Amdouni

[CoolClaret]

The people who like Amdouni are the ones that care if he's got 5 star skill on fifa.

The lad has got some technical ability but he's one of the most ineffective footballers I've seen for us. Needs to be playing for a team that dominates sides and that isn't us at this level.

Bang on. Fifa/FM/TikTok player

Same would be the type to call Chris Wood sh1t.

[NewClaret]

Amdouni did the same in half an hour as fofana did in 96 minutes today tbf. Both offered absolutely nothing. Everytime ball came to fofana it bounced off him, we have been without foster as such crucial parts of the season.

Fofana is another in this group of players that can show flashes of brilliance but isn’t anywhere near consistent enough

Foster has been a huge, huge miss. Fofana gash today and if he carries on like that there’ll be a good case for bringing Amdouni in to replace him because he’s not done any worse than that.

I thought Amdouni showed a bit more effort in his sub appearance than we have been used to, which is a good thing.

[Sutton-Claret]

Foster and Koleosho both missed today

[Jamesy]

Amdouni did the same in half an hour as fofana did in 96 minutes today tbf. Both offered absolutely nothing. Everytime ball came to fofana it bounced off him, we have been without foster as such crucial parts of the season.

Fofana is another in this group of players that can show flashes of brilliance but isn’t anywhere near consistent enough

Bit harsh on Fofona here in my humble opinion. He kept going and we didn’t play to his strengths. Twice in the second half we should have got the ball into him when we had the opportunity and he was on the shoulder of their last man.
He did have one chance where he had a heavy touch and it fizzled away from him. He must be wondering to himself why he opted to go out on loan join a lost cause like Vincent Kompany’s Burnley because we are never going to put him in the shop window or enhance his career.
In a nutshell he is flogging a dead horse.

[Flying Without Ings]

I'd fine him a months wages and let him train on his own. Absolute dosser.

[123EasyasBFC]

And Fofana has contributed how many more goals and assists over a few games when compared.....

Laughable comparison

The comparison was about today’s game.

Then a separate comment about the sort of player I think fofana is

[123EasyasBFC]

Bit harsh on Fofona here in my humble opinion. He kept going and we didn’t play to his strengths. Twice in the second half we should have got the ball into him when we had the opportunity and he was on the shoulder of their last man.
He did have one chance where he had a heavy touch and it fizzled away from him. He must be wondering to himself why he opted to go out on loan join a lost cause like Vincent Kompany’s Burnley because we are never going to put him in the shop window or enhance his career.
In a nutshell he is flogging a dead horse.

Chelsea probably told him that prem loan was the best option, I just felt today everytime the ball game near him ‘oh no we are going to lose it’

I might be being harsh to but felt like he backed out of the chance in the first half, following the odobert through ball

[dsr]

Foster has been a huge, huge miss. Fofana gash today and if he carries on like that there’ll be a good case for bringing Amdouni in to replace him because he’s not done any worse than that.

I thought Amdouni showed a bit more effort in his sub appearance than we have been used to, which is a good thing.

Amdouni played like that for 20+ games before being dropped. Give Fofana a second chance, perhaps?

as for the second paragraph, "showed a bit more effort than we have been used to" is the faintest of faint praise. Reminds of the tale about the most unpopular man in the village who died, and at his funeral the vicar asked the parishioners to say something about him as a eulogy. It was all quiet until eventually someone piped up, "his brother was worse."

Saying someone tried a bit harder than he usually does can never be a reason to select him.

[BabylonClaret]

Only got half the second half and half the first but I have to say I didn't realise he had come on. As shite as he has been fir the rest of the season.

[NewClaret]

Amdouni played like that for 20+ games before being dropped. Give Fofana a second chance, perhaps?

as for the second paragraph, "showed a bit more effort than we have been used to" is the faintest of faint praise. Reminds of the tale about the most unpopular man in the village who died, and at his funeral the vicar asked the parishioners to say something about him as a eulogy. It was all quiet until eventually someone piped up, "his brother was worse."

Saying someone tried a bit harder than he usually does can never be a reason to select him.

Yes, I’d give Fofana another chance. Have to say though, I wasn’t convinced on him when he signed, then thought I’d got it wrong when he burst on to the scene. I’m not so sure now. I’m assuming he’s not going to be with us next year so I’d probably go with our own players over him to give them the experience.

Re: Amdouni. Well I didn’t over exaggerate his performance because he only came on for 20 minutes and he’d set a low bar for effort and work rate before then, but I did think it was a marked improvement.

[Vegas Claret]

Bang on. Fifa/FM/TikTok player

Same would be the type to call Chris Wood sh1t.

Zeki Anonymous, the absolute definition of what I said on the other thread about certain players letting the manager down and not being anywhere near the levels they were supposed to be.

[expoultryboy]

Back again about this lazy specimen . I agree totally with you Vegas , he really doesn't give a toss about playing for us . I just don't understand why Kompany brought him on first .

[CoolClaret]

Back again about this lazy specimen . I agree totally with you Vegas , he really doesn't give a toss about playing for us . I just don't understand why Kompany brought him on first .

