Double barrelled surnames.
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Double barrelled surnames.
There has been a spouting of players with double barrelled surnames over the last few years.
What I have found strange is how many of them have a surname for a christian name.
TRENT Alexander-Arnold
BAILEY Peacock-Farrell
TAYLOR Harwood-Bellis
KEANE Lewis-Potter
JONSON Clarke-Harris(P’boro)
CONNOR Lemonheigh-Evans(Stockport)
MACAULEY Southam-Hales(Stockport)
Yes, I am bored. Arsenal are on.
What I have found strange is how many of them have a surname for a christian name.
TRENT Alexander-Arnold
BAILEY Peacock-Farrell
TAYLOR Harwood-Bellis
KEANE Lewis-Potter
JONSON Clarke-Harris(P’boro)
CONNOR Lemonheigh-Evans(Stockport)
MACAULEY Southam-Hales(Stockport)
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Lemonheigh is a wonderful name.
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Have you met jdrobbo? You'll get on well with him, posing questions like this.....Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:07 pmThere has been a spouting of players with double barrelled surnames over the last few years.
What I have found strange is how many of them have a surname for a christian name.
TRENT Alexander-Arnold
BAILEY Peacock-Farrell
TAYLOR Harwood-Bellis
KEANE Lewis-Potter
JONSON Clarke-Harris(P’boro)
CONNOR Lemonheigh-Evans(Stockport)
MACAULEY Southam-Hales(Stockport)
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
It's a fancy way of letting people know your from a broken home
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Just another stupid trend to emerge over the last decade.
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Everyone remembers the referee Lee Freaking Mason
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I like Connor Lemonheigh-Evans because often commentators don't pronounce the 'h' so it sounds like he's called Connor Evans but he smells a bit citrusy.
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
First one I recall from a long time ago was Ian Storey-Moore.
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The big mystery will be when the next generation of double barrel meets double barrel.
Will we have quadruple barrelled names?
Will we have quadruple barrelled names?
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Used to be seen as Upper Class now it’s the polar opposite.
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Brian Barry-Murphy
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Used to be posh people with double barrelled. Now it's kind of the opposite.
It's like once upon a time only hard people had tattoos, and now it's kind of the opposite.
(Sorry boss, just seen your post - I totally agree).
It's like once upon a time only hard people had tattoos, and now it's kind of the opposite.
(Sorry boss, just seen your post - I totally agree).
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Some pretty distasteful comments here. No doubt double-barrelled surnames are now more popular as more people have children outside of wedlock and give their children both surnames, or couples choose not to inherit their partner’s name when marrying. Not sure why this would have anything to do with someone’s ‘social class’, which itself is an outdated concept.
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Forbes Phillipson Masters with the poshest football name ever
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
I always wonder this!getbennyon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:54 pmThe big mystery will be when the next generation of double barrel meets double barrel.
Will we have quadruple barrelled names?
Just silly isn't it?
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I worked with a lass who was double barrelled. Turns out her and her wife were both double-barrelled when they were single. They took one of their original double barrelled names to make their double barrelled name.getbennyon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:54 pmThe big mystery will be when the next generation of double barrel meets double barrel.
Will we have quadruple barrelled names?
They split up. I'm not surprised tbh, just that naming part sounded like hard work.
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Easier if Vitinho
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
My daughter was born out of wedlock and given my surname. When I split with her mum, we added after my surname her mums surname, so that my daughter would have the same surname as her mum and brother (not mine) as they were living together.claptrappers_union wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:14 pmIt's a fancy way of letting people know your from a broken home
For the above reason I insisted that the now double surname was not hyphenated, and that my daughter be known by her mums surname only. My surname exists only legally for her.
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A couple at work got married last June. They still haven’t decided if they are going to be Robinson-Jeanes or Jeanes-Robinson
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
The surname-as-Christian-name thing is a trend among lower income demographics who are also most likely to be divorced, hence the propensity to also have double barreled surnamesTricky Trevor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:07 pmThere has been a spouting of players with double barrelled surnames over the last few years.
What I have found strange is how many of them have a surname for a christian name.
TRENT Alexander-Arnold
BAILEY Peacock-Farrell
TAYLOR Harwood-Bellis
KEANE Lewis-Potter
JONSON Clarke-Harris(P’boro)
CONNOR Lemonheigh-Evans(Stockport)
MACAULEY Southam-Hales(Stockport)
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Please explain how a surname as a Christian name is a trend among lower income demographics.
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When Jonson Clarke-Harris needs to be substituted Peterborough bring on Ephron Mason-Clark.
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
It's an anecdotal observation borne out in the OP.
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I think the most surprising thing about this post is the amount of folk that use the phrase Christian name.
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There have always been trends in names. The footballers mentioned would suggest that this is a trend starting about 25-30 years ago? Doing genealogy research, in the early twentieth century it was popular to give the first born son the mother's maiden name as his middle name. In my family this has continued, but now given to girls as well. But the branch to which it applies doesn't hyphenate, so you can read it as double barrelled or that they give their full name. In the nineteenth century I've seen instances of illegitimate children being given their father's surname as a middle name in baptism registers where the father is not named because the parents aren't married. Either to "name and shame" to ensure there was a record of who he was if the parish needed to pursue him for financial support or if the parents did marry after the birth, the mother's surname would be quietly dropped from later records and the child would be known by their father's surname. First or middle names may be traditional within a family. My brother's first name is that of our uncle, killed whilst serving with the RAF in WW2. It is my middle name. There seems to be a recent trend for giving children the same starting initial. My best recent example is parents overheard on holiday calling to their children Aubrey and Aurelia, delightful, well behaved pre-schoolers. In the early 1960s my mother was completely convinced she was carrying a boy and was very surprised to be delivered of a girl. No girl names had been considered and she and Dad were struggling. She said the best advice she was given was by a night nurse at Bank Hall. Whatever they chose, they should remember that this cute baby would one day by fair, feisty, fat and forty. You have been warned!
