Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate

[fidelcastro]

Easy to say that. Phil Parkinson done nothing as a manager in the championship never mind the premier league

Agreed. What I'm saying is I don't think we'd have been worse off this season.

[RetroClaret]

Stay - this season is long done. Has to hit the ground running next season or he needs to go.

[Cirrus_Minor]

How bad do you have to be? Guardiolas replacement at city? I can't believe the difference between this season and last season. Completely waste of an opportunity in the Premier league that may not come again.

Go

[BleedingClaret]

Stay - this season is long done. Has to hit the ground running next season or he needs to go.

This

[alwaysaclaret]

Has to be "GO" just don't see the point in trusting him to bring us back up to where we are now, he's learnt nothing, and doesn't seem interested in learning, "too pig headed"

[tarkys_ears]

Stay - this season is long done. Has to hit the ground running next season or he needs to go.

Absolutely.

[Coeus]

Both. It’s not that simple for Pace I would guess. For me he needs a sabbatical for 3 months. If we stay up under a caretaker manager, don’t laugh but BFS or the like . Then he goes. If we get relegated then he takes the reins, recharged and ready to go again, with fans backing I would suggest. It’s fantasy I know but that would be my favoured scenario.

[RammyClaret61]

It’s looking like Kompany will be filed along side the likes of Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton etc. great players who never made the transition to managers.

[clansman]

Got to go after today

[jmu1]

Stay
Would have voted more confidently if there was more evidence he is learning

[No Ney Never]

For football as a sport: Go
For football as a business: Stay

[paulatky]

Time to go
Clueless and shows no signs of learning

[COBBLE]

Both. It’s not that simple for Pace I would guess. For me he needs a sabbatical for 3 months. If we stay up under a caretaker manager, don’t laugh but BFS or the like . Then he goes. If we get relegated then he takes the reins, recharged and ready to go again, with fans backing I would suggest. It’s fantasy I know but that would be my favoured scenario.

I would love to see what Jackson would change.

[TPClaret]

It’s looking like Kompany will be filed along side the likes of Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton etc. great players who never made the transition to managers.

He’s already won the Championship. How many managers in the efl that have been doing in for years have never done that

[warksclaret]

Just got back from that shocking performance, and had time to reflect . For me we are going backwards at a far rate of knots, Its obvious VK is not learning -quite the opposite. All he can throw in are his own PL experiences and how he has seen it all before, at the same time trying to convince everyone his team are in it for the fight.The only guys in it for the fight today were Esteve , who really impressed me playing against a big dangerous striker, O'Shea, Josh Cullen who I have been campaigning for since his performance at Spurs, and Fofana .Whats ironical is if Neil Warnock was to join us,then within two weeks several players would never wear the shirt again. For VK he seems besotted with these players and has continued to start them almost every game. What am I missing ?? I remember CT saying after the 5-0 defeat v Arsenal that he no longer cared. I felt that way after today

For meVK is now damaged and badly scarred. If we cant trust him to make the right starting 11 and the right subs, how can we trust him to deal in the transfer market in Summer. VK's value has nose dived. When he joined I was so impressed on the number of players he talked into joining us. In four months he will be damaged goods, and very few people will join us because of him. His credibility has been badly tarnished, and I think he is becoming aware of it, reflected in his pre and post match comments.

Next season its likely Luton & Sheff Utd will join us. Its also likely that one, or even both of Southampton and Ipswich will still be in he Championship. Add that to the likes of Coventry, Hull,Middlesborough, Norwich-are you confident we get promotion at the first attempt again, particularly with the likes of Tella, Benson, Zarourry not likely to feature . Today we played in Palace, a Championship side at best with three of their best players out

I feel now if we could get the right guy in, with the acceptance that relegation is a certainty, that at least he has a dozen or so games to evaluate everyone still in contract in Summer. The option is we give VK until October/December allowing him to tinker again with player additions, leaving someone mid season next year to sort out a mess thats even bigger than now.

Today was really shocking, but I think for me the penny finally dropped

[boatshed bill]

Time to go
Clueless and shows no signs of learning

Time for you to step up then?

[Jakubclaret]

He’s already won the Championship. How many managers in the efl that have been doing in for years have never done that

Not many but then again they haven't had the sort of loans like THB & maatsen & Nathan tella. If we are using that as a yardstick let's tell the full story.