I'm sure the MUD boys found some perfect data point to justify his signing.

[dandeclaret]

Bang on. Fifa/FM/TikTok player

Same would be the type to call Chris Wood sh1t.

Sorry to pop the balloon here…. As probably Chris Woods biggest fanboy on here, who also thinks Amdouni has huge talent but has been let down hugely by the system he’s being asked to play in personally.

[Theivley Pike]

Think it’s a bit harsh on him coming into a side with no confidence ,our strikers have scraps to feed off ,he’ll probably be glad to get back to Chelsea.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Sorry to pop the balloon here…. As probably Chris Woods biggest fanboy on here, who also thinks Amdouni has huge talent but has been let down hugely by the system he’s being asked to play in personally.

I’m sorry but whatever talent Amdouni has file it under Weghorst.

Never ever a premier league player. He hasn’t got the physicality/pace/work ethic to be a success at this level. It’s been apparant for some time as well.

He’s the type of lad that will go to somewhere like Rennes or Nice and have a fairly successful career in one of them leagues.

[Vegas Claret]

I’m sorry but whatever talent Amdouni has file it under Weghorst.

Never ever a premier league player. He hasn’t got the physicality/pace/work ethic to be a success at this level. It’s been apparant for some time as well.

He’s the type of lad that will go to somewhere like Rennes or Nice and have a fairly successful career in one of them leagues.

scores plenty in international football, the PL is a whole different beast though - he would deffo do well in other leagues (and before anyone says it I don't mean League 1!!)

[South West Claret.]

A lot of us have been saying since early October , that Amdouni is just a luxury player who doesn't offer much and is lazy . What does VK see in him to play him week in week out ? Surely he must see that our midfield is overrun every game whilst Amdouni just strolls around and never helps out .

Sums him up to a tee.

[bobinho]

4-0 up, yeah let’s have a look at him….

A luxury player - not the type to have in the trenches.

[Newcastleclaret93]

scores plenty in international football, the PL is a whole different beast though - he would deffo do well in other leagues (and before anyone says it I don't mean League 1!!)

To be fair his international goals have come against the equivalent of Stockport.

But regardless I agree he’s a player for European leagues.

Very similar to Weghorst in the respect that he has technical ability but lacks the tools to be successful in this league.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

To be fair his international goals have come against the equivalent of Stockport.

But regardless I agree he’s a player for European leagues.

Very similar to Weghorst in the respect that he has technical ability but lacks the tools to be successful in this league.

Yep those international goals have come against:
Belarus x 2
Israel
Romania x 2
Andorra

[Jamesy]

I’m sorry but whatever talent Amdouni has file it under Weghorst.

Never ever a premier league player. He hasn’t got the physicality/pace/work ethic to be a success at this level. It’s been apparant for some time as well.

He’s the type of lad that will go to somewhere like Rennes or Nice and have a fairly successful career in one of them leagues.

Personally I think this is an insult to Weghorst. He has got more minerals than Amdouni.
This is the problem with many of Vincent’s/Mud players. They seriously lack minerals as well as Premier League nous.

[Jamesy]

19 million (€) down the drain, Zeki Amdouni goes missing again…….

[Quickenthetempo]

After Sunday's performance against a very poor Bournemouth side.

I came to the conclusion it wasn't Amdouni that is at fault in this team.

[South West Claret.]

He can’t even be bothered to where shin pads.

[Jamesy]

He can’t even be bothered to where shin pads.

He doesn’t need shin pads when he is running everywhere the ball isn’t going to be!

[dougcollins]

Wear are his shin pads?

[Jamesy]

Wear are his shin pads?

He wears those tiny little Jack Grealish type pads.

[South West Claret.]

He doesn’t need shin pads when he is running everywhere the ball isn’t going to be!

Ah yes a good point well said

[Ric_C]

After Sunday's performance against a very poor Bournemouth side.

I came to the conclusion it wasn't Amdouni that is at fault in this team.

However we fell to pieces when he came on, and our shape disintegrated

[Quickenthetempo]

However we fell to pieces when he came on, and our shape disintegrated

I can't say I noticed him too much. But we were poor all game.

I was in shock at how half arsed Benson was when he came on. After all the build up from the crowd, I was expecting him to take players on and add excitement.
He played like he wants his manager sacked.

[Nori1958]

I can't say I noticed him too much. But we were poor all game.

I was in shock at how half arsed Benson was when he came on. After all the build up from the crowd, I was expecting him to take players on and add excitement.
He played like he wants his manager sacked.

So we've now got players, playing to get the manager sacked?
I wonder why nobody else picked up on that?

[TopCat]

Some good news, whatever his problem with his wrist must have healed.

[Big Vinny K]

I can't say I noticed him too much. But we were poor all game.

I was in shock at how half arsed Benson was when he came on. After all the build up from the crowd, I was expecting him to take players on and add excitement.
He played like he wants his manager sacked.

You were in shock ?
Really ?
How often did we get the ball to Benson after he came on ?

