Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

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Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Belgianclaret » Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:39 am

Pretty sure SD will once again try to out-bully us in our own penalty area on Saturday, just like he did at home against us.
No slate against him, as he obviously will use all available tools to win the game. I still remember how we outmuscled Cardiff away with Vokes scoring our winner there.
At least we now have a confident Muric back in goal, but he’ll certainly need to impose himself even more in his box.
Also, we’ll need to defend set pieces far better than against Wolves.
Otherwise I actually think we can hurt them and spring a surprise.
Any suggestions on the strategy?
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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by kentonclaret » Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:47 am

Everton are 1 of the 3 lowest scoring teams in the PL alongside us and have struggled to score more than 1 goal. If we are to get anything from tomorrow imperative that we score the opening goal. If we fall behind early you can probably stick the fork in, we’ll be done.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:12 pm

We need to attack from the off and defend in Evertons half.Not give away needless corners and play Benny wide right to create more chances.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by beddie » Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:17 pm

I think Benson could play a big part tomorrow, if we were holding our own around 75 minutes then Benson could be the one that causes them problems, I hope so, besides ourselves the lad needs a confidence boost. Id love him to be the hero tomorrow.
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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by dougcollins » Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:23 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:12 pm
We need to attack from the off and defend in Evertons half.Not give away needless corners and play Benny wide right to create more chances.
Not giving away needless corners is something we've really not been good at.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Vincent'sCap » Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:37 pm

I would love it if we beat them love it, Dyche is on borrowed time at Everton he will be gone come May if he thought anything about our club he would throw this match 😆

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by beddie » Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:42 pm

Vincent'sCap wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:37 pm
I would love it if we beat them love it, Dyche is on borrowed time at Everton he will be gone come May if he thought anything about our club he would throw this match 😆
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Stayingup » Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:00 pm

Dyche knows how dreadful is our defending of set pieces and will play on that. That's my worry. Otherwise I think we can outplay them.
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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Vincent'sCap » Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:43 pm

beddie wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:42 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Quicknick » Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:54 pm

Yes.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:13 pm

Probably, but it’s the one game I’ve really wanted to win this season after losing the other two against them

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Quicknick » Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:21 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:13 pm
Probably, but it’s the one game I’ve really wanted to win this season after losing the other two against them
You didn't want to win the other games this season?

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:27 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:21 pm
You didn't want to win the other games this season?
No, no I didn’t :roll:
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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Swizzlestick » Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:48 pm

If we avoid stupid fouls and giving away silly corners, we can get a result, but I don't think we'll avoid doing that tbh. No early goals conceded - Everton will be expecting a win and the longer it goes without them scoring the longer the crowd will start getting on them.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by steve1264b » Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:24 pm

Of course we will. Dyche made us the perfect team to play the likes of us. Get on top, put the pressure on, wait for the weak team to crack.

Then school them all day long.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by California Colner » Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:25 pm

Yes

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by ClaretPete001 » Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:55 pm

Everton's bad run of form mainly is mainly a consequence of injuries to Gueye, Onana and Doucoure in addition to Calvert Lewin's lack of form.

Unfortunately, they are all back with a few games under their belt and DCL scored at the week-end.

A team that can go to Stamford Bridge, go down to ten men and get a point can do almost anything on its day but you would have to say all things being equal this will be a tough one.

If we can get an early goal and get them on the back foot who knows. The key to playing Everton is to stop Doucoure playing so this is a classic for a centre mid 3.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Swizzlestick » Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:58 pm

Most Everton fans on the forum want Doucoure dropped.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by bobinho » Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:20 pm

We will.

There will be the usual promising start, where we control things without being too threatening in the box, Everton will follow Dyches instructions and bide their time knowing full well we will fade and make mistakes that they will capitalise on.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by ClaretPete001 » Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:50 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:58 pm
Most Everton fans on the forum want Doucoure dropped.
If it's Grand Old Team they want everyone dropped and everyone sacked. Given half a chance they'd start handing out P45s to themselves. It's not exactly IQ central.

