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Zaroury

Post by burnley007 » Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:27 pm

I'm currently at The Preston Hull game. Don't ask.

Zaroury lasted an hour. Got subbed after putting in another crap cross.

He is just not Premier League standard.

He's got a good backing from me though until now.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by NewClaret » Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:39 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:27 pm
I'm currently at The Preston Hull game. Don't ask.

Zaroury lasted an hour. Got subbed after putting in another crap cross.

He is just not Premier League standard.

He's got a good backing from me though until now.
He’s been pretty poor whenever I’ve watched them, tbh.

Not posted it on here because there’s enough negativity, but on the evidence of his Hull performances there’s absolutely no reason he should be anywhere near our first team in the Prem.

Robert’s can’t get a start at Leeds yet I saw a post this morning saying he should be starting for us 🤯🤯

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Re: Zaroury

Post by warksclaret » Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:48 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:39 pm
He’s been pretty poor whenever I’ve watched them, tbh.

Not posted it on here because there’s enough negativity, but on the evidence of his Hull performances there’s absolutely no reason he should be anywhere near our first team in the Prem.

Robert’s can’t get a start at Leeds yet I saw a post this morning saying he should be starting for us 🤯🤯
Last two sub appearances-one assist and one goal. Not bad for a RB and he has looked good

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Re: Zaroury

Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:05 pm

I would suggest that when we've seen someone play 48 times for Burnley it's quite wrong and silly to base your opinion of him on 7 games for Hull.
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Re: Zaroury

Post by Bosscat » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:06 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:05 pm
I would suggest that when we've seen someone play 48 times for Burnley it's quite wrong and silly to base your opinion of him on 7 games for Hull.
Some just another stick to beat us with Dave 🙄
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Re: Zaroury

Post by ISpeds00 » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:08 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:05 pm
I would suggest that when we've seen someone play 48 times for Burnley it's quite wrong and silly to base your opinion of him on 7 games for Hull.
and watching him play once for them

he's a great player

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Re: Zaroury

Post by NewClaret » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:08 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:48 pm
Last two sub appearances-one assist and one goal. Not bad for a RB and he has looked good
Robert’s has, yes, but why’s he not starting?

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Re: Zaroury

Post by NewClaret » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:12 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:05 pm
I would suggest that when we've seen someone play 48 times for Burnley it's quite wrong and silly to base your opinion of him on 7 games for Hull.
I am hoping it’s a system thing, to be honest.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:12 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:39 pm
He’s been pretty poor whenever I’ve watched them, tbh.

Not posted it on here because there’s enough negativity, but on the evidence of his Hull performances there’s absolutely no reason he should be anywhere near our first team in the Prem.

Robert’s can’t get a start at Leeds yet I saw a post this morning saying he should be starting for us 🤯🤯
Tbf that Leeds team really isn’t far away from ours.

Loooking at there starting eleven today is there really many of our squad that get in that starting eleven?

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Re: Zaroury

Post by Goody1975 » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:13 pm

Zaroury next season will be based on whether or not Odobert and Koleosho are still with us.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by Carlos the Great » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:23 pm

There is a player somewhere in Zaroury .. it’s up to the manager to get the best out of him

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Re: Zaroury

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:26 pm

The way Anass got clattered onto the asphalt at home to Blackburn then moments later set up the Barnes first goal shows that he has some grit. We know he has the talent.

But reality is he came back from the World Cup half the player, and he needs to find what he had before. No argument for me that Koleosho or Odobert offer more at present.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by Row Z » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:51 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:05 pm
I would suggest that when we've seen someone play 48 times for Burnley it's quite wrong and silly to base your opinion of him on 7 games for Hull.
I think 7 games is enough to base an opinion on his current form and whether he could be starting and impacting games for us….

Getting subbed off just after the hour against Rotherham and Huddersfield doesn’t suggest he would be turning in the standard of performance at Anfield or Selhurst Park ( as examples).

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Re: Zaroury

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:54 pm

Recall him if he's not playing ditto Twine not on for Brizzle today

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Re: Zaroury

Post by ISpeds00 » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:55 pm

Goody1975 wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:13 pm
Zaroury next season will be based on whether or not Odobert and Koleosho are still with us.
i'd rather have the latter

OR all 3 AND Benson
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Re: Zaroury

Post by Row Z » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:55 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:54 pm
Recall him if he's not playing ditto Twine not on for Brizzle today
Twine’s injured isn’t he?

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Re: Zaroury

Post by TPClaret » Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:01 pm

People moaning about VK not playing players from last season, but none have gone to other premier league clubs all on loan to championship clubs.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by NewClaret » Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:36 pm

Row Z wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:55 pm
Twine’s injured isn’t he?
I hope so or it’s only really Obafemi and Zaroury of our loans getting game time.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by NewClaret » Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:37 pm

TPClaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:01 pm
People moaning about VK not playing players from last season, but none have gone to other premier league clubs all on loan to championship clubs.
Fair point.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by NewClaret » Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:41 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:12 pm
Tbf that Leeds team really isn’t far away from ours.

Loooking at there starting eleven today is there really many of our squad that get in that starting eleven?
Dunno, I think we’re better but not going to argue with you.

Point is, Roberts has swapped a Prem bench for a Champ bench which is annoying. We want our loanees playing.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:07 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:41 pm
Point is, Roberts has swapped a Prem bench for a Champ bench which is annoying. We want our loanees playing.
Made their first goal yesterday
And if he stays at Leeds next season he could be with a Prem club instead of a Championship club
Watched Zaroury other week against WBA and he did nothing - subbed off in second half that game also

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Re: Zaroury

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:25 am

The mental gymnastics displayed on here to defend a manager's god awful decisions currently serving up one of the worst attempts to ever remain in the top flight is quite something.
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Re: Zaroury

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:06 am

Still young and adapting to life in England. He has a lot of talent and potential. Having a tough time elsewhere before coming back to us will only aid his development and character.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:09 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:26 pm
The way Anass got clattered onto the asphalt at home to Blackburn then moments later set up the Barnes first goal shows that he has some grit. We know he has the talent.

But reality is he came back from the World Cup half the player, and he needs to find what he had before. No argument for me that Koleosho or Odobert offer more at present.
Koleosho looked good but I'm not sure what on earth you've seen from Odobert since he scored at Fulham before Christmas to suggest he's offering more at present.
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Post by Clive 1960 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:38 am

my friend is a PNE season ticket holder and he said he was OK but not Premier league standard as it's a big leap but you need to play to prove it and up your game that is the difference and you have to remember Zaroury is still young and learning..

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Re: Zaroury

Post by Clive 1960 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:40 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:41 pm
Dunno, I think we’re better but not going to argue with you.

Point is, Roberts has swapped a Prem bench for a Champ bench which is annoying. We want our loanees playing.
Roberts for me as spat is dummy out..

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Re: Zaroury

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:41 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:09 am
Koleosho looked good but I'm not sure what on earth you've seen from Odobert since he scored at Fulham before Christmas to suggest he's offering more at present.
Odobert should be dropped. A complete luxury that we can’t afford currently.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by KlyBfc » Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:42 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:09 am
Koleosho looked good but I'm not sure what on earth you've seen from Odobert since he scored at Fulham before Christmas to suggest he's offering more at present.
Agree.
Odobert odd glimpse running at players, but widely offers very little for me and certainly causes us all sorts of issues defensively with his lack of support. But he’s young and should be coming off the bench in a 4-3-3.


As for Zaroury he’s a typical winger drifts in and out of games. Looks brilliant when someone gets on the end of a cross or cuts in and shoots on target, looks on the edge of the game when those things aren’t really happening. I watched him v Southampton for Hull and thought he looked decent, but then I don’t prescribe to him being way off it after the World Cup either (Birmingham, Norwich, Bournemouth, Preston, Huddersfield are all games that spring to mind post World Cup where he was effective and played well imo).

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Re: Zaroury

Post by NL Claret » Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:47 am

I think Odobert’s transfer fee could start to rise on UTC.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by hetheclaret » Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:16 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:39 pm
He’s been pretty poor whenever I’ve watched them, tbh.

Not posted it on here because there’s enough negativity, but on the evidence of his Hull performances there’s absolutely no reason he should be anywhere near our first team in the Prem.

Robert’s can’t get a start at Leeds yet I saw a post this morning saying he should be starting for us 🤯🤯
That Leeds team would probably batter us so wouldn’t read much into that.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:27 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:41 am
Odobert should be dropped. A complete luxury that we can’t afford currently.
He’s the only one that looks capable of creating something though. Not sure who we replace him with.

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Re: Zaroury

Post by taio » Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:30 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:41 am
Odobert should be dropped. A complete luxury that we can’t afford currently.
His performance level has certainly dropped. Personally I'd still start him today because he's one of our players most likely to open up Bournemouth. If he doesn't perform and show enough desire in the first half he should be withdrawn and left out against West Ham.

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