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Re: Cowards

Post by warksclaret » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:41 am

Cowards is probably the wrong description-maybe we are lightweight and lacking quality. Who would have thought when we spent £100m in Summer that in February we would be being humiliated 5-0 and were bringing on the likes of JBG and Rodriguez. Morale must be rock bottom with players like Benson,Cullen, Cork, Muric. How long before our latest 3 recruits drop their heads. Maybe not too surprising Roberts, Zarourry and Benson so badly wanted to leave recently

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Re: Cowards

Post by Targetman » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 am

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:46 am
I’m in knots over it. Completely knotted out of my head watching them and trying to work out who’s at fault.
Coward is the completely wrong word to use here, and with hindsight you probably realise that now.
Just admit it and let it go.

As fans we are all frustrated with how things have gone this season, its been dreadful hasn't it.
It will also have been dreadful for these young lads, some of whom have come in from different countries and are being played most weeks and getting hammered by both our opponents and a lot of our own fans.

The current team are nowhere near what is required in the Premier League but that doesn't make them cowards.
This is Vincent Kompany's team, as it was last season when he won all the plaudits, and rightly so, and he must now stand up and be counted and be open with the fans about his team selections all through this season.

I have never met or spoken to Kompany but he comes across to me as a very genuine person but I do wonder why at times he doesn't elaborate more about certain players and their selection/non selection?
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Re: Cowards

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:57 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:37 am
I'd argue today felt like it was the most in form Arsenal team we've played in the last decade. Doesn't hide our inadequacies but we weren't facing the 'normal' Arsenal, they are bang in form having won their first 5 games of the year for the first time in their history scoring 21 goals in the process. Every chance we will lose at Palace so I'm not using it as an excuse for us being bobbins though.
Absolutely. Arsenal, I'd argue, are favourites to win the league and, off today's showing, are a much better all-round side than Liverpool or City.
Their midfield is incredibly strong, the best of the lot.

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Re: Cowards

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:59 am

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:22 am
I labelled Trafford a coward a couple of weeks ago and was shot down by the usual crowd. Seems more and more people are finally waking up to what i’ve been telling them for months.
You reckon? :lol:

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Re: Cowards

Post by Clovius Boofus » Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:41 am

Jamesy wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:40 am
I think a better description would have been a softie? Mind you some people on here might take offence at calling someone soft in today’s current climate. :o
Why would anyone take offence when they can simply take a pill?

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Re: Cowards

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:06 pm

Yesterday the whole team played like a bunch of cowards. Not to say they can’t rectify if when they find their balls. It was just an observation of what I was watching .

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Re: Cowards

Post by Funkydrummer » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:29 pm

Demoralised I think is perhaps the most appropriate description.

With their limited experience, for the most part, they will have learnt
precious and invaluable lessons which should/may drive them on to achieve
their own goals in the future.

Let's not underestimate the value of the learning curve they've been on.
It's just unfortunate that it's been, to a large extent, at the fans expense
(both financially and enjoyment wise)

Keep the faith, at least for next season.

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Re: Cowards

Post by warksclaret » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:45 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:57 am
Absolutely. Arsenal, I'd argue, are favourites to win the league and, off today's showing, are a much better all-round side than Liverpool or City.
Their midfield is incredibly strong, the best of the lot.
Agreed a phenomenal club who have found form. However would Luton Town have rolled over like that yesterday at home ????

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Re: Cowards

Post by dandeclaret » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:47 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:57 am
Absolutely. Arsenal, I'd argue, are favourites to win the league and, off today's showing, are a much better all-round side than Liverpool or City.
Their midfield is incredibly strong, the best of the lot.
Great news…. You’ve found the investment opportunity of the year, because Arsenal are actually 4/1 3rd favourites for the league…..
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Re: Cowards

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:48 pm

He wouldn't really argue Arsenal are favourites for the league, to be fair. He was just lying.

