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Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:04 pm

Let's have it!!

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by Pickles » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:05 pm

Got a good feeling about this. But it's the hope that kills you.

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:06 pm

Feel for Vitinho but best X1 for me.

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by Goliath » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:06 pm

That's a very attacking team away from home

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by summitclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:06 pm

Bring it on. This is THE season defining game.

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by Conroy92 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:08 pm

Disappointed with the line up.

Foster is a not a right winger and Odebert is not an AMC. I also think Vitinho has been one of the stand out performers in recent weeks and is unlucky to drop out.
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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:08 pm

Foster AND Fofana was a commendable experiment which nobody really thought worked on Tuesday. I've no problem with the rest of the team bearing in mind availability, but Benson (or Vitihno in a genuine winger role) for Foster would have made more sense (Maybe?)
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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by claretspice » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:09 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:08 pm
Disappointed with the line up.

Foster is a not a right winger and Odebert is not an AMC. I also think Vitinho has been one of the stand out performers in recent weeks and is unlucky to drop out.
Think Vitinho might just have been rotated. He's done a huge amount of work in the last 7 days.
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Post by Clive 1960 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:09 pm

at least Vincent as got the best left back playing in defence say no more. UTC.

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:10 pm

Maybe we’ll see Odobert out wide and Foster through the middle this time . We’ll have to wait and see.

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Post by Moorite » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:10 pm

Really surprised with Vitinho on the bench

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Post by IanMcL » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:11 pm

Moorite wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:10 pm
Really surprised with Vitinho on the bench
Who would you leave out?

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by Conroy92 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:11 pm

claretspice wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:09 pm
Think Vitinho might just have been rotated. He's dome a huge amount of work in the last 7 days.
Quite possibly. The rest is just frustrating really though, we're in April and still playing square pegs in round holes. Kompany hasn't found the right side all year.

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by summitclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:11 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:10 pm
Maybe we’ll see Odobert out wide and Foster through the middle this time . We’ll have to wait and see.
Let's hope so.

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:12 pm

No Trafford on bench. Must have a bad illness. Possibly Benchitus ?

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by claretspice » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:15 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:11 pm
Quite possibly. The rest is just frustrating really though, we're in April and still playing square pegs in round holes. Kompany hasn't found the right side all year.
There's only one real square peg in a round hole and that's Foster.

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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:18 pm

Fofana / Foster did not work v Wolves so why go for it again when away :? :?

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Post by FCBurnley » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:20 pm

No way is Foster winger. 100% I would prefer Benson Or Vitinho wide right

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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:24 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:12 pm
No Trafford on bench. Must have a bad illness. Possibly Benchitus ?
Would not be surprised if he has been given some time off for a break - he deserves it

Left out to dry by VK when he clearly wasn't up to this standard and it would have been hurtful to read all the criticism that came his way from the fans

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by boyyanno » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:24 pm

claretspice wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:15 pm
There's only one real square peg in a round hole and that's Foster.
I think you could argue that Odobert is a bit of a square peg in the number 10 spot at the moment. He could well transition into a number 10 but I see him as a better fit out wide currently. That being said you could make the same argument (I.E not being quite suited to the position) for the majority of players we've tried there, be it Amdouni, Brownhill or whoever.

I'd have liked to see Odobert up against Coleman today though, so maybe I'd have moved Odobert out left, Vitinho or JBL out right and maybe I'd have added Brownhill to the middle with one of Foster or Fofana up top.
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Post by ksrclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:26 pm

It’s very gracious of us to nullify our biggest threat by playing Foster from the right, if indeed that’s what we’re doing again.

Kompany has a habit of not learning lessons until it’s too late this season but surely he could see on Tuesday that Foster is absolutely not a wide right.
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Post by burnleymik » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:26 pm

Come on lads! Huuuuge. Last chance saloon today, got to leave it all out there. No excuses.

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by claretspice » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:27 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:18 pm
Fofana / Foster did not work v Wolves so why go for it again when away :? :?
Well, without thinking its the right set up, I can think of two obvious reasons:

- they've had 2 extra days to work on it in training;
- it adds physicality to the team.

The other point is that Fofana had a poor game on Tuesday, and can play better, so perhaps Tuesday wasn't a fair comparison. It's also possible he'll juggle the formation (even if he wants to play Odobert as a 10, I'd prefer to see Foster wide left and JBL on the right).

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:27 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:24 pm
I'd have liked to see Odobert up against Coleman today though, so maybe I'd have moved Odobert out left, Vitinho or JBL out right and maybe I'd have added Brownhill to the middle with one of Foster or Fofana up top.
That makes sense

Pity it's been lacking from the manager's lineups this season

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by claretspice » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:29 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:24 pm
I think you could argue that Odobert is a bit of a square peg in the number 10 spot at the moment. He could well transition into a number 10 but I see him as a better fit out wide currently. That being said you could make the same argument (I.E not being quite suited to the position) for the majority of players we've tried there, be it Amdouni, Brownhill or whoever.