[brexit]

VK will be gone on Monday. Jesse Marsch on a 2 and half year deal

[boatshed bill]

Not many but then again they haven't had the sort of loans like THB & maatsen & Nathan tella. If we are using that as a yardstick let's tell the full story.

You make a very good point here.
Plenty of posters on here forget how important these loanees were.

[claretburns]

Stay.

[Jakubclaret]

You make a very good point here.
Plenty of posters on here forget how important these loanees were.

We had the opportunity to sign them I think on a permanent basis.

[Newcastleclaret93]

The funny thing is he should have gone over ten games ago.

[boatshed bill]

We had the opportunity to sign them I think on a permanent basis.

Some times deals break down despite the best intentions.

[Jakubclaret]

Some times deals break down despite the best intentions.

What all 3? It should have been recognized just how important they was to the fabric of the team & more resources & effort should have gone into getting them maybe not all 3 but at least 1. Instead a significant amount went on a goalkeeper who isn't PL ready. Awful awful recruitment.

[boatshed bill]

What all 3? It should have been recognized just how important they was to the fabric of the team & more resources & effort should have gone into getting them maybe not all 3 but at least 1. Instead a significant amount went on a goalkeeper who isn't PL ready. Awful awful recruitment.

I don't think Tella and Maatsen were committed to BFC.

[Wembley09]

Stay.
Getting rid of him now would do nothing to change our plight this season.

He's building a longterm project here (I expected mid-table or playoffs at the best last season)

But if he struggles next season, if we're not in the top 4 mix come next winter.. then I think he will be gone due to the pressure.

Next season the fans will expect much much more in the league below, spending over 100 million.. mostly on younger players for the future, anything but a playoff push next season would be a massive failure.

This season as heaped massive pressure on Kompany next season. Hope he can handle it (pressure wasn't that big when he first came)

[Middle-agedClaret]

Go.

[Clockwork Claret]

Stay. Needs a good start in Champo though

[pureclaret]

Stay

[daveisaclaret]

Go. The idea of giving this guy a third consecutive summer changing the whole team is scary as hell.

[BabylonClaret]

You make a very good point here.
Plenty of posters on here forget how important these loanees were.

Which is why we should have made sure we signed at least one of them (Tella would have been ours if we would have bid the right amount)

[Vim Fuego]

Just got back from that shocking performance, and had time to reflect . For me we are going backwards at a far rate of knots, Its obvious VK is not learning -quite the opposite. All he can throw in are his own PL experiences and how he has seen it all before, at the same time trying to convince everyone his team are in it for the fight.The only guys in it for the fight today were Esteve , who really impressed me playing against a big dangerous striker, O'Shea, Josh Cullen who I have been campaigning for since his performance at Spurs, and Fofana .Whats ironical is if Neil Warnock was to join us,then within two weeks several players would never wear the shirt again. For VK he seems besotted with these players and has continued to start them almost every game. What am I missing ?? I remember CT saying after the 5-0 defeat v Arsenal that he no longer cared. I felt that way after today

For meVK is now damaged and badly scarred. If we cant trust him to make the right starting 11 and the right subs, how can we trust him to deal in the transfer market in Summer. VK's value has nose dived. When he joined I was so impressed on the number of players he talked into joining us. In four months he will be damaged goods, and very few people will join us because of him. His credibility has been badly tarnished, and I think he is becoming aware of it, reflected in his pre and post match comments.

Next season its likely Luton & Sheff Utd will join us. Its also likely that one, or even both of Southampton and Ipswich will still be in he Championship. Add that to the likes of Coventry, Hull,Middlesborough, Norwich-are you confident we get promotion at the first attempt again, particularly with the likes of Tella, Benson, Zarourry not likely to feature . Today we played in Palace, a Championship side at best with three of their best players out

I feel now if we could get the right guy in, with the acceptance that relegation is a certainty, that at least he has a dozen or so games to evaluate everyone still in contract in Summer. The option is we give VK until October/December allowing him to tinker again with player additions, leaving someone mid season next year to sort out a mess thats even bigger than now.

Today was really shocking, but I think for me the penny finally dropped

Yes or No ?

[TPClaret]

Not many but then again they haven't had the sort of loans like THB & maatsen & Nathan tella. If we are using that as a yardstick let's tell the full story.

Attracted by VK to play for Burnley. Let’s not forget he massively improved these players as well

[matttheclaret]

Go. The idea of giving this guy a third consecutive summer changing the whole team is scary as hell.

