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Would look so much better if we hadn’t had the points against Forest and Luton stolen from us by shocking VAR decisions
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If's and but's, I'm just happy that we have shape and are being competitive, no one can argue, we've been dreadful and deserved to be where we are.
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roperclaret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:20 pmWould look so much better if we hadn’t had the points against Forest and Luton stolen from us by shocking VAR decisions
It would (should) be : Forest 24
Luton 21
Burnley 21
Blades 14
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Give over
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Give over what? Yes we have been poor, but those 2 decisions have been accepted as being wrong
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Sky Sports reporting that Forest will learn the outcome of their charge of financial rule breach "early next week".
So the points for them may change...
So the points for them may change...
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With forest about to be deducted points it would have been very interestingroperclaret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:29 pmGive over what? Yes we have been poor, but those 2 decisions have been accepted as being wrong
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Minus 6 apparently... Will be appealed so probably 4ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:34 pmSky Sports reporting that Forest will learn the outcome of their charge of financial rule breach "early next week".
So the points for them may change...
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Whilst I agree we have had numerous chances to take points which we have failed to do. The fact that Forest are near us is in part due to them being on the wrong end of some odd ones (from what I remember). This season we have had some very nice situations we've thrown away (e.g. playing teams when they are out of form or missing key players).roperclaret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:20 pmWould look so much better if we hadn’t had the points against Forest and Luton stolen from us by shocking VAR decisions
VAR is well down the list for me.
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Might be Monday for the big decision but the Prem won't want to lose Everton and Forest, so say minus 6 points then an appeal might see them both be given just enough points to keep them both up.
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I don't get the appeal process with this.Mansfield claret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:36 pmMinus 6 apparently... Will be appealed so probably 4
It's almost a given that the appeal will be successful and it just seems like pre conceived compromise.
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But we will be back in the scramble, I'm optimistic.
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So am I, just not trying to build my hopes up too much!
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I think this is conservativeboatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:25 pmIt would (should) be : Forest 24
Luton 21
Burnley 21
Blades 14
Penalty last minute v Bournemouth also missed by VAR
2 pts from safety and still to play the team in 17th at home completely changes the picture
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Forest have had some poor decisions on VAR as several other clubs will have
Liverpool at Spurs was one big one
Liverpool at Spurs was one big one
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It would look better if we hadn’t dropped 20 points from winning positions - but let’s blame it all on VAR
I don’t disagree that VAR has cost us SOME points, but let’s be honest we are in this position from our own doing
I don’t disagree that VAR has cost us SOME points, but let’s be honest we are in this position from our own doing
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Everton 10 point deduction reduced to 6 points. Imagine Everton and Forest get deducted 6 points this time and we survive by one point from either of them. Then the Appeal is heard after the season has ended. Where would that leave us ?
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VAR apologised for the Forest error, and just about everyone in football saw the Luton equaliser as a foul.
Outside of those two "these things even themselves out" as they say
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Don't forget Villa's penalty.Roosterbooster wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:01 pmI think this is conservative
Penalty last minute v Bournemouth also missed by VAR
2 pts from safety and still to play the team in 17th at home completely changes the picture
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Don’t forget the one Hammers should have had in the last minute that VAR didn’t give.
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Spoken like a true Rovers fan!StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:09 pmDon’t forget the one Hammers should have had in the last minute that VAR didn’t give.
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The point of this thread is that is simply not true. Those robberies late in those games would have seen us 1 point from safety after Forest get their punishment. We’ve been poor, but so have they.
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Or the Toney equaliser today. Things haven't been great by any stretch of the imagination but it's swings & roundabouts it's as broad as it's long.StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:09 pmDon’t forget the one Hammers should have had in the last minute that VAR didn’t give.
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Why don't you read the OP?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:23 pmOr the Toney equaliser today. Things haven't been great by any stretch of the imagination but it's swings & roundabouts it's as broad as it's long.
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Yes but it's easily turned on it's head by the favourable decisions that fell our way it's not all bad.
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Such was the acceptance I think the BBC conducted a poll & roughly a third of the people thought the Luton goal should have stood.roperclaret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:29 pmGive over what? Yes we have been poor, but those 2 decisions have been accepted as being wrong
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What about the other 2/3'sJakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:37 pmSuch was the acceptance I think the BBC conducted a poll & roughly a third of the people thought the Luton goal should have stood.
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Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:40 pmExactly it’s not conclusive over 30% I’d still call significant whichever way it’s dressed up.
Is black just a darker shade of white?
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Look folks, those things are now done, we were wronged in those games, but if we all stay as we are from now until the final game, and we win that final game, we stay up (assuming the two further 6 point deductions happen). Everton are at Arsenal in the final game while we play Forest here.
Can’t give up, that’s for sure, and the only thing those robberies can do for us now is add fuel. Other than that we simply move on.
Can’t give up, that’s for sure, and the only thing those robberies can do for us now is add fuel. Other than that we simply move on.
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Yes of course you would but, let’s be honest, you’re a muppet.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:40 pmExactly it’s not conclusive over 30% I’d still call significant whichever way it’s dressed up.
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