I’m so sick of Kompany

[123EasyasBFC]

The fact that the squad VK inherited had the most premier league games in the entire division. Key players with vast experience that lead the younger players such as Barnes, Cork, Brownhill etc….

This next season we will have considerably less premier league experience and by the sounds of it considerably less finances to throw around.

Let’s see how good VK actually is.

What ethos and imprint are you referring to though just the fact we had players which lots of premier league games?

Majority of our key players last season didn’t even have any English football games behind them.

Respectfully you are talking complete rubbish saying last season was due to dyche ethos.

We signed 17 new players, played a completely different style of football that the existing players hadn’t played before.

Can call kompany to the cows come home about his failings this season but he deserves credit for last seasons promotion

[Boss Hogg]

you don't get over 100 points in the Championship if you are a bad manager or are you suggesting a 46 game season was down to luck ?

Plenty of players look great in the Championship too but look ruddy awful in the Premier League. IF we get back up VK isn’t the man for the job imo. This seasons F Up is down to him.

[fidelcastro]

We've lost 1 in 5 by a freak goal. You might not like it but we are now a lot more competitive at this level and have improved drastically since the start of the season.

It wasn't a freak goal. It was a cock-up.

[Swizzlestick]

I do genuinely believe that last season was purely down to the ethos Dyche has imbedded in the key players in the squad.

This next season will be a true indicator. It may sound harsh but I honestly couldn’t care less if we win every single game. He’s not a manager I want anywhere near this club

Astonishing post, even for you. And some others wonder why you get grief on here.

[Newcastleclaret93]

What ethos and imprint are you referring to though just the fact we had players which lots of premier league games?

Majority of our key players last season didn’t even have any English football games behind them.

Respectfully you are talking complete rubbish saying last season was due to dyche ethos.

We signed 17 new players, played a completely different style of football that the existing players hadn’t played before.

Can call kompany to the cows come home about his failings this season but he deserves credit for last seasons promotion

Ok let’s see how he gets on next season. Now Dyches imprint has been completely dismantled.

I suspect we will still be right up there due to the finances we will have in comparison to the rest of the league but I suspect next season will prove to be less successful

[123EasyasBFC]

It wasn't a freak goal. It was a cock-up.

It’s a cock-up but still a freak goal

[fidelcastro]

It’s a cock-up but still a freak goal

I define a freak goal as one you can't do anything about.

This was entirely self inflicted.

[jedi_master]

It may sound harsh but I honestly couldn’t care less if we win every single game. He’s not a manager I want anywhere near this club

I should know better than to nibble, but you really let yourself down with shite like this.

[123EasyasBFC]

Ok let’s see how he gets on next season. Now Dyches imprint has been completely dismantled.

I suspect we will still be right up there due to the finances we will have in comparison to the rest of the league but I suspect next season will prove to be less successful

Even if next season wasn’t to go well that doesn’t mean last season was because of dyche ethos imprint.

You can’t expand your ethos part, you can’t just say because we had players with premier league experience because premier league experience really has no hating on the championship.

Anyone that was at Huddersfield away first game of season last season there was absolutely no feeling whatsoever of a dyche imprint.

Last 2 seasons we have had in the champ we have won the league both times, 2 completely different achievements both amazing and both sets of staff and players deserve their own credit

[Newcastleclaret93]

Astonishing post, even for you. And some others wonder why you get grief on here.

Not sure why it’s so astonishing?

Do we really think after one of the most successful managers in our history he won’t have left an affect on the squad.

I might be wrong but it’s genuinely my opinion that a large portion of last seasons success is because of his imprint. The experience VK inherited and the physicality. I don’t think it can be underestimated.

Next season is a completely different ball game, he’s going to have next to no premier league experience and all his physical talent IE Cork, Brownhill, Taylor will be gone

[Vegas Claret]

I define a freak goal as one you can't do anything about.

This was entirely self inflicted.

Breaking News:

Player makes mistake


Did you see the one 100 million quid Caicedo made for Chelsea against United ? Surely at 100 million he shouldn't be doing that or is it down to the fact he's young and relatively inexperienced ? It happens.

