Penaltys of Arsenal not given against Burnley

[pureclaret]

I saw an artical from Chris Sutton about this and have unfortunatley got to agree, I did on the day say it on 3 occasions.
Its not just us though its just getting worse and needs to be clamped down.
What he said and I agree is that if a player is defending a corner free kick or throw in or in fact general play, is not facing the Ball taker and cannot see it but is impeeding another player got to be a free kick, and no I dont want the physical side of the game to not be allowed its just rediculous that players defending have no idea where the ball is! and could that explain why we conceed so many corners. Not wanting to have ago at one player as such but Andouni did this at least 3 times , others too . No whilst the ones protecting thye goal keeper may have some argument I dont think this was the case Rant over

[Bordeauxclaret]

I thought this at the time. I just don’t see how you can defend when you are not looking at the ball.

[bfcjg]

We can't defend either whilst looking at it.

[She]

We can't defend either whilst looking at it.

brilliant

[Woodleyclaret]

Arsenal are cheating conartists who make Raheem Sterling look honest. Same old Arsenal always cheating is recognised by supporters or other teams but unfortunately not match officials

[Foshiznik]

Throwing yourself to the floor when holding the defender who is also holding you is not a penalty though.

It's like all those after the Liverpool game complaining that Jota should have had a penalty against Delcroix despite the fact he is clearly dragging Decroix's arm down then falls over rather than the other way round.

[pureclaret]

Throwing yourself to the floor when holding the defender who is also holding you is not a penalty though.

It's like all those after the Liverpool game complaining that Jota should have had a penalty against Delcroix despite the fact he is clearly dragging Decroix's arm down then falls over rather than the other way round.

I agree but my point is that if a player is not looking to play the ball and is restricting someone from trying to get to it and you have your arms hands on them looking directley away from the ball it should be a free kick , if you are both looking at where the ball is coming from then the Jota incident was correct decision.
I seem to rember that in the 2018 world cup penaltys were given and after the first few the players stopped doing it.

[Foshiznik]

I agree but my point is that if a player is not looking to play the ball and is restricting someone from trying to get to it and you have your arms hands on them looking directley away from the ball it should be a free kick , if you are both looking at where the ball is coming from then the Jota incident was correct decision.
I seem to rember that in the 2018 world cup penaltys were given and after the first few the players stopped doing it.

Fair point, but as a player you aren't always looking at the ball but potential threats and the location of opposition/own team players. It would be a very foggy grey area to try and define in the rules. Probably why it doesn't exist in all likelihood.

[steve1264b]

I made mention of Andouni defending White at corners on another thread.

He had obviously been delegated to protect Trafford and tbf to him he really did put it on White physically.

First thing here is there is no offence while the ball is out of play, they all push and shove at this stage.

Once the corner has been taken the jostling could be a penalty or free kick to the defence.

Im not sure where it says anyone has to be looking at the ball, certainly on saturday they had hands on each other and White while facing the ball he was not looking at it.

Until Trafford can dominate the box this is our biggest problem. How can we protect him while still defending the attackers?

Most teams put 2 or 3 on Trafford now, so we have to do the same. Its become congested and allows the other attackers to get a jump on the other defenders who are marking space.

Verbruggen has played 10 games for Brighton, time to change the narrative and make the other team revert to normal tactics.

It would make it easier to defend corners as we would have more defenders defending instead of trying to protect the goalie.

[HB Claret]

We could also start a thread about penalties that Arsenal have been given against us over the years which were questionable (and goals allowed that you would hope VAR would have disallowed) - but like the Murphy’s I’m not bitter !

[pureclaret]

Fair point, but as a player you aren't always looking at the ball but potential threats and the location of opposition/own team players. It would be a very foggy grey area to try and define in the rules. Probably why it doesn't exist in all likelihood.

I am not sure how foggy it is , i thought the laws of the game state that when you tackle ,shoulder charge jump for a header or block it has to be with the intention to play the ball. Im not sure if any law has chaged but it used to be if you crossed infront of a player without trying for the ball it was obstruction indirect free kick even in the penalty area.

Alos Im not saying other teams dont do it it just a frustration of mine , like the seeing a ball out for a goal kick and blocking the attacker you are not in control of the ball or trying to play it , indirect free kick should be given. would make defender play the ball