Lowest points in our history

[Quickenthetempo]

According to wiki

Fewest points in a season:
Two points for a win: 13 in 22 matches, Football League, 1889–90[9]
Three points for a win: 30 in 38 matches, Premier League, 2009–10

Not looking good.

Although VK will be a history maker again.

[fidelcastro]

And still people want him to stay.

Amazing, isn't it?

[Shaggy]

It’s not like he’s going to break the record by a little bit. He’s literally smashed it

[Nori1958]

And still people want him to stay.

Amazing, isn't it?

Fortunately the majority on here

[fidelcastro]

Fortunately the majority on here

Why fortunately?

[bumba]

Fortunately the majority on here

A shame then that the majority on here doesn't equate to the majority of the fan base

[CnBtruntru]

It'll be reight.

[Shaggy]

Fortunately the majority on here

Yeah we win 3 games out of 26 and you are still trying to defend the disaster of a manager we have. You must live with low standards. It’s not even remotely acceptable

[Nori1958]

Yeah we win 3 games out of 26 and you are still trying to defend the disaster of a manager we have. You must live with low standards. It’s not even remotely acceptable

Yet the majority on here want him to stay, must be many with your so called low standards

[bumba]

Yet the majority on here want him to stay, must be many with your so called low standards

We get 17+ a week home fans on the Turf theres less than 100 of you on here saying stay. Stop believing your speaking for the majority, get out in the real world and talk to people you'll soon realise your not.

[Goliath]

Yeah we win 3 games out of 26 and you are still trying to defend the disaster of a manager we have. You must live with low standards. It’s not even remotely acceptable

On the flip side, we lost only 3 games last season. What a manager, never have i seen such high standards!

[Shaggy]

On the flip side, we lost only 3 games last season. What a manager, never have i seen such high standards!

What happens last season is of no relevance. Going by your logic we should get Owen Coyle back as he had a fantastic season with us in the championship.

Yeah thought so

[Goliath]

What happens last season is of no relevance. Going by your logic we should get Owen Coyle back as he had a fantastic season with us in the championship.

Yeah thought so

I didn't give an opinion on Kompany, i was pointing out the quite obvious weakness in your argument.
A bad season doesn't necessarily equal a bad manager. Especially one so inexperienced.

[Shaggy]

I didn't give an opinion on Kompany, i was pointing out the quite obvious weakness in your argument.
A bad season doesn't necessarily equal a bad manager. Especially one so inexperienced.

There’s no flaw at all. Bad season especially one this bad does indeed equal a bad manager and it gets even worse when you add context to it. It’s not like it’s bad as in we are going to fail to stay up, we’ve capitulated and been rolled over and embarrassed time and time again. We are bordering on one of the worst ever teams at this level in history. Which ever way you cut it the man at helm is solely responsible for it.

In elite sports you are only as good as your recent performances.

People think because we stormed the championship last season it will be the same next season are complete my miles off it. It doesn’t and never has worked like that. If it did then Mourinho would be completely untouchable with no one even comparable to him in the current climate. His previous record is untouchable, his current record is flat.

What’s peoples arguments going to be if god forbid Kompany is still our manager next season and he gets off to a sticky start. I can almost guarantee that there will be some happy clappers arguing to give him more time, he got 101 points, he’s a young manager blah blah blah.

Just now we are in a much worse situation than when he took over and it’s all of his own making. What’s made it worse is that he has been very heavily backed.

[Vegas Claret]

it has to be one of the worst fan bases in our history

[StayingDown4Ever]

Yeah we win 3 games out of 26 and you are still trying to defend the disaster of a manager we have. You must live with low standards. It’s not even remotely acceptable

Nori will be the last one to admit Vincent has been a humiliating failure at this level.

He’s defended Trafford all season in the hope he would come good but recently started to backtrack on that one. He knows Trafford as been pony all year and failed to come good and ultimately knows it’s all on Vincent for persisting with him.

[Goliath]

There’s no flaw at all. Bad season especially one this bad does indeed equal a bad manager and it gets even worse when you add context to it. It’s not like it’s bad as in we are going to fail to stay up, we’ve capitulated and been rolled over and embarrassed time and time again. We are bordering on one of the worst ever teams at this level in history. Which ever way you cut it the man at helm is solely responsible for it.

In elite sports you are only as good as your recent performances.

People think because we stormed the championship last season it will be the same next season are complete my miles off it. It doesn’t and never has worked like that. If it did then Mourinho would be completely untouchable with no one even comparable to him in the current climate. His previous record is untouchable, his current record is flat.

What’s peoples arguments going to be if god forbid Kompany is still our manager next season and he gets off to a sticky start. I can almost guarantee that there will be some happy clappers arguing to give him more time, he got 101 points, he’s a young manager blah blah blah.

Just now we are in a much worse situation than when he took over and it’s all of his own making. What’s made it worse is that he has been very heavily backed.

And we were one of the best teams ever at Championship level last season. However many words you want to use to make your point, its still not true that this seasons performance means hes a bad manager.
We basically lack experience at all levels from boardroom down and its really showed. Now they have to learn from it.