[123EasyasBFC]

Not sure why it’s so astonishing?

Do we really think after one of the most successful managers in our history he won’t have left an affect on the squad.

I might be wrong but it’s genuinely my opinion that a large portion of last seasons success is because of his imprint. The experience VK inherited and the physicality. I don’t think it can be underestimated.

Next season is a completely different ball game, he’s going to have next to no premier league experience and all his physical talent IE Cork, Brownhill, Taylor will be gone

The majority of the squad will have at least 12 mo the premier league experience next season. Premier league experience has no bearing on playing in the championship

[Newcastleclaret93]

Even if next season wasn’t to go well that doesn’t mean last season was because of dyche ethos imprint.

You can’t expand your ethos part, you can’t just say because we had players with premier league experience because premier league experience really has no hating on the championship.

Anyone that was at Huddersfield away first game of season last season there was absolutely no feeling whatsoever of a dyche imprint.

Last 2 seasons we have had in the champ we have won the league both times, 2 completely different achievements both amazing and both sets of staff and players deserve their own credit

The experience and talent he inherited is the Dyche imprint. This next season VK wont have the same assets because he has dismantled that (a lot of that is not his fault).

You may not think it but there is a direct correlation between premier league experience and promotion from the championship. It is growing rarer and rarer that teams with no premier league experience get promoted.

Like I said I might not be right but this next season will be the real
Test for VK and it will tell us what his true level is.

[fidelcastro]

Breaking News:

Player makes mistake


Did you see the one 100 million quid Caicedo made for Chelsea against United ? Surely at 100 million he shouldn't be doing that or is it down to the fact he's young and relatively inexperienced ? It happens.

I know it does. I never said it didn't, but it cost us the game, or at least changed the way we had to try and get back into it.

I was responding to someone who called it a freak goal, which it wasn't.

Anyone who knows me (lucky them! ) will tell you last season I was constantly saying we'd need an upgrade on Muric for the PL. What we didn't need or expect was for him to be replaced by a keeper who hadn't played higher than league one prior to this season.

[ksrclaret]

Newcastleclaret is a plonker more often than not, everyone knows that, but he has a point here.

Kompany inherited some Dyche warriors and their impact on the 22/23 season shouldn't be underestimated. Kompany added the icing and sprinkles, but underlying the team was a core strength. In the 24/25 season, Kompany will have to harness his own warriors and I for one doubt whether he is the sort of manager who can do that.

[123EasyasBFC]

The experience and talent he inherited is the Dyche imprint. This next season VK wont have the same assets because he has dismantled that (a lot of that is not his fault).

You may not think it but there is a direct correlation between premier league experience and promotion from the championship. It is growing rarer and rarer that teams with no premier league experience get promoted.

Like I said I might not be right but this next season will be the real
Test for VK and it will tell us what his true level is.

Even if next season doesn’t work that has nothing to do with dyche imprint

Peacock-Farrell - never played under dyche
Roberts - dyche preferred lowton
Lowton - left and went to Huddersfield
Taylor.- correct will of been good around the squad last season
Cork - didn’t feature for dyche for a good part of 18 months
Brownhill - played in a completely different position last season to dyche
JBG - had he best season for a long time last season injury record wise
Barnes - from MTB clear the impact he had at the club
Jay Rod - another good pro to have

That’s 8 players at the club day in day out from the dyche error, we signed 17 players, last season was a fresh start you have to give kompany the credit for that

[forzagranata]

Any normal football club would be looking to change manager of this season.

But Burnley is no longer a normal football club.

[Goliath]

When he is fit he's decided to start playing him out on the right. Wtf.

He might not be injured but he he isn't fit

[Swizzlestick]

Not sure why it’s so astonishing?

Do we really think after one of the most successful managers in our history he won’t have left an affect on the squad.

I might be wrong but it’s genuinely my opinion that a large portion of last seasons success is because of his imprint. The experience VK inherited and the physicality. I don’t think it can be underestimated.

