see.

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:22 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:36 pm
Jay Rod going in for a few 50/50s was probably the highlight of our game today. I'd honestly pick him on that basis alone ahead of some of the others at present.
The invigorated the crowd and the team, with that double tackle. A proper Burnley player.
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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:24 pm

Without a leader on the pitch, and without the experience needed at this level, we really are on a hiding to nothing.
I don't feel sorry for him, as he bears most of the responsibility for where we are, but there really is precious little that he can say that will make a difference or assuage the fans.
Slagging these young lads off in public, would do more harm than good.
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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:30 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:24 pm
Without a leader on the pitch, and without the experience needed at this level, we really are on a hiding to nothing.
I don't feel sorry for him, as he bears most of the responsibility for where we are, but there really is precious little that he can say that will make a difference or assuage the fans.
Slagging these young lads off in public, would do more harm than good.
He doesn’t need to slag them off in interviews - he just needs to drop them from the starting XI.

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by TsarBomba » Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:53 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:30 pm
He doesn’t need to slag them off in interviews - he just needs to drop them from the starting XI.
I don’t think dropping players serves a purpose now. VK has firmly nailed his colours to the new boys, and he has to stick with them. He’s probably hoping that the PL experience will prove beneficial for next season, but it’s a dangerous game because he is completely destroying their confidence at the same time, and running the risk of there being a real hangover going into next season.

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:55 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:30 pm
He doesn’t need to slag them off in interviews - he just needs to drop them from the starting XI.
ok, what's your starting 11 now and how do you think it will change things ?

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by TsarBomba » Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:09 pm

https://x.com/bbclancssport/status/1758 ... Gkg4Pp-4vg

Radio Lancs interview- few more pointed questions being asked than I’ve seen.
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Post by Westleigh » Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:22 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:09 pm
https://x.com/bbclancssport/status/1758 ... Gkg4Pp-4vg

Radio Lancs interview- few more pointed questions being asked than I’ve seen.
Well done Radio Lancs asking about the likes of Benson not getting a game Kompany telling lies saying there’s a lot of players from last season and they’ve all been given a chance,starting to lose respect for this guy ,he talks about using his experience ,has he played or managed a team that are so far out of their depth ? probably not ,file along side Waddle,Rooney and Lampard.

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:04 pm

Talks like a man under no pressure from his employer. He should be under pressure to make change where needed and to acknowledge mistakes. Don’t buy into anything he says in these interviews anymore.

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Murger » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:09 pm

Why would he be under pressure when we apparently can’t vent our frustration on here or at the game?
VK just comes out with a load of horseshit, every single game. I can’t be arsed listening to him any more.

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:07 pm

Vim Fuego wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:43 pm
He is full of hot air. Week after week

If you don't see this you are deluded
what do you expect him to say? he is obliged to do interviews contractually.
Not easy to sound upbeat after a battering like that.
As for "hot air" what would you say to appease the fans and media?

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by warksclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:21 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:24 pm
Without a leader on the pitch, and without the experience needed at this level, we really are on a hiding to nothing.
I don't feel sorry for him, as he bears most of the responsibility for where we are, but there really is precious little that he can say that will make a difference or assuage the fans.
Slagging these young lads off in public, would do more harm than good.
Absolutely-you cannot criticise those not performing, but what you do is show it in your next week's selection and leave them out

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:38 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:58 pm
Oh for a modern day John Deary!
If only we didn’t let one leave in the summer

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:12 am

So vk said we need people to stick behind us. Not the whinging brats on here.

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Sheedyclaret » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:20 am

Didn’t attend today placed my time elsewhere what was the reaction at full time

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:58 am

TsarBomba wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:09 pm
https://x.com/bbclancssport/status/1758 ... Gkg4Pp-4vg

Radio Lancs interview- few more pointed questions being asked than I’ve seen.
😆 the state of him. He’s embarrassing.

Well done to the guy interviewing him.

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Benson » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:28 am

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:58 am
😆 the state of him. He’s embarrassing.

Well done to the guy interviewing him.