[Foshiznik]

Traffords selection isn’t the be all and end all of all that has been shite this season. I don’t understand why it appears to be the only hill you want to die on for some reason. There are a tonne of proverbial hills to choose from.

[fidelcastro]

Traffords selection isn’t the be all and end all of all that has been shite this season. I don’t understand why it appears to be the only hill you want to die on for some reason. There are a tonne of proverbial hills to choose from.

Yes, and they're all down to the manager.

[Vegas Claret]

Yes, and they're all down to the manager.

The managers fault Brownhill (insert literally anyone) can't pass to his own players ?
The managers fault half the squad have been out injured ?
The managers fault Foster has had issues ?

Quite a lot of things you can absolutely lay at the feet of VK but there's an awful lot you can't.

[Shaggy]

The managers fault Brownhill (insert literally anyone) can't pass to his own players ?
The managers fault half the squad have been out injured ?
The managers fault Foster has had issues ?

Quite a lot of things you can absolutely lay at the feet of VK but there's an awful lot you can't.

It’s the managers fault that we have won only 3 games out of 26 this season.

It’s the managers fault that HIS team has capitulated and is one of the worst ever teams in premier league history.

It’s the managers fault that we have no team spirit, fight or cohesiveness.

Etc etc etc and so on.

You cannot defend 13 points from 26 games. There is no defence. It’s been a disgraceful failure.

[Andreshotboots]

Yeah and don't forget we came back into pre season far earlier than everyone else to ensure we were as fit as, if not fitter than any club in the division..that's not really worked too well either..that was down solely to VK..

[bumba]

The managers fault Brownhill (insert literally anyone) can't pass to his own players ?
The managers fault half the squad have been out injured ?
The managers fault Foster has had issues ?

Quite a lot of things you can absolutely lay at the feet of VK but there's an awful lot you can't.

Maybe not the managers fault Brownhill can't pass to his own players but it's the manager that keeps selecting him and manager that's selected him as captain

[claretonthecoast1882]

We could kill 2 birds with one stone here.

There are some who attend games who don't enjoy the half time entertainment. There are also a noisy group on here who want Kompany gone.

Could those who want him gone not form some sort of action group and maybe have a protest at half time on the pitch on Sunday ? I accept that the majority of the noisy ones don't even attend but maybe the club could offer an olive branch to them and allow them into the ground for free, they could then entertain others with their actions for 15 minutes.

[Nori1958]

We could kill 2 birds with one stone here.

There are some who attend games who don't enjoy the half time entertainment. There are also a noisy group on here who want Kompany gone.

Could those who want him gone not form some sort of action group and maybe have a protest at half time on the pitch on Sunday ? I accept that the majority of the noisy ones don't even attend but maybe the club could offer an olive branch to them and allow them into the ground for free, they could then entertain others with their actions for 15 minutes.

I'd be happy just for one of them to shout their abuse near where I sit, that would be great entertainment

[The Shire Claret]

We get 17+ a week home fans on the Turf theres less than 100 of you on here saying stay. Stop believing your speaking for the majority, get out in the real world and talk to people you'll soon realise your not.

I don't think you will meet a Burnley fan who is enjoying watching us get battered every weekend .... Majority Fans who want still VK to stay are not happy at the minute.

It's not so black and white

But speaking to fans on the turf and in normal life ... people want VK to stay and some don't know this message board exists.

[StayingDown4Ever]

I'd be happy just for one of them to shout their abuse near where I sit, that would be great entertainment

You’ll get your wish before the season is over.

[Nori1958]

Nori will be the last one to admit Vincent has been a humiliating failure at this level.

He’s defended Trafford all season in the hope he would come good but recently started to backtrack on that one. He knows Trafford as been pony all year and failed to come good and ultimately knows it’s all on Vincent for persisting with him.

Stop making things up about me

I've not backtracked once, I've asked you to come up with one post where I've defended his performance, or one post where I've said he's better than Muric, or worse. I've questioned posters such as yourself who have made stuff up to make one of our players look bad, or used abusive language towards them, but have been consistent in saying that our problems this season are not down to the goalkeeper, whoever that might be.

I've never said Kompany is a success at this level, I've said I'd rather have him as manager in the championship than anyone else.

Now unless you're going to base your comments me based on facts please lay off

[fidelcastro]

The managers fault Brownhill (insert literally anyone) can't pass to his own players ?
The managers fault half the squad have been out injured ?
The managers fault Foster has had issues ?

Quite a lot of things you can absolutely lay at the feet of VK but there's an awful lot you can't.

It's the manager who picks Brownhill, when he wasn't good enough at this level two years ago.

All clubs get injuries. That's why you're supposed to assemble a competitive squad.

Yes, Foster has had issues, but whether we knew about them when we signed him, only the club (including the manager) will know.

Other than that... Great point, Viva!

[AGENT_CLARET]

For me even though this season is probably one of the worst seasons for result's in over 40 year's I still think there is no point in sacking Kompany at the moment , if we did that what's the point of bringing in a new manager to put a relegation on his CV, no manger in the world would turn this around before the end of the season, it'd also cost us millions to pay him off and his staff, plus I belive a lot of the players would push to leave if he's not in charge.