Next season is a completely different ball game, he’s going to have next to no premier league experience and all his physical talent IE Cork, Brownhill, Taylor will be gone

Obviously Dyche left an effect, Kompany talked about it a lot. But it is genuinely outrageous to suggest that last year’s achievements, where we played a polar opposite style of football with a core of players signed by Kompany as, direct quote “purely down to the ethos Dyche has embedded”. That’s just a complete revisionism of history. I can only ascertain you’re using such strong wording for impact. I guess it works.

[JR1882]

Newcastleclaret is a plonker more often than not, everyone knows that, but he has a point here.

Kompany inherited some Dyche warriors and their impact on the 22/23 season shouldn't be underestimated. Kompany added the icing and sprinkles, but underlying the team was a core strength. In the 24/25 season, Kompany will have to harness his own warriors and I for one doubt whether he is the sort of manager who can do that.

It’s not often a mass turnover of players both in and out ends up being successful so quickly, and now we are going to need to do it again.

[Goliath]

It wasn't a freak goal. It was a cock-up.

I think its the first time I've seen us concede that type of goal in 20 years. I'd call that a freak. I've seen us score a few similar mind

[123EasyasBFC]

Any normal football club would be looking to change manager of this season.

But Burnley is no longer a normal football club.

Maybe not now they wouldn’t but a normal club would of changed the manager in November

[fidelcastro]

He might not be injured but he he isn't fit

Certainly not fit to play on the wing.

[ElectroClaret]

Kompany inherited some Dyche warriors and their impact on the 22/23 season shouldn't be underestimated. Kompany added the icing and sprinkles, but underlying the team was a core strength. In the 24/25 season, Kompany will have to harness his own warriors and I for one doubt whether he is the sort of manager who can do that.

Spot on.

[Vegas Claret]

I know it does. I never said it didn't, but it cost us the game, or at least changed the way we had to try and get back into it.

I was responding to someone who called it a freak goal, which it wasn't.

Anyone who knows me (lucky them! ) will tell you last season I was constantly saying we'd need an upgrade on Muric for the PL. What we didn't need or expect was for him to be replaced by a keeper who hadn't played higher than league one prior to this season.

I agree about Trafford, I disagree about Muric - we've seen both Allison and Ederson do exactly what Muric did today (in terms of giving the ball away and conceding a goal).

[Exsus]

Take it you don't go to watch games then well not at Turf Moor anyway

[fidelcastro]

I think its the first time I've seen us concede that type of goal in 20 years. I'd call that a freak. I've seen us score a few similar mind

As the eternal optimist Mr. Vegas has enlightened us all... Players make mistakes, keepers included, so it's not a freak, just a cock-up. One that's cost us big time though, sadly.

[Vegas Claret]

Any normal football club would be looking to change manager of this season.

worked well for Norwich, Southampton, Watford etc etc.

[alboclaret]

He might not be injured but he he isn't fit

Even worse then... playing unfit & out of position players.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Obviously Dyche left an effect, Kompany talked about it a lot. But it is genuinely outrageous to suggest that last year’s achievements, where we played a polar opposite style of football with a core of players signed by Kompany as, direct quote “purely down to the ethos Dyche has embedded”. That’s just a complete revisionism of history. I can only ascertain you’re using such strong wording for impact. I guess it works.

Nope not at all, I genuinely believe that core group of players that were left following Dyches departure were a massive reason we got promoted. I am starting to believe it was a hell of a lot bigger than any of us originally thought.

I look at this squad now and wonder where’s the experienced heads /warriors that will be at VKs disposal. The gritty players that allowed the likes of benson to shine. I just don’t see them and I can’t see VK finding them.

This next season in my opinion will be the best indicator of VKs level. Was last season just a fortunate blend of Dyches warriors and VKs gems or is VK a good manager. The longer this season has gone on the more I truly believe last season was just a fortunate blend, I would happily be wrong but that’s my opinion.

[123EasyasBFC]

Newcastleclaret is a plonker more often than not, everyone knows that, but he has a point here.

