I’m so sick of Kompany

[Goliath]

I hope we keep him. One of the unique things about this football club is how few managers we go through. That must be an attractive proposition for future managers as well.

Let's just stay patient, there's been a drastic improvement since the start of the season and we now look quite close to being a competitive Premier league outfit.

[Vegas Claret]

What is 'the bigger picture'?

I thought it was staying in The Premier League. What is bigger then that (apart from staying in existence)?

How many times have we been relegated from the Premier League ?

[fidelcastro]

Barnes was out of his depth last time round in Prrem.
I have loved watching Cork but he's past it.
Amdouni hasn't been what I hoped he'd be, granted.
Benson, Cullen, Zaroury have all been played and disappointed in early season.
Muric has looked better than Trafford but we saw today where the issues are.

I think the disassembly was enforced.

I agree with much of that, but if you're going to upgrade, then by definition, the new players need to be better than the players they have replaced. For the most part, they haven't been.

[Vegas Claret]

I agree with much of that, but if you're going to upgrade, then by definition, the new players need to be better than the players they have replaced. For the most part, they haven't been.

Hard to do though, Brighton spent fortunes buying inadequate players before finding the gems. Leeds spent something like 30 million on Rutter and still got relegated. We still completely screwed the pooch on it, we needed a tinkering to the squad not a massacre

[fidelcastro]

Hard to do though, Brighton spent fortunes buying inadequate players before finding the gems. Leeds spent something like 30 million on Rutter and still got relegated. We still completely screwed the pooch on it, we need a