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Toney

Post by dougcollins » Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:59 pm

Unfit, overweight, uninterested. Was Southgate watching?

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Re: Toney

Post by Claretitus » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:01 pm

If he was a third as good as he thinks he is, he’d be average. A legend in his own lunchtime.

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Re: Toney

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:04 pm

Uninterested was my take.

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Re: Toney

Post by alboclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:07 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:04 pm
Uninterested was my take.
Like rest of team
10 men and 1 down after 10mins they didn't respond well to that.

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Re: Toney

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:08 pm

he reminded me of Ings for us when he knew he was off to Liverpool, not fully committed.

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Re: Toney

Post by Bosscat » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:08 pm

Did he pick up.his winnings from Paddy Power 🙄

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Re: Toney

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:09 pm

Thinks he is better than he is

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Re: Toney

Post by bfcjg » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:09 pm

He was just a bit of a lump up front IMHO.

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Re: Toney

Post by Winstonswhite » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:14 pm

alboclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:07 pm
Like rest of team
10 men and 1 down after 10mins they didn't respond well to that.
And we did?! :roll:

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Re: Toney

Post by MrTopTier » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:15 pm

Be interesting to see who will buy him.
He looks a player in poor team, but wouldn’t really improve a team like Arsenal and at a rumoured 80million would be a serious gamble.

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Re: Toney

Post by Jeffbfc » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:16 pm

Was he a doubt due to injury.
Who cares anyway, 3 points.
UTC.

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Re: Toney

Post by sjb » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:23 pm

He said after the game he's confident he will be fully fit for the 1-1 draw with Man United in the next match.
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Re: Toney

Post by bfcjg » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:38 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:14 pm
And we did?! :roll:
I think the goals,passion, commitment and resolute goalkeeping said we did.
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Re: Toney

Post by Winstonswhite » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:49 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:38 pm
I think the goals,passion, commitment and resolute goalkeeping said we did.
*goal

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Re: Toney

Post by alboclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:50 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:14 pm
And we did?! :roll:
No?

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Re: Toney

Post by Winstonswhite » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:59 pm

alboclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:50 pm
No?
You’re saying Brentford didn’t look interested and didnt respond well? They scored as many goals as us after the penalty, played 90+ minutes with ten men and by all accounts our keeper put in a man of the match performance. I’d argue they didn’t do too bad!

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Re: Toney

Post by bfcjg » Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:01 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:49 pm
*goal
Goals, wr scored 2 after the sending off :D

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Re: Toney

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:08 pm

I was expecting a real handful today. A couple of clever quick free kicks aside he seemed totally disinterested between the sending off and the consolation goal. Thought he was out-battled by our defence which isn’t a great accusation to throw at him.

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Re: Toney

Post by Commy » Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:22 pm

Was he disinterested or did we mark him well?

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Re: Toney

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:23 pm

Commy wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:22 pm
Was he disinterested or did we mark him well?
He was pretty lazy.

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Re: Toney

Post by helmclaret » Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:35 pm

He’s a top player but looked overweight and not very interested today. He was still a nuisance and played a quick clever ball through to Wissa for that 1 on 1 in the first half.

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Re: Toney

Post by alboclaret » Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:05 am

Winstonswhite wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:59 pm
You’re saying Brentford didn’t look interested and didnt respond well? They scored as many goals as us after the penalty, played 90+ minutes with ten men and by all accounts our keeper put in a man of the match performance. I’d argue they didn’t do too bad!

Almost correct.
I thought their attitude was a little defeatist once the penalty/goal happened.
They are a much better side than they showed today, and they did plenty of rolling around and fed up body language. Especially first half.
Easy to get going again when your against a side that doesn't know how to win and you get yourself back into it late on.

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Re: Toney

Post by alboclaret » Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:07 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:08 pm
I was expecting a real handful today. A couple of clever quick free kicks aside he seemed totally disinterested between the sending off and the consolation goal. Thought he was out-battled by our defence which isn’t a great accusation to throw at him.
Hard ro judge though when they have 10 for so long. Games plan is out of window you would imagine

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Re: Toney

Post by ClaretFelix » Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:27 am

I thought he was decent today, not helped by the sending off. He's an absolute unit, and was able to hold of O'Shea and Esteve quite easily, and I think won more than his fair share of headers. Problem being he was quite isolated with them having to adopt a defensive formation to cover the loss of Reguillon. Had he had more options up with him, I fear we may have struggled

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Re: Toney

Post by helmclaret » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:20 am

alboclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:05 am
Almost correct.
I thought their attitude was a little defeatist once the penalty/goal happened.
They are a much better side than they showed today, and they did plenty of rolling around and fed up body language. Especially first half.
Easy to get going again when your against a side that doesn't know how to win and you get yourself back into it late on.
Much better side than they showed?