I'd have liked to see Odobert up against Coleman today though, so maybe I'd have moved Odobert out left, Vitinho or JBL out right and maybe I'd have added Brownhill to the middle with one of Foster or Fofana up top.
I see that argument (and one reason I'd play Foster on the left if that is the choice is to have a go against Coleman as you suggest), but personally I think Odobert has done OK at 10 and it does suit the team better defensively.

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by IanMcL » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:34 pm

Odobert would rip holes in Coleman. Not sure manager sees that.

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Post by ecc » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:36 pm

We'll see how they actually line up.
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Post by FCBurnley » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:40 pm

Dyche will love putting one of the las nails in our coffin. Can’t blame him to be honest although I would love it if we can put even more pressure on Dyche and more importantly Everton. Let’s see if we can deal with Tarks on the end of Dwight’s crosses

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by boyyanno » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:42 pm

claretspice wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:29 pm
I see that argument (and one reason I'd play Foster on the left if that is the choice is to have a go against Coleman as you suggest), but personally I think Odobert has done OK at 10 and it does suit the team better defensively.
He's probably the best option there at the moment but I think it depends what you want from your 10- Personally I like to see more of a technician in that slot who picks out good/key passes and uses the ball well. If I'm honest I don't think that suits any of the options we have and that's part of our problem.

One thing I would say is that because of the way Dyche lines up across the pitch I always felt players like Odobert who could take a man on and beat the lines in the centre of the park were very dangerous against us, so it could work in our favour.

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by summitclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:43 pm

Suspect Vitineo is not playing because of the height advantage Everton have.

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Post by BobSykes » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:43 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:40 pm
Dyche will love putting one of the las nails in our coffin. Can’t blame him to be honest although I would love it if we can put even more pressure on Dyche and more importantly Everton. Let’s see if we can deal with Tarks on the end of Dwight’s crosses
Perhaps beating us three times in a season might end the Dyche love in at last , and also the pub can go back to its old name again ending that particular continuing source of embarrassment.

Silver linings, should it happen...

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:44 pm

ecc wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:36 pm
We'll see how they actually line up.
Exactly this

Just because the graphics have it as Foster wide and Odobert central, that doesn’t mean that’s how they will line up

They just place them as a “best guess” based on previous. Doesn’t mean it’s going to be like that

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Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:45 pm

To me, that looks like a variable 4-2-2-2, morphing into 4-4-2.
Don't see why you would give up on Fofana and Foster after 1 game. Just looked they were playing in each other's boots against Wolves. Today they will be better as a pair. Might even play better away from home with more space around them. I'm sure Odobert will be wide left at times during the game especially if he's given service that plays him wide. The rest of the team pretty much picks itself. Vitinho will get minutes during the game. Game on. I think we'll give them a good game. Let's see how it goes. COYC

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Post by claretspice » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:46 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:42 pm
One thing I would say is that because of the way Dyche lines up across the pitch I always felt players like Odobert who could take a man on and beat the lines in the centre of the park were very dangerous against us, so it could work in our favour.
Good point this. Agreed. Fingers crossed.

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by ClaretLoup » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:46 pm

Glad he’s gone for an attacking line up as there is no point blocking out for a draw today. The pre match stats show that Everton have a long run of failing to win after conceding the first goal.

Also if we don’t beat Everton and Forest there really is very little chance of reeling either of them in.

I would have liked to have seen Vitinho and Benson involved but maybe defending set pieces is a consideration in team selection.

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Post by burnleymik » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:46 pm

BobSykes wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:43 pm
Perhaps beating us three times in a season might end the Dyche love in at last , and also the pub can go back to its old name again ending that particular continuing source of embarrassment.

Silver linings, should it happen...
I'm not embarrassed by it. Most reasonable people understand what Dyche did for our club.
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Post by dougcollins » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:52 pm

Fofana would be on the bench for me.

Vitinho out wide and Foster down the middle.

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Post by morninbob » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:58 pm

We've signed a million wingers and foster is playing out wide 🫣

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Post by jos » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:00 pm

Come on Burnley

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:09 pm

Muric doing exactly what Trafford should be doing from corners, pushing the attackers away from him

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Post by IanMcL » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:12 pm

O'Shea intercepts. Half an hour later, Calverton Lewin trips over his leg and gets fk!!!!

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Post by CoolClaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:13 pm

God Muric is a joy to watch with the ball. What VK (and some on here) was thinking I'll never know.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:17 pm

Does anyone have a link to the game?

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Post by IanMcL » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:18 pm

Good save Muric
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Post by KRBFC » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:18 pm

morninbob wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:58 pm
We've signed a million wingers and foster is playing out wide 🫣
Half of them are injured, the reason Foster is there and not Odobert/Benson is for what we’ve seen twice already, Fosters work rate in tracking back.

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Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:20 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:17 pm
Does anyone have a link to the game?
Alien coms, but no hint of a lag.
Ad shuts after 30 secs

https://livetv774.me/eventinfo/19957614 ... 918|1|1|ru
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Post by Wo Didi » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:21 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:17 pm
Does anyone have a link to the game?
https://mrgamingstreams.com/soccer-10

No ads to close and English commentary
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:21 pm

Assignon needs Vitinho in front of him

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:22 pm

Good stuff.
Come on Burnley!

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Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Post by IanMcL » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:29 pm

Great work Assignon

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