Luton Town

[Belgianclaret]

Just how many points have they gained in Fergie time this season?
Testimony of their never say die attitude- credit to them

[Woodleyclaret]

Alehouse brawler team who cheat and con their way to points

[Belgianclaret]

I’ll have some of that ale then

[Woodleyclaret]

If we played like Luton I would never watch Burnley again.We have been unlucky in games and robbed by VAR in games including Luton at home.

[Rileybobs]

They tend to stay in games. I know this thread isn't a comparison to us, but we're not usually within a goal of the opposition going into injury time. I can't remember many games this season when it seemed possible that points could be won or lost in injury time.

[StayingDown4Ever]

If we played like Luton I would never watch Burnley again.We have been unlucky in games and robbed by VAR in games including Luton at home.

Good one!

[Burnley1989]

If we played like Luton I would never watch Burnley again.We have been unlucky in games and robbed by VAR in games including Luton at home.

[jrgbfc]

If we played like Luton I would never watch Burnley again.We have been unlucky in games and robbed by VAR in games including Luton at home.

Is it that much different to how we played under Dyche a lot of the time?

[Stayingup]

If we played like Luton I would never watch Burnley again.We have been unlucky in games and robbed by VAR in games including Luton at home.

That's right. It's much more enjoyable watching us lose
5-1, 4-1, 5-0 at home and the rest. We are 8 points behind a team we were some 20 points ahead of last season but we are better to watch.

[Casper2]

That's right. It's much more enjoyable watching us lose
5-1, 4-1, 5-0 at home and the rest. We are 8 points behind a team we were some 20 points ahead of last season but we are better to watch.

With the added bonus of spending over 100million , some achievement.

[warksclaret]

With the added bonus of spending over 100million , some achievement.

Against a spend of £23m

[Carlos the Great]

I think VK will be squirming if Luton stay up .. spending virtually nothing it goes against the grain we can’t compete in this league etc

[Swizzlestick]

I think VK will be squirming if Luton stay up .. spending virtually nothing it goes against the grain we can’t compete in this league etc

I actually think he’ll be the bigger man and offer sincere congratulations to Rob Edwards and team, but maybe that’s just me. He knows he’s made errors, it’s up to him now to correct it and get back on track.

[AmbleClaret]

If we played like Luton I would never watch Burnley again.We have been unlucky in games and robbed by VAR in games including Luton at home.

Definitely prefer our new style, coming out looking like we have already lost in the first minute - Palace springs to mind. Yeah, sod this fighting spirit malarky, gets you nowhere.

[cblantfanclub]

I'm sure I've seen all this on another thread ?

[Bordeauxclaret]

They tend to stay in games. I know this thread isn't a comparison to us, but we're not usually within a goal of the opposition going into injury time. I can't remember many games this season when it seemed possible that points could be won or lost in injury time.

That’s quite a good point. I can’t remember many games where we’ve applied much pressure in the closing stages.

Fulham at home arguably. Bournemouth away maybe.

[THEWELLERNUT70]

It amazes me why people look upon them so fondly given why they ended up in the mess they did in the 1st place!

[fidelcastro]

I think they'll still go down, but unlike us, they'll go down fighting.

We're going down with a whimper.

[Notsosuperstevedavis]

We survived playing shithouse football with shithouse players playing at their absolute peak. Its championship route one football. Yes it’ll score more EPL points than what what we’re trying to do.
Their players will will stay while the goose is fat and they’re taking a good wage. The wheels will fall off when their squad ages and cant perform at the levels required.

Luton’s season is akin to Ruiz’s lucky temple punch on AJ when he took his titles. Every game is smash and grab with any points absolutely stolen.

I have no idea why people dont see it.
Yes we’ve spent a barrell full of money. We’ve got players who we’re hoping to grow into City and Arsenal - esque players.

Success is those players growing and selling them like Brighton did Caicedo, then growing again.

Burnley had always had players on the talent conveyor belt. (Mostly one at a time) and sold them regularly to stay afloat.
That got us here.


This is just the next stage. Getting the conveyor belt going again. It just hurts watching these kids having to learn in the prem.

Im not blind to whats going on. People see VK making poor subs (in their opinion) and sticking with Trafford.

He’s learning too. Those complaining just dont see the evolution and are yearning for SD football just for the short term fix of getting three points.

Come on burnley fans.

[CoolClaret]

We survived playing shithouse football with shithouse players playing at their absolute peak. Its championship route one football. Yes it’ll score more EPL points than what what we’re trying to do.

1) No we didn't
2) No it isn't
3) It's nothing about a perceived style/tactics. It's simply about getting the most out of the players you have on the books and change a style over time to match incoming players that you have.

So the rest of your post is conjecture.

Oh and Brighton certainly didn't flick a switch overnight, they've slowly changed their style after consolidating in the PL and also have spent a metric **** ton in doing so, whilst having a Billionaire owner who is a spread betting guru.

Any club that doesn't have the resources to match the top half of the PL will eventually drop, no matter the style.

For every Brighton there's a Stoke.

For us to have played 7 seasons with Dyche in the top flight, including a 6 year stay over the past decade suggests that approach is anything but a 'lucky smash and grab'.

[Targetman]

We survived playing shithouse football with shithouse players playing at their absolute peak. Its championship route one football. Yes it’ll score more EPL points than what what we’re trying to do.
Their players will will stay while the goose is fat and they’re taking a good wage. The wheels will fall off when their squad ages and cant perform at the levels required.

Luton’s season is akin to Ruiz’s lucky temple punch on AJ when he took his titles. Every game is smash and grab with any points absolutely stolen.