What did he do exactly to make you think he was playing to get the manager sacked ?

[Quickenthetempo]

You were in shock ?
Really ?
How often did we get the ball to Benson after he came on ?

What did he do exactly to make you think he was playing to get the manager sacked ?

He received the ball out wide,about 20 yards out, with plenty of space to the full back.
Instead of going at the fullback and getting a cross in or trying to create, he simply stood still, slowed it down and then passed it backwards as if he didn't want him.

I think he got one cross in out of 4 chances to.

He will never have a better chance to show the manager was wrong. He wasn't interested.

[Big Vinny K]

He received the ball out wide,about 20 yards out, with plenty of space to the full back.
Instead of going at the fullback and getting a cross in or trying to create, he simply stood still, slowed it down and then passed it backwards as if he didn't want him.

I think he got one cross in out of 4 chances to.

He will never have a better chance to show the manager was wrong. He wasn't interested.

Absolute rubbish.
“Never have a better chance” ?
How about starting him in the game on the right wing instead of playing someone who has played at full back all season ?

[boyyanno]

He received the ball out wide,about 20 yards out, with plenty of space to the full back.
Instead of going at the fullback and getting a cross in or trying to create, he simply stood still, slowed it down and then passed it backwards as if he didn't want him.

I think he got one cross in out of 4 chances to.

He will never have a better chance to show the manager was wrong. He wasn't interested.

I feel this is a little harsh.

It seems that the yard stick for Benson is way above what you'd expect for a normal player.

Benson gets 15 minutes and people complain that he didn't go against the managers instructions and single handedly turn the game around.

Benson didn't do any worse or any better than any of the other wingers imo but I don't know what people expect from someone who has barely featured and then gets a random 15 minutes when we're already losing and the game has slipped away.

[Quickenthetempo]

Absolute rubbish.
“Never have a better chance” ?
How about starting him in the game on the right wing instead of playing someone who has played at full back all season ?

I agree he should have started games this season.

But he hasn't and a winger coming on 1-0 down with not that long left has the advantage of

No responsibility to chase back.
The crowd were up and encouraging.
No chance of burn out, he can sprint everywhere.
The opposition sitting back, encouraging them on. It virtually guarantees the wideman gets the ball.

But Big Vinny says it all rubbish, so it must be.

[Quickenthetempo]

I feel this is a little harsh.

It seems that the yard stick for Benson is way above what you'd expect for a normal player.

Benson gets 15 minutes and people complain that he didn't go against the managers instructions and single handedly turn the game around.

Benson didn't do any worse or any better than any of the other wingers imo but I don't know what people expect from someone who has barely featured and then gets a random 15 minutes when we're already losing and the game has slipped away.

I like Benson a lot. He is Burnley's greatest ever sub to my knowledge.

It's the first time I have ever thought he didn't want to be out there

[Big Vinny K]

I agree he should have started games this season.

But he hasn't and a winger coming on 1-0 down with not that long left has the advantage of

No responsibility to chase back.
The crowd were up and encouraging.
No chance of burn out, he can sprint everywhere.
The opposition sitting back, encouraging them on. It virtually guarantees the wideman gets the ball.

But Big Vinny says it all rubbish, so it must be.

Nope - it’s not definitive. Just on my opinion I think you are taking utter sh-ite.
When Benson came on they were not sitting back at all.
For whatever reason our full back decided to back off and give their player 3 free shots on target - he missed the first 2 by inches but we were in such a generous mood we thought we’d give him a 3rd chance.
That goal the killed the game was 11 minutes after Benson came on.
So you are saying that Benson had 11 minutes to show the manager what he’s got after being frozen out all season ?

[Quickenthetempo]

Nope - it’s not definitive. Just on my opinion I think you are taking utter sh-ite.
When Benson came on they were not sitting back at all.
For whatever reason our full back decided to back off and give their player 3 free shots on target - he missed the first 2 by inches but we were in such a generous mood we thought we’d give him a 3rd chance.
That goal the killed the game was 11 minutes after Benson came on.
So you are saying that Benson had 11 minutes to show the manager what he’s got after being frozen out all season ?

Not sure what the full back has got to do with it?

Benson got 20 minutes including injury time.

I will leave this now as I gave my opinion and reasons for. You don't have to like them.

[Big Vinny K]

Not sure what the full back has got to do with it?

Benson got 20 minutes including injury time.

I will leave this now as I gave my opinion and reasons for. You don't have to like them.

The full back has got everything to do with it.
Did you expect Benson to come on and go in the left back position….stop their winger and dribble it around 9 players before smashing it in the top corner for our equaliser ?

Because of mistakes by other players on the pitch the game was over after he had been on the pitch for 11 minutes.

Just because you gave a couple of daft examples of why you think Benson was trying to get the manager sacked that does not mean it reflects what actually happened. Having an “opinion” is not a justification for saying anything.

[Leisure]

He wears those tiny little Jack Grealish type pads.

Correct. A player must wear shin pads under Rule 4.2.