Kompany inherited some Dyche warriors and their impact on the 22/23 season shouldn't be underestimated. Kompany added the icing and sprinkles, but underlying the team was a core strength. In the 24/25 season, Kompany will have to harness his own warriors and I for one doubt whether he is the sort of manager who can do that.

When a manager has been there 8 years there’s going to be an element of his finger prints still being around the club, but having barnes in the squad wasn’t implementing dyches ethos and imprint on Beyer, Cullen, tella and benson to name a few, that was all on kompany and the staff with the style

[KRBFC]

I’m gonna only comment after we lose and demand the manager gets sacked, if we play well or get a positive result I won’t comment.

Easy this being a fan lark eh, only support when we don’t lose otherwise it’s burn everything to the ground and sack everyone!

[Swizzlestick]

And the re the goal, I’ve wanted Muric in for a while, but it’s a huge mistake. He’s not the only one, but surely a bit of ‘game management’ has to come in and see it out until half time - sadly lacking again. The number of goals conceded just before half time this year has been criminal.

[fidelcastro]

I agree about Trafford, I disagree about Muric - we've seen both Allison and Ederson do exactly what Muric did today (in terms of giving the ball away and conceding a goal).

He generally isn't as good as those two though.

Although you'd think he was, given some of the comments on here about him in recent weeks.

[123EasyasBFC]

How far back to do you go with ethos and implantation, our first promotion season under dyche majority of the key players where signed by Eddie Howe so does Eddie Howe deserve the credit for that promotion over dyche

[ksrclaret]

When a manager has been there 8 years there’s going to be an element of his finger prints still being around the club, but having barnes in the squad wasn’t implementing dyches ethos and imprint on Beyer, Cullen, tella and benson to name a few, that was all on kompany and the staff with the style

I don't doubt for one moment that all the style and finesse we saw last season was down to Kompany. It was a joy to watch at times.

What I do doubt, very much so, is Kompany's ability to build his own core group of players who will police the dressing room and set a strong culture. It's strange because Kompany himself was very much in this mould as a player himself, but I don't think he knows how to inspire it in others.

Only time will tell whether he learns how to do this. But I think anyone expecting us to repeat 22/23 next season will be disappointed.

[Newcastleclaret93]

How far back to do you go with ethos and implantation, our first promotion season under dyche majority of the key players where signed by Eddie Howe so does Eddie Howe deserve the credit for that promotion over dyche

Did Eddie Howe leave Dyche a squad with the most premier league experience in the league?

[Vegas Claret]

He generally isn't as good as those two though.

Although you'd think he was, given some of the comments on here about him in recent weeks.

Muric cost about 3 million quid, Allison cost about 70, Ederson about 35 - would you expect him to be as good as them ? Bonkers

[Vegas Claret]

Did Eddie Howe leave Dyche a squad with the most premier league experience in the league?

we got rid of 16 players and brought in 15 (or something like that) - no ounce of credit for putting it all together or will we find that on Dyche's CV too ?

[fidelcastro]

Muric cost about 3 million quid, Allison cost about 70, Ederson about 35 - would you expect him to be as good as them ? Bonkers

No. I wouldn't.

I wanted an upgrade on him, that's all.

Presumably Kompany thought that Trafford would take to the PL like a duck to water. Sadly that hasn't happened.

[Vegas Claret]

I don't doubt for one moment that all the style and finesse we saw last season was down to Kompany. It was a joy to watch at times.

What I do doubt, very much so, is Kompany's ability to build his own core group of players who will police the dressing room and set a strong culture. It's strange because Kompany himself was very much in this mould as a player himself, but I don't think he knows how to inspire it in others.

Only time will tell whether he learns how to do this. But I think anyone expecting us to repeat 22/23 next season will be disappointed.

interesting

Cullen - captain at Anderlecht
O'Shea - captain at WBA
Berge - captained Norway

There may be more

[123EasyasBFC]

I don't doubt for one moment that all the style and finesse we saw last season was down to Kompany. It was a joy to watch at times.