He is the top scorer and prior to his injury Everton were heading towards the top 10.

I think he has struggled since coming back but Doucoure makes the 4-5-1 work. I know some want to go 4-4-2 with Beto and DCL...but ho hum.

Then again I don't watch them so what do I know.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by jojomk1 » Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:54 pm

They will bully us - it's the Dyche way
They have height and strength all down the spine with Harrison and McNeil supplying from the wings
Corners and free kicks will see us concede I fear
And let's forget the experiment of Fofanna and Foster
Need five across midfield

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:17 pm

he'll pick his tallest team, we need to try our best to limit their set pieces but I suspect it will be a fruitless trip for us sadly

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by forzagranata » Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:28 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:50 pm
If it's Grand Old Team they want everyone dropped and everyone sacked. Given half a chance they'd start handing out P45s to themselves. It's not exactly IQ central.
Many moons ago, one well-known Everton fan actually did famously go "scuttling around in taxis" handing out redundancy notice to his own workers....

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by exilecanada » Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:39 pm

You can bet your bottom dollar (or quid) we'll be out-Dyched Saturday. He'll be rubbing his hands in anticipation of exploiting our vulnerability to set pieces.
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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by criminalclaret » Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:15 pm

PL Dyche Burnley - incredibly at scoring and defending corners.

PL Kompany Burnley - awful at scoring and defending corners.

If we don't concede from a corner tomorrow I'm will gladly eat my hat. Dyche will have been running corner routines in 50% of this week's training you can guarantee it
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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by agreenwood » Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:49 pm

They’ll try and bully us. They’ve already done it to us twice this season. We’re a young team with a lot less experience and know-how at this level.

It could be a recipe for disaster or, as others have said, if we stand up to them and frustrate them for a decent spell early on, who knows what could happen.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by MACCA » Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:01 pm

Yes

At least 1 set plsy goal

At least one from forcing us into an error playing in the wrong places

I'm going 3-1

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on it Saturday?

Post by Carlos the Great » Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:12 pm

Has everyone forgot we now have the super Muric back in goals ? We won’t be getting batteredin our penalty area this time round .. and I’m going for a 1 .2 win … I’m confident we will beat Everton

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on it Saturday?

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:19 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:12 pm
Has everyone forgot we now have the super Muric back in goals ? We won’t be getting batteredin our penalty area this time round .. and I’m going for a 1 .2 win … I’m confident we will beat Everton
Have you forgotten the Wolves goal already?

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by evensteadiereddie » Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:24 pm

We'll win.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on it Saturday?

Post by agreenwood » Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:34 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:12 pm
Has everyone forgot we now have the super Muric back in goals ? We won’t be getting batteredin our penalty area this time round .. and I’m going for a 1 .2 win … I’m confident we will beat Everton
They scored from a corner (Onana) and a recycled cross following a corner (Tarkowski) when Muric was in goal in the 3-0 Carabao Cup defeat. Muric’s a better all rounder than Trafford, but I’m not sure he removes the anxiety defending set pieces.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Ilkley claret » Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:48 pm

If we want to stay up these are the games that we have to go and get something.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by bobinho » Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:02 pm

If we want to stay up? It’s clearly too late for any of that…

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by bfcjg » Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:03 pm

Gale force winds on the West coast tomorrow will also help Dyche.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on it Saturday?

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:27 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:19 pm
Have you forgotten the Wolves goal already?
Big Muric fan here, but I'd back Trafford to save that header.
But we could have been behind by then. ;)

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on it Saturday?

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:10 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:27 pm
Big Muric fan here, but I'd back Trafford to save that header.
But we could have been behind by then. ;)
My comment was about our defenders, not keepers.
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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by kezclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:02 am

We get the first goal we will go on to win it, the Evertonians will be on their backs and we need to give McNeill & Tarky hell

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by kentonclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:03 am

Everton have failed to win in 22 at Goodison when conceding. Imperative that we get on the scoresheet this afternoon.