They’ve lost 14 out of the last 19 games!

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Re: Toney

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:27 am

Toney was a handful. If was overweight, unfit or disinterested then he’ll be really good when he’s on it.

I was annoyed with the amount of fouls he got away with. Had he been a defender or midfielder he would have been booked way before he was.

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Re: Toney

Post by beddie » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:36 am

He looked to swing an elbow at Assignon in the first half in front of the JHS, Assignon had been nibbling at Toney from behind several times and eventually Toney looked to react. Anyone else see that.

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Re: Toney

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:46 am

beddie wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:36 am
He looked to swing an elbow at Assignon in the first half in front of the JHS, Assignon had been nibbling at Toney from behind several times and eventually Toney looked to react. Anyone else see that.
Yes, we discussed this at ht.

Assignon didn’t really react to it (very unlike him). Had he done, Toney could’ve been in trouble.

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Re: Toney

Post by alboclaret » Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:14 am

helmclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:20 am
Much better side than they showed?

They’ve lost 14 out of the last 19 games!
Yeah I think they were bad... I think they can be better. Even if that means they get beat. We were hanging on against men.

All I was saying is it came across as their attitude was not great yesterday from the get go.

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Re: Toney

Post by ClaretJimmy » Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:46 am

Pretty physical and aggressive but didn't do much with the ball

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Re: Toney

Post by Targetman » Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:57 am

helmclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:20 am
Much better side than they showed?

They’ve lost 14 out of the last 19 games!

Yes Brentford have been playing poorly for quite some time now, but they are beset by injuries.
Their defence has been decimated with long term injuries including Ben Mee, Ethan Pinnock and Rico Henry.

Plus they have Dasilva, Hickey, Schade and Norgaard who have been out injured for quite some time.

Mbeumo has been out for almost 4 months, he came off the bench for them in the 2nd half yesterday and made some brilliant runs through our midfield.

Also until recently Toney has been missing due to his lengthy ban for betting.

So yes when at full strength they are a much better team than they showed yesterday, I would say possibly a top 10 team.

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Re: Toney

Post by dougcollins » Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:10 am

ClaretJimmy wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:46 am
Pretty physical and aggressive but didn't do much with the ball
That came across as petulant to me. It was like he couldn't keep up so had to wrestle & kick people.

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Re: Toney

Post by Row Z » Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:49 am

dougcollins wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:10 am
That came across as petulant to me. It was like he couldn't keep up so had to wrestle & kick people.
I was surprised with Brentford generally.. down to 10 men and in poor form, but they went long so often it was awful to watch.

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Re: Toney

Post by dougcollins » Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:52 am

Row Z wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:49 am
I was surprised with Brentford generally.. down to 10 men and in poor form, but they went long so often it was awful to watch.
They actually started the game like that, with 11 men- it looked like a deliberate tactic from Frank, and it's how he expected to beat us.

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Re: Toney

Post by IanMcL » Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:00 pm

He was well marshalled.

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Re: Toney

Post by Tackler49 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:40 am

Toney was lucky to be still on the pitch at the end just a thug i thought he was better then that

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Re: Toney

Post by bumba » Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:49 am

helmclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:20 am
Much better side than they showed?

They’ve lost 14 out of the last 19 games!
And we still struggled to a 2-1 win even though they had 10 men for over 90 minutes!

The Brentford fans were all saying how rubbish we were. I thought they played the game well considering the circumstances.

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Re: Toney

Post by Stproc » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:50 am

Toney is a decent footballer with an eye for goal.
He is big and strong and puts himself about forcefully as was seen in their rightly disallowed goal on Saturday. He then somehow seems to lose all his strength, power & balance when he gets anywhere near the ‘special gravity zone’ and over he goes. With those attributes he’s destined for one of the Greedy 6.

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