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Can't believe some are claiming double barrelled names as something of a modern day trend.
Probably blow the minds of these same people when they discover some nobleman particularly in the 19th century had quadruple and quintuple barrelled names like Augustus Henry Lane-Fox-Pitt-Rivers or Richard Temple-Nugent-Brydges-Chandos-Grenville, 3rd Duke of Buckingham and Chandos.
Probably blow the minds of these same people when they discover some nobleman particularly in the 19th century had quadruple and quintuple barrelled names like Augustus Henry Lane-Fox-Pitt-Rivers or Richard Temple-Nugent-Brydges-Chandos-Grenville, 3rd Duke of Buckingham and Chandos.
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Well, it is a modern-day trend, especially in football. We are seeing much more of it these days.
Maybe it's because the names are printed above the numbers on the back of the shirts. Maybe footballers want to credit both parents in that regard. They probably wouldn't use both names if they lived outside the public eye. I dunno, it's a personal choice, isn't it?
However, we had a player named Anthony Glennon, who was registered with the Premier League as Anthony Driscoll-Glennon. He didn't use his double-barrelled name in club publications—I'm not sure if he still does for Grimsby now
Maybe it's because the names are printed above the numbers on the back of the shirts. Maybe footballers want to credit both parents in that regard. They probably wouldn't use both names if they lived outside the public eye. I dunno, it's a personal choice, isn't it?
However, we had a player named Anthony Glennon, who was registered with the Premier League as Anthony Driscoll-Glennon. He didn't use his double-barrelled name in club publications—I'm not sure if he still does for Grimsby now
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Double barrelled names are so childish . Just like football teams with more than one name .
Preston Knob End sounds like an under 8 team
Preston Knob End sounds like an under 8 team
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I’m not sure that they were rich footballers when they were named at birth
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the most cuck thing known to man.roperclaret wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:39 pmA couple at work got married last June. They still haven’t decided if they are going to be Robinson-Jeanes or Jeanes-Robinson
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
To be fair the average age of our posters is probably around 65-75, so it's not entirely surprising that they haven't gotten to grasp the changing times.
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Apologies ChrisG but I was a child of the 50s and raised in a Christian family.
Forename or foreskin which ever suits, you knew what I meant.
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
And what's more, they still use the British past participle of 'to get'. Although its use in the US form is cumbersome in this sentence. 'They haven't grasped the changing times' would read better.
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
It's been Vorname and Nachname for me of late on the million and one forms the Germans love so muchTricky Trevor wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:38 pmApologies ChrisG but I was a child of the 50s and raised in a Christian family.
Forename or foreskin which ever suits, you knew what I meant.
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The most amusing thing in the thread is the apparent rage of some ,that the trend in double barrel names is a “ working class “ thing . Using a name often a surname as the “ Christian” name has been a thing for 20+ yrs easily .
I’d have thought these champions of the lower orders would be aware of their need to “ mimic posh” with their jewellery , fake watches , hideous head to toe designer ensembles etc not to mention the Range Rover as the vehicle of choice for you’re wannabe gangster .
I’d have thought these champions of the lower orders would be aware of their need to “ mimic posh” with their jewellery , fake watches , hideous head to toe designer ensembles etc not to mention the Range Rover as the vehicle of choice for you’re wannabe gangster .
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Yep. Posh people.Foshiznik wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:35 amCan't believe some are claiming double barrelled names as something of a modern day trend.
Probably blow the minds of these same people when they discover some nobleman particularly in the 19th century had quadruple and quintuple barrelled names like Augustus Henry Lane-Fox-Pitt-Rivers or Richard Temple-Nugent-Brydges-Chandos-Grenville, 3rd Duke of Buckingham and Chandos.
Unlike today.
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall (Leicester) - a wonderful name. His cousin is Barnsley Town-Hall.
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Re: Double barrelled surnames.
I understood that the prevalence of these " double-barrelled " names, was because of the increasing number of children born to un-married couples who took both parent's names. I'm sure I read Sean Wright-Phillips added his mother's name as a tribute to his mother for bringing him up largely on her own, which I suspect is true for a few others ...
The early 20th Century trend of giving mother's maiden names as middle names is correct, my maternal Grandfather ( b.1904 ) was George Jubb Lawford, his mother being Mary Jane Jubb.
I work, on occasion, as a Cover Supervisor in Schools ... a few weeks after starting, a kindly teacher warned me, " Watch out for Archie's and Alfie's, Maisie's tend to be trouble as do Keisha's and Lily-Mae's, oh, and don't get me started on Jensen's & Tyler's ! "
( Apologies to any posters offended )
The early 20th Century trend of giving mother's maiden names as middle names is correct, my maternal Grandfather ( b.1904 ) was George Jubb Lawford, his mother being Mary Jane Jubb.
I work, on occasion, as a Cover Supervisor in Schools ... a few weeks after starting, a kindly teacher warned me, " Watch out for Archie's and Alfie's, Maisie's tend to be trouble as do Keisha's and Lily-Mae's, oh, and don't get me started on Jensen's & Tyler's ! "
( Apologies to any posters offended )
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for someone who works in a school your misuse of apostrophes is shocking.Clarets4me wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:19 pmI work, on occasion, as a Cover Supervisor in Schools ... a few weeks after starting, a kindly teacher warned me, " Watch out for Archie's and Alfie's, Maisie's tend to be trouble as do Keisha's and Lily-Mae's, oh, and don't get me started on Jensen's & Tyler's !