I'm pretty torn on the matter but scary as hell? I think that's a real over exaggeration given that in two summers so far he's got a 50% success ratio. Plus I have a real nagging feeling that he's not necessarily been picking all these players we've signed

[Mark the Claret]

Exactly this, get someone in now to prepare for next season, replying to vim fuego.

[boatshed bill]

Which is why we should have made sure we signed at least one of them (Tella would have been ours if we would have bid the right amount)

I doubt VK set the limit for the transfer fee.

[claptrappers_union]

Attracted by VK to play for Burnley. Let’s not forget he massively improved these players as well

I don't believe this to be as valid as most believe. The press would never ask the question “Was Sean Dyche an influence on you signing for Burnley?”

[BabylonClaret]

Honestly I am in 2 minds. This season has been a busted flush since failing to beat Luton so its more about next seaaon here. Do we think we can bounce back?

I'd like to say he deserves the chance after last seaaon but being hard nosed ii think we might struggle. He has made some huge huge mistakes this season and looks to be completely and utterly exposed now.

Part of our glamour and aura last season was from Vincent's personal draw ans I think that's likely **** all next season.

After today's shambles I'm leaning more to go I think

[Westleigh]

Go

[daveisaclaret]

I'm pretty torn on the matter but scary as hell? I think that's a real over exaggeration given that in two summers so far he's got a 50% success ratio. Plus I have a real nagging feeling that he's not necessarily been picking all these players we've signed

Amdouni 15m, Tresor 15m, Ramsey 15m, Trafford 15m.

To me that is scary as hell.

[TPClaret]

I don't believe this to be as valid as most believe. The press would never ask the question “Was Sean Dyche an influence on you signing for Burnley?”

Rubbish. They certainly didn’t come because it was Burnley.

[Wembley09]

I don't believe this to be as valid as most believe. The press would never ask the question “Was Sean Dyche an influence on you signing for Burnley?”

Because more than likely he wasn't.
Dyche was a warrior of the English game, mainly in the EFL. They came for Premier League football.

I have no doubt Kompany was the reason we attracted players last season, and some this year.

Kompany's reputation is/was much higher than Sean Dyche. Who was a strong/solid English centre back in his time.

Dyche can't be compared to Kompany in terms of the European/World football. Kompany can attract far better players from abroad than Dyche.. surely?

[daveisaclaret]

Because more than likely he wasn't.
Dyche was a warrior of the English game, mainly in the EFL. They came for Premier League football.

I have no doubt Kompany was the reason we attracted players last season, and some this year.

Kompany's reputation is/was much higher than Sean Dyche. Who was a strong/solid English centre back in his time.

Dyche can't be compared to Kompany in terms of the European/World football. Kompany can attract far better players from abroad than Dyche.. surely?

If Kompany can attract better players why is this team worse than anything Dyche ever fielded?

[Wembley09]

If Kompany can attract better players why is this team worse than anything Dyche ever fielded?

[Wile E Coyote]

It’s looking like Kompany will be filed along side the likes of Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton etc. great players who never made the transition to managers.

I take your point to some degree, but a lot depends on circumstances at any particular club. VK was appointed in fairly chaotic times at the Turf, given that he won promotion at the first attempt in that division is no small achievement.
Basing his managerial abilities at this level on one season is harsh, we aren't one of the wealthiest clubs, and he can't conjure up talent to match the divisions better teams . Yes there has been money spent, but ultimately its a lottery for numerous managers. That's why many clarets fans want him to continue.

[mickleoverclaret]

Go.

[tarkys_ears]

Rubbish. They certainly didn’t come because it was Burnley.

Nah they read the words "premier league" and a load of 0s

Same with cornet. But if he wanted to come, put himself in the window and benefit both of us in the interim, so be it!

[Wembley09]

If Kompany can attract better players why is this team worse than anything Dyche ever fielded?

Because he's a worse English manager than Dyche at the moment? He's still learning?

Dyche did well with a poor Watford budget, got sacked when the money boys took over.

He came to Burnley, first season from October ish to the end.. we had some awful performances as Dyche molded his style. Next season we went up, then back down.

We went back up as champions and didn't look back.
Imagine want Kompany could do given the same time?

He could also fail I know, but all I'm saying is give him enough time too.

[gukwonan]

Stay

[boatshed bill]

If Kompany can attract better players why is this team worse than anything Dyche ever fielded?

Contracts and wages, possibly?