What I do doubt, very much so, is Kompany's ability to build his own core group of players who will police the dressing room and set a strong culture. It's strange because Kompany himself was very much in this mould as a player himself, but I don't think he knows how to inspire it in others.

Only time will tell whether he learns how to do this. But I think anyone expecting us to repeat 22/23 next season will be disappointed.

I understand the policing the dressing room type but from MTB the fact we even got a documentary series showed how the ethos has changed, when you have 17 new players to go with 8 players still at the club does that ethos not come from kompany, also easy to police a dressing room when you aren’t losing games, you can put last seasons promotion down largely to the experiences players buying into kompany and helping the new players but you can’t put it down to dyche imprint and ethos

[Newcastleclaret93]

we got rid of 16 players and brought in 15 (or something like that) - no ounce of credit for putting it all together or will we find that on Dyche's CV too ?

I’m not saying VK didn’t contribute to last season haha I’m not insane.

But I do genuinely believe we are massively underestimating how important that core group of players Dyche left was. The experience, work ethic and physicality is just something we won’t have this summer.

If I’m being really honest, I think we would have faired better this season if we had kept Barnes and kept Cork involved in starting eleven. We have shown this season this squad just has no experience or back bone.

[ksrclaret]

interesting

Cullen - captain at Anderlecht
O'Shea - captain at WBA
Berge - captained Norway

There may be more

I think it's probably a little more complex than just plucking captains from others teams.

The sloppiness, poor mentality, and poor discipline we've seen all season tells it's own story.

[123EasyasBFC]

Did Eddie Howe leave Dyche a squad with the most premier league experience in the league?

At that time we were needed players with championship experience which is what Howe left dyche with
Having premier league experience isn’t the point, he left dyche with key players likes of shackell, trippier, mee, Wallace, stanislas, ings and vokes, so are you giving Howe credit for that season is it down to how dyche moulded that team to play the way he wanted and build the culture he built?

[Vegas Claret]

Did Eddie Howe leave Dyche a squad with the most premier league experience in the league?

If it's just down to PL experienced players then why aren't Leicester an Leeds walking the League and how are Ipswich second ?

[123EasyasBFC]

I’m not saying VK didn’t contribute to last season haha I’m not insane.

But I do genuinely believe we are massively underestimating how important that core group of players Dyche left was. The experience, work ethic and physicality is just something we won’t have this summer.

If I’m being really honest, I think we would have faired better this season if we had kept Barnes and kept Cork involved in starting eleven. We have shown this season this squad just has no experience or back bone.

There’s no guarantee with players with premier league experience, look at Leicester last season, 100s of player league appearances between them and their had a shocker of a season

[Newcastleclaret93]

If it's just down to PL experienced players then why aren't Leicester an Leeds walking the League and how are Ipswich second ?

The three squads with the most premier league experience are in the top 4 in the championship.

Ipswich are an anomaly as you are well aware.

It’s not as simple as that but I don’t think it’s stupid to suggest that next season will be completely different because we will not have a core of experienced pros with years of premier league experience behind them.

I honestly think we are looking at a massive turnover of players this summer, a turnover like we have never seen before.

[Stayingup]

A guy on X has put a list of our most expensive signings and t
I think there’s only Collins, cornet, wood and gray that we have made a profit on. Brady, hendrick, Vydra all left on frees, Gibson we made a lose on then there’s weghorst we are going to make a lose on.

Trafford, Ramsey, Amdouni, Berge and Tresor, time will tell if we make profit on those

I think there are more we've made profits on. Pope for one. But we have made good buys who have been value for money like Tarkowski and Mee and in fact we could have cashed in on Tarkowski. Not many of the current squad meet those criterion. Not yet anyway.

[123EasyasBFC]

The three squads with the most premier league experience are in the top 4 in the championship.

Ipswich are an anomaly as you are well aware.

It’s not as simple as that but I don’t think it’s stupid to suggest that next season will be completely different because we will not have a core of experienced pros with years of premier league experience behind them.

I honestly think we are looking at a massive turnover of players this summer, a turnover like we have never seen before.

The Southampton team doesn’t have more premier league experience than Norwich in it