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Post by ArmchairDetective » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:04 am

Stayingup wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:00 pm
Dyche knows how dreadful is our defending of set pieces and will play on that. That's my worry. Otherwise I think we can outplay them.
My thoughts on this game exactly. They're a big team. We could easily play very well but concede from a couple of set pieces.

Still looking forward to probably our last trip to Goodison. Play like we did against Wolves and we have a decent chance.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:15 am

Almost certainly. Too wily by far, I'm afraid to say.

Hope I'm wrong, mind.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by JR1882 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:47 am

Absolutely, they are dire but nothing a few corners hung up to the far post wont sort out I fear.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:07 am

kezclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:02 am
We get the first goal we will go on to win it, the Evertonians will be on their backs and we need to give McNeill & Tarky hell
Yeah abusing McNeil worked well in the League Cup..... McNeil looked as shocked as many Burnley fans at the abuse he got. Right before he put a great cross straight on to Tarkys head, which duly found the back of the net.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Belgianclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:43 am

We won’t win the game by abusing former players who served us well and did nothing wrong. Rather a show of weakness on our part
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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:51 am

forzagranata wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:28 pm
Many moons ago, one well-known Everton fan actually did famously go "scuttling around in taxis" handing out redundancy notice to his own workers....
Yes, that's the problem when you lose your self in your own grandiose ideology. One day a socialist and the next playing Al Dhakil at RB and Roberts at LB against some of the best attacking midfielders in the PL.

Ooooh lost myself there. Started on about Degsy and then went to VK - don't know how that happened.

Where was I ...ah yes. One day a socialist and the next spending thousands on taxis to deliver P45s to your comrades!
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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by BobSykes » Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:07 am

If one fixture was guaranteed to get Everton back to winning ways it's this one.

Likely to be amongst their easiest 3 points all season. At least we'll know we're definitely gone today even if it'll be a couple of weeks before confirmed mathematically.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by claretspice » Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:29 am

The template is the one from Tuesday night with that intensity and energy- but the limiting factor is whether the players have the legs after last Saturday and Tuesday.

I note Delcroix was on the bench on Tuesday. If he's fit then I suspect there's a fair chance he starts because Taylor was clearly struggling one way or another on Tuesday.

I assume Assignon comes back in and Vitinho moves forward to right midfield, depending on whether Vitinho has recovered from two massive efforts. Likewise Berge and Cullen start barring fitness issues.

My assumption is that Odobert plays so it's really two from JBL, Foster and Fofana. Fofana had a shocker on Tuesday but he does add energy and works well without the ball. If Foster is fit enough (again after the games this week) then you'd think he'd play - but there is a world where he plays off the left flank (he's looked OK there and more comfortable than on the right).

As important as anything else is that we have options to get the ball into the front earlier than we could in the reverse game. Apart from defensive set plays badly our achilles heel was that we get sucked into playing in our own half and we feel into traps as a result.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Carlos the Great » Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:26 pm

Let’s hope no stupid mistakes and if ever we needed 3 points it’s today … lose today and we are playing championship next season but if we win … we can continue our best run of the season and who knows

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by jos » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:53 pm

I think our main worry is what the ref conspires to do against us this week.

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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by criminalclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:18 pm

jos wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:53 pm
I think our main worry is what the ref conspires to do against us this week.
I do laugh at these outright "ref conspiracies" supporters that every team have. Nobody is out to get us.

Weve created far, far more of our own problems this season that a officials have contributed to.

I PRAY we can defend set pieces well today because you can be your life that's what Everton has been training for all week.
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Re: Will we be out-Dyched on Saturday?

Post by Stalbansclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:56 pm

Everton completely bullied us in the previous 2 games this season and I fear the same afain (but hope I’m wrong !)

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