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Re: Cowards

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:49 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:06 pm
Yesterday the whole team played like a bunch of cowards. Not to say they can’t rectify if when they find their balls. It was just an observation of what I was watching .
I didn't see many cowards yesterday, especially the 1st half having gone 1 down that early, we kept going, they are just a better team

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Re: Cowards

Post by Jamesy » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:49 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:47 pm
Great news…. You’ve found the investment opportunity of the year, because Arsenal are actually 4/1 3rd favourites for the league…..
Nice one! :D

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Re: Cowards

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:03 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:49 pm
I didn't see many cowards yesterday, especially the 1st half having gone 1 down that early, we kept going, they are just a better team
I don’t see one crunching tackle until Jay came on. I dont see any leadership, anyone with any bravery to change the game. We didn’t have a shot on goal the whole first half. Regardless of them being a better team or not there was no fight or willingness to do anything.

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Re: Cowards

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:39 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:47 pm
Great news…. You’ve found the investment opportunity of the year, because Arsenal are actually 4/1 3rd favourites for the league…..
And I've no doubt they'll win it.
Thanks for the odds, I did wonder how much there is to be made.

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Re: Cowards

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:43 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:47 pm
Great news…. You’ve found the investment opportunity of the year, because Arsenal are actually 4/1 3rd favourites for the league…..
Ah, I see the problem.
I should have said "my" favourites to win the league and made it crystal clear to those unable to understand the subtlety of my claim.
Arsenal, in my opinion are the stronger all round side, as opposed to the bookies' current view.
We shall see.

Sorry to get Jamesy and Co. so er, stimulated.
My bad.
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Re: Cowards

Post by dandeclaret » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:44 pm

That doesn’t change the investment proposition…. You’ve got a totally different view to the bookies. If they’re wrong, assuming Arsenal only have a 20% chance of winning, and you think that’s higher, it remains a good investment opportunity.

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Re: Cowards

Post by Jamesy » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:47 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:43 pm
Ah, I see the problem.
I should have said "my" favourites to win the league, Arsenal, in my opinion being the stronger all round side, as opposed to the bookies'.
Sorry to get Jamesy and Co. so er, stimulated.
My bad.
The problem is you are devoid of a sense of humour. I thought the response was very funny. Sadly it went straight over your head.
If you had taken your head out of your @rse you might have got it.

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Re: Cowards

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:48 pm

Off Arsenal's current form, City's relative spluttering and Liverpool' s injury concerns, 4/1 is looking pretty good, I'd say.
And, yes, controversially or not, I will be backing them.

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Re: Cowards

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:49 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:47 pm
The problem is you are devoid of a sense of humour. I thought the response was very funny. Sadly it went straight over your head.
If you had taken your head out of your @rse you might have got it.
Oh dear, Jamesy, are those real tears?

Grow up, fella.

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Re: Cowards

Post by Jamesy » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:50 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:49 pm
Oh dear, Jamesy, are those real tears?

Grow up, fella.
Go for it pal.

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Re: Cowards

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:51 pm

Well, that makes sense!
:lol:

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Re: Cowards

Post by Jamesy » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:54 pm

It’s nothing personal, just lighten up a bit.

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Re: Cowards

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:00 pm

No lightening up required.
Maybe I would take it personally or even care if I knew what you were actually getting at.
Anyway, I reckon we were outclassed by the best of the PL title contenders I've seen yesterday and am minded to take the odds of 4/1 of Arsenal winning it.
Hope that's OK.

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Re: Cowards

Post by Jamesy » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:04 pm

Course it’s ok. Football is all about opinions so get your money on em. Let us know at the end of the season what you plan to do with your winnings. ;)

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Re: Cowards

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:07 pm

I'll probably buy you one of them there Haffners humble pies...
Served cold.







Having gobbed in it. ;)


Only lightening up.....

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Re: Cowards

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:17 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:03 pm
I don’t see one crunching tackle until Jay came on. I dont see any leadership, anyone with any bravery to change the game. We didn’t have a shot on goal the whole first half. Regardless of them being a better team or not there was no fight or willingness to do anything.
Perhaps we should have signed Holgate... Looks like he likes a crunching tackle.

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Re: Cowards

Post by Jamesy » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:31 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:07 pm
I'll probably buy you one of them there Haffners humble pies...
Served cold.







Having gobbed in it. ;)


Only lightening up.....
Crack on pal. :lol:

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