As embarrassing as an opposing fan on a rivals board purporting to be a fan?
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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Carlos the Great » Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:49 am

VK looked very awkward under a candid display of interviewing from Radio Lancs. I hope Pace is doing similar quizzing him on his team selection and tactics as well this morning and not letting him get off the hook so easily .When has Benson realistically been given a chance to show his ability this season ? Muric ? Has he had a chance either ? What about Zaroury ? … If we can’t beat Palace we can’t beat anyone and there must be serious questions asked soon about how he can move forward this team … I think the fairytale is over

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by Andreshotboots » Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:19 am

Gary Hunt doing the interview. Not only was he a very decent cricketer for Colne, he's a massive Claret so will be asking what many of us feel from the heart..
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Post by BigJay » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:21 am

VK has been given an easy ride with journos this season. His comments about Benson yesterday don't stack up. He says he's been given chance yet he's only started 1 game against Villa when the whole XI were poor, then

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:38 am

Andreshotboots wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:19 am
Gary Hunt doing the interview. Not only was he a very decent cricketer for Colne, he's a massive Claret so will be asking what many of us feel from the heart..
I preferred his brother Mike.

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Re: VK post match interview v Arsenal

Post by spt_claret » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:48 am

TsarBomba wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:09 pm
https://x.com/bbclancssport/status/1758 ... Gkg4Pp-4vg

Radio Lancs interview- few more pointed questions being asked than I’ve seen.
That does not fill me with hope at all.
-Not wanting to even talk about it.
-Insisting the basics are there and are right when they blatantly aren't.
-Talking about not focusing on individuals but the collective, when the collective isn't getting results.
-Saying everyone's been given a chance to prove themselves when that is just plain 100% untrue. Some players have been given repeat chances regardless of how they perform (Tresor, Ramsey, Trafford most notably, arguably Amdouni even if he is our joint top scorer), some have been given minimal or 1 chance if that (Zaroury, Ekdal, Benson) and some have been given literally 0 chances (Muric)

Yesterday I was saying I want to keep VK til November regardless. That interview has genuinely made me reconsider, because he's just not being honest at all, with himself or with the fans. I know it's a step up and a learning curve but that doesn't sound like someone who is learning, worryingly sounds like someone who might not even want to learn.

I can't believe he's actually claiming everyone's been given a fair crack to prove themselves or that we've got the fundamentals right. We're an attacking minded possession-oriented team who lose the possession battle more than not and don't create many shooting opportunities, with a world-class CB for a manager whose defence cannot defend.
45% average possession, calculatd on number of passes attempted though not time on the ball, ranked 13th. Sounds okay until you remember Kompany's philosophy is very much a Guardiola-inspired possession centric style- he's claimed he's not changed his philosophy from last season, if that's true that's an objective failure on this metric.
We're ranked 12th for touches, but- 3rd for defensive penalty area touches, 6th for defensive third touches, 13th for midfield third touches, 17th for attacking third, 19th for attacking pen- we basically only have the ball in our own box/third and the only reason we're even where we are for possession is defensive third passes.
11th for takeon attempts, 12th for successes (behind Luton for both actually) so we have players who like to dribble and are mid table at it.
12th for carries, carry distance, progressive carries.
12th for receiving passes, 16th for progressive receiving. These sets of stats look okay in a vacuum, but only if you assume every team plays the same style. If every team was attempting the same approach sure we have decent mid table fundamentals. But teams aren't. The teams that are attempting this style are way at the top of the leaderboard. Teams that attempt a more direct, less steady-passing-oriented, style are ranking above us.

The basics are not there, they are only there if you ignore reality and look at the stats while pretending every single team in the league has the same playing style as us- it's what makes it hard to say if our current playstyle even IS still a Guardiola-esque, steady passing or a mixed approach or what, because it's consistently not working. We've seen Trafford go long more the last 10 games but he's still deployed constantly for passes. We've switched to 442 but it's not a Dyche style physical direct 442, or even early Dyche style, fast breaking counter attack Vings/Vokes & Gray era 442.

I can't see how he can claim everyones had a fair chance to play or that the basics are there, with a straight face. He can't honestly believe that.

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