This season is over and has been for month's so leave him to bring us back up from the championship and once back in the Premier league if it clearly shows he's learnt nothing from this disastrous season and the results reflect this after say nine or ten game's then sack him then and bring in a new manager with around 75%, of the season left to play

[sjb]

We get 17+ a week home fans on the Turf theres less than 100 of you on here saying stay. Stop believing your speaking for the majority, get out in the real world and talk to people you'll soon realise your not.

So I take it you've canvassed at least 8501 of the 17k fans and they have all said they want VK out? These ridiculous sweeping generalisations just detract from any argument you might have.

[bumba]

So I take it you've canvassed at least 8501 of the 17k fans and they have all said they want VK out? These ridiculous sweeping generalisations just detract from any argument you might have.

No but the fact Kompany is a w*nker was ringing out in the Dyche before the final whistle last week is a tell tale sign. The empty seats midway through a game tells a tale.

[Falcon]

That people who leave early are the most vocal Kompany critics?

That people pished up in the pub are more likely to shout nonsense?

[Nori1958]

That people who leave early are the most vocal Kompany critics?

That people pished up in the pub are more likely to shout nonsense?

Probably the same drugged up morons who were singing the jack walker song an hour earlier

[Quickenthetempo]

No but the fact Kompany is a w*nker was ringing out in the Dyche before the final whistle last week is a tell tale sign. The empty seats midway through a game tells a tale.

Where abouts was that?

I left on 57 minutes and headed to the Royal Dyche for a couple of pints with a mate, I never heard it. So it can't have been ringing around.

[IanMcL]

If we perform out our skin and with all the luck, max 21 at a big push.
That makes 34. A relegation number.

[claretonthecoast1882]

No but the fact Kompany is a w*nker was ringing out in the Dyche before the final whistle last week is a tell tale sign. The empty seats midway through a game tells a tale.

Why not get it going during the match on Sunday ?

Why do it in the pub, who knows the board might act on it if they hear you,

[bumba]

Why not get it going during the match on Sunday ?

Why do it in the pub, who knows the board might act on it if they hear you,

I didn't join in, I said it was ringing around the pub

[bumba]

Where abouts was that?

I left on 57 minutes and headed to the Royal Dyche for a couple of pints with a mate, I never heard it. So it can't have been ringing around.

I left after the 5th goal, it definitely was ringing out inside. I even know the lads name who started the chant but wouldn't put it on here then people joined in.
It was before the final whistle because we was still watching the results come in on the TV

[AmbleClaret]

No but the fact Kompany is a w*nker was ringing out in the Dyche before the final whistle last week is a tell tale sign. The empty seats midway through a game tells a tale.

Sadly sums up some of the clientele in there,and their cumulative IQ. Anyone of them wanting to say it to his face. Pathetic.

[AmbleClaret]

I left after the 5th goal, it definitely was ringing out inside. I even know the lads name who started the chant but wouldn't put it on here then people joined in.
It was before the final whistle because we was still watching the results come in on the TV

It'll be Thicko MacThickface, he's well known.

[IanMcL]

It'll be Thicko MacThickface, he's well known.

No. He will be English!

[KRBFC]

What happens last season is of no relevance.

Why is it not relevant? Winning the title with 3 losses and 100+ points is now suddenly irrelevant to BFC fans? It’s the division we will be playing in next season.

[Shaggy]

Why is it not relevant? Winning the title with 3 losses and 100+ points is now suddenly irrelevant to BFC fans? It’s the division we will be playing in next season.

It’s irrelevant because it happened last season. It’s in the past and things have changed, in our case dramatically for the worse. The dynamics of the squad are rock bottom.

We have a manager showing huge amounts of Hubris thinking he is Pep. He will not change and he has too otherwise it’s going to be a disappointing season next year.

[Hapag Lloyd]

What happens last season is of no relevance. Going by your logic we should get Owen Coyle back as he had a fantastic season with us in the championship.

Yeah thought so

Nowhere near as good as last season.
Out of interest who would you pick to replace Kompany.

[bumba]

Sadly sums up some of the clientele in there,and their cumulative IQ. Anyone of them wanting to say it to his face. Pathetic.

Why does this keep getting rolled out this season, 'bet they/you wouldn't say to his/their face', honestly they've shown this season they ant got any fight in them why do fans keep making out they are tough boxers

[houseboy]

Why fortunately?

For the reasons I posted on another thread. Basically getting rid won’t save us, we’d have to pay compensation and his Championship record is astonishingly good.

[fidelcastro]

For the reasons I posted on another thread. Basically getting rid won’t save us, we’d have to pay compensation and his Championship record is astonishingly good.

Nobody is expecting us to be saved from relegation now.

However, the way we have been so embarrassing and the way he has dismantled the squad that got us here, gives me little confidence that we'll bounce straight back next term.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Why fortunately?

They just love to listen to their own opinion repeated back to themselves, must be comforting. Echo chamber springs to mind!

[fidelcastro]

They just love to listen to their own opinion repeated back to themselves, must be comforting. Echo chamber springs to mind!

And the ones who shout loudest are the ones who don't attend.