Benson

[dougcollins]

Every time I've seen one of these articles where 'Kompany adresses Benson's lack of game time' - he doesn't.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... ey-4523620

[Burnley1989]

Glad you posted this link then

[dougcollins]

No problem.

[agreenwood]

You can blame Kompany for lots of things this season, but not his 5-day old Radio Lancs interview being regurgitated as click bait for another discussion on a tired topic.

[dougcollins]

It was just an example of other articles, from other sources, that have rolled out the same non story.

Personally, I'd like to hear his true view on this.

Chances are we won't.

[agreenwood]

I inferred from his words that he doesn’t think Benson has been good enough. His use of the word words “at this level” has given ammo to those who believe he has been unfairly overlooked, because he’s hardly played. I’m assuming Kompany also thinks certain levels need to be demonstrated in training, so it’s possible that he was looking at Benson’s performance across the whole spectrum of what he sees from him and not just the handful of minutes he’s had in the PL this season.

[jojomk1]

The whole scenario just begs the question why Kompany didn't let him go in January
It's not as if we are short of wide men

[Bordeauxclaret]

I think we’ll get to the bottom of everything on this thread.

[elwaclaret]

What I do not understand is if Benson is not the level required why the hell did we extend his contract in the summer… makes no sense.

[bumba]

His comments would be valid if others had adapted but there isn't many wide men that have done well.
Also noted his comment regarding every player has had an opportunity to prove themself at this level, another lie I hope he isn't starting to go down that route.
It's a team full of players who haven't performed well so doesn't excuse Benson getting 100 minutes

[Nori1958]

What I do not understand is if Benson is not the level required why the hell did we extend his contract in the summer… makes no sense.

Extended as per contract on promotion

[elwaclaret]

Extended as per contract on promotion

If that was the case it makes more sense… not sure why clauses and option of an extension in the players favour at contract’s end would not have been employed… but hey ho, I’m not a lawyer.

[Tricky Trevor]

What I do not understand is if Benson is not the level required why the hell did we extend his contract in the summer… makes no sense.

OR: extended in preparation for the Championship next year. Bruun Larsenn and Tresor can go but Benny, Anass, Luca and Wilf would be a nightmare for Championship FBs.

[elwaclaret]

OR: extended in preparation for the Championship next year. Bruun Larsenn and Tresor can go but Benny, Anass, Luca and Wilf would be a nightmare for Championship FBs.

Maybe… seems very extravagant to be paying a seasons wages when there will be other and fresher options in the market that are potentially more long term use back in the Championship…. Especially as the aim in the summer was not to be returning to the Championship.

[beddie]

What I do not understand is if Benson is not the level required why the hell did we extend his contract in the summer… makes no sense.

I’m guessing VK thought he’d progress and he hasn’t. I haven’t a clue about VKs style of management but perhaps Benson just needs the old arm round the shoulder and to be told he is valued. We’ll need him next season though.

[Woodleyclaret]

So how about a comment on Tressor a player who VK pursued for months Tressor looks disinterested and pxxx poor.

[Vim Fuego]

The interviewer really needed to follow up that question with "How on earth did Muric manage to lose the shirt, and how have all these very odd selection decisions affected squad morale, Vincent?"

[Carlos the Great]

When VK says Benson hasn’t adapted to the premier league … it could be said the same about Vk

[alwaysaclaret]

OR: extended in preparation for the Championship next year. Bruun Larsenn and Tresor can go but Benny, Anass, Luca and Wilf would be a nightmare for Championship FBs.

So then it would beg the question, of the four, benny anass luca and wilf, which 2 would be first choice. Can you imagine how bad Benny and anass would feel if they were behind luca and wilf after having already proved themselves in the Championship. And what an unenviable position vk would put himself in if that's how he see's it. All hypothetical yes, but.

[Vim Fuego]

When VK says Benson hasn’t adapted to the premier league … it could be said the same about Vk

Spot on that

[Tricky Trevor]

So then it would beg the question, of the four, benny anass luca and wilf, which 2 would be first choice. Can you imagine how bad Benny and anass would feel if they were behind luca and wilf after having already proved themselves in the Championship. And what an unenviable position vk would put himself in if that's how he see's it. All hypothetical yes, but.

I’d be starting with whomever is showing best through pre-season and training but would be quite happy with 60 minute subs to keep them all fresh. It’s a 46 game season.

[Clive 1960]

If Vincent knew Benson wouldn't get much game time why didn't we sell him if there was offers for him other than not play him just seems silly..

[blatherwickstattoos]

If he didn’t think he was up to it would he hand him a 5 year contract in the summer ? Been a huge fall out . Cant wait for the next mission to Burnley to show us all

[Bordeauxclaret]

If he didn’t think he was up to it would he hand him a 5 year contract in the summer ? Been a huge fall out . Cant wait for the next mission to Burnley to show us all

I do wonder if the extension was built into the original contract somehow and triggered on Promotion?
Same with Zaroury and Vitinho.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Rumour mill doing the rounds .. benson and kompany had a ding dong in training and had to be pulled apart by Bellamy . Hear stuff like this all the time but without any evidence so always taken with a pinch of salt

[Guller Bull]

Rumour mill doing the rounds .. benson and kompany had a ding dong in training and had to be pulled apart by Bellamy . Hear stuff like this all the time but without any evidence so always taken with a pinch of salt

Is the rumour of a recent ding dong or a while back?

[Westleigh]

Think it would have been a lobsided ding dong.

[Clive 1960]

wouldn't like to get into a ding dong with Vincent but honestly it shouldn't be happening at all they are grown men and should be sorted out amicably...

[beddie]

Rumour mill doing the rounds .. benson and kompany had a ding dong in training and had to be pulled apart by Bellamy . Hear stuff like this all the time but without any evidence so always taken with a pinch of salt

What Benson was nutting Kompanys waist when they pulled them apart.

[KRBFC]

What I do not understand is if Benson is not the level required why the hell did we extend his contract in the summer… makes no sense.

Do you really need an answer for that?

Benson got a pay rise
we tied down a key player from last season
helps us get a higher fee.

The same reason Cullen signed an extension, the part you’re missing though is Benson has never played PL football before, nobody knew if he’d make the grade, there was only one way to find out. I remember when VK gave him a start, he was absolutely fuming with him on the touch line.

[BurnleyFC]

I do wonder if the extension was built into the original contract somehow and triggered on Promotion?
Same with Zaroury and Vitinho.

The contract scenario with Vitinho was that if we only paid a million, but think he’s ******* brilliant then he would get an extension.

[elwaclaret]

Do you really need an answer for that?

Benson got a pay rise
we tied down a key player from last season
helps us get a higher fee.

The same reason Cullen signed an extension, the part you’re missing though is Benson has never played PL football before, nobody knew if he’d make the grade, there was only one way to find out. I remember when VK gave him a start, he was absolutely fuming with him on the touch line.

A key player, or a player that the fans took to because he changed games after coming off the bench? VK several times stated Benson was not fit enough to start Championship games… so why give him a new contract knowing that we were going up another level and hoping to stay two levels above Benson’s (perceived) ability.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

The interviewer really needed to follow up that question with "How on earth did Muric manage to lose the shirt, and how have all these very odd selection decisions affected squad morale, Vincent?"

Does any interviewer have the balls to ask searching questions , they still seem obsessed with Man City and Pep in half of them.

He’s another one that hasn’t made the step up apparently I love how his super fans just regurgitate what he says on here.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

A key player, or a player that the fans took to because he changed games after coming off the bench? VK several times stated Benson was not fit enough to start Championship games… so why give him a new contract knowing that we were going up another level and hoping to stay two levels above Benson’s (perceived) ability.

The very least he can do is give him the luxury of a few games in the side to show what he can do.

Tresor got around 5 games when he showed absolutely nothing to warrant being in the side, fair’s fair!

His team selections show no logic whatsoever at present.

[alwaysaclaret]

A key player, or a player that the fans took to because he changed games after coming off the bench? VK several times stated Benson was not fit enough to start Championship games… so why give him a new contract knowing that we were going up another level and hoping to stay two levels above Benson’s (perceived) ability.

Begs the question why the hell did he sign him in the first place if he deems him fit for nothing.

[elwaclaret]

Begs the question why the hell did he sign him in the first place if he deems him fit for nothing.

Pretty much my sentiment regarding not necessarily his initial signing but certainly the contract extension.

[Vegas Claret]

When VK says Benson hasn’t adapted to the premier league … it could be said the same about Vk

none of them have, not a single one*


*although Foster has looked improved

[blatherwickstattoos]

Last week by all accounts . Like I say probably bullsheet

[boatshed bill]

Begs the question why the hell did he sign him in the first place if he deems him fit for nothing.

He explained that ages ago.

[warksclaret]

Nothing would give me a bigger lift when I go to Palace Saturday in knowing Odobert is one wing and Benson the other. Before anyone on here starts telling me we need JBG for his defensive duties-sorry I cant live with that. We need a win against Palace, not setting up for a draw or defeat. If we play two proper full backs and a midfield three of Brownhill/Cullen/Berge , we wont need that cover

[alwaysaclaret]

He explained that ages ago.

Enlighten me, I missed that one

[boatshed bill]

Enlighten me, I missed that one

VK said something on the lines of European clubs weren't sure of his ability and that he (VK) was prepared to give MB a chance to prove himself.

[alwaysaclaret]

VK said something on the lines of European clubs weren't sure of his ability and that he (VK) was prepared to give MB a chance to prove himself.

So if that's the case he's shown him he's ability last season, and look where it's got him.

[boatshed bill]

So if that's the case he's shown him he's ability last season, and look where it's got him.

Well the manager would hardly torpedo his own boat, so you can fairly safely assume that MB hasn't matched up to the required standard.

[alwaysaclaret]

Well the manager would hardly torpedo his own boat, so you can fairly safely assume that MB hasn't matched up to the required standard.

How can he know that when he's played a mere stop/start 100 minute's, there's several other's who haven't matched up to the required standard yet have been selected week on week, 1 in particular has played every minute of the season, and as I've repeatedly said he'd be better suited to the Sunday league.

[boatshed bill]

How can he know that when he's played a mere stop/start 100 minute's, there's several other's who haven't matched up to the required standard yet have been selected week on week, 1 in particular has played every minute of the season, and as I've repeatedly said he'd be better suited to the Sunday league.

I don't pick the team, I'm just telling you (roughly) what I remember.

[alwaysaclaret]

I don't pick the team, I'm just telling you (roughly) what I remember.

Of course, I'm simply asking a question and giving an opinion.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Well the manager would hardly torpedo his own boat, so you can fairly safely assume that MB hasn't matched up to the required standard.

He’s rigged it up with Semtex and blown it to smithereens by the looks of it!

[BurnleyFC]

Didn’t do overly much when he came on for a few minutes today.

[Goliath]

He did what he does, he demands the ball and takes responsibility. I thought he played well.
In fact i thought that final bunch of changes left us with an interesting template to build up play.
Cork dropping right, Cullen left and Berge central with Benson always showing as well.
Id quite like to see us continue that experiment next week.