I have no idea why people dont see it.
Yes we’ve spent a barrell full of money. We’ve got players who we’re hoping to grow into City and Arsenal - esque players.

Success is those players growing and selling them like Brighton did Caicedo, then growing again.

Burnley had always had players on the talent conveyor belt. (Mostly one at a time) and sold them regularly to stay afloat.
That got us here.


This is just the next stage. Getting the conveyor belt going again. It just hurts watching these kids having to learn in the prem.

Im not blind to whats going on. People see VK making poor subs (in their opinion) and sticking with Trafford.

He’s learning too. Those complaining just dont see the evolution and are yearning for SD football just for the short term fix of getting three points.

Come on burnley fans.

Have you attended any of our games this season?

[mickleoverclaret]

We survived playing shithouse football with shithouse players playing at their absolute peak. Its championship route one football. Yes it’ll score more EPL points than what what we’re trying to do.

How can it be Championship football if it gets you more Premier League points than whatever it is we're trying to do?

[taio]

We survived playing shithouse football with shithouse players playing at their absolute peak. Its championship route one football. Yes it’ll score more EPL points than what what we’re trying to do.
Their players will will stay while the goose is fat and they’re taking a good wage. The wheels will fall off when their squad ages and cant perform at the levels required.

Luton’s season is akin to Ruiz’s lucky temple punch on AJ when he took his titles. Every game is smash and grab with any points absolutely stolen.

I have no idea why people dont see it.
Yes we’ve spent a barrell full of money. We’ve got players who we’re hoping to grow into City and Arsenal - esque players.

Success is those players growing and selling them like Brighton did Caicedo, then growing again.

Burnley had always had players on the talent conveyor belt. (Mostly one at a time) and sold them regularly to stay afloat.
That got us here.


This is just the next stage. Getting the conveyor belt going again. It just hurts watching these kids having to learn in the prem.

Im not blind to whats going on. People see VK making poor subs (in their opinion) and sticking with Trafford.

He’s learning too. Those complaining just dont see the evolution and are yearning for SD football just for the short term fix of getting three points.

Come on burnley fans.

I wouldn't describe it as shithouse football. It was our most successful period in my lifetime, and I certainly enjoyed going to games more than I do at the moment.

[jojomk1]

If we played like Luton I would never watch Burnley again.We have been unlucky in games and robbed by VAR in games including Luton at home.

I know what you mean
No other team has bad luck or VAR going against them
Playing the style we do, we should be mid table at least
Where did you buy those claret and blue specs

[JohnMac]

Their point yesterday was reminiscent of many of our performances of the Dyche era. They were absolutely tonked by a Palace side that were relentless in attack but somehow couldn't get that 2nd goal. A good ball into the box and a flick on with severe spin rescued a point. Let's not pretend they were ever anything other than very fortunate. If some fans are happy to regress to that scenario fine but I'll stick with what the potential may yet reap down the line

[beddie]

Luton did and are doing well. They certainly have the team spirit and attitude that we had under Dyche, unfortunately I don’t see that in our current squad, having said that and looking at our current position I’m more convinced that we came up a season too early. Just hope they learn and quickly in the championship what it’s all about, depending on who stays of course. Interesting to read that Esteve made reference to how much more physical and quicker it is from where he’s been playing.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

I wouldn't describe it as shithouse football. It was our most successful period in my lifetime, and I certainly enjoyed going to games more than I do at the moment.

Exactly, 7th in the PL playing 'shithouse' football. I would take that style over the tippy tappy side-to-side then backwards crap that we play right now.

[CoolClaret]

Exactly, 7th in the PL playing 'shithouse' football. I would take that style over the tippy tappy side-to-side then backwards crap that we play right now.

It's somewhat ironic given that we have 5 red cards this season alone, and have gone seasons without getting a red when Sean was manager.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

It's somewhat ironic given that we have 5 red cards this season alone, and have gone seasons without getting a red when Sean was manager.

Yep, mostly resulting from the fact we can't do the basics of defending. It wasn't very often we gifted teams a goal or a red card under SD, now it is a weekly occurrence.

[Notsosuperstevedavis]

Have you attended any of our games this season?

Season ticket holder. I hate this season. I’ve had enough.
But it doesnt change the fact I think that these kids have to be our future.

[claretgimmer]

Luton did and are doing well. They certainly have the team spirit and attitude that we had under Dyche, unfortunately I don’t see that in our current squad, having said that and looking at our current position I’m more convinced that we came up a season too early. Just hope they learn and quickly in the championship what it’s all about, depending on who stays of course. Interesting to read that Esteve made reference to how much more physical and quicker it is from where he’s been playing.

Having too big a squad doesn`t help team bonding or continuity, players not involved on match days can have a disruptive effect on morale, having fewer tight knit players playing week in week out helped give us our siege mentality/ all in it together feeling.

[Targetman]

Season ticket holder. I hate this season. I’ve had enough.
But it doesnt change the fact I think that these kids have to be our future.

Fans are complaining because in the main they don't understand why last seasons excellent team was dismantled in favour of young men who aren't, and possibly never will be, good enough to make an impact in the Premier League.

They also point to Kompany's sometimes strange substitutions, although possibly you dont see it that way.

Everyone is hating this season, its obviously been dreadful, but lets not pretend that recruiting these young, inexperienced players hasn't been the main factor in that.

[Vegas Claret]

Oh and Brighton certainly didn't flick a switch overnight, they've slowly changed their style after consolidating in the PL and also have spent a metric **** ton in doing so, whilst having a Billionaire owner who is a spread betting guru.

Any club that doesn't have the resources to match the top half of the PL will eventually drop, no matter the style.

it's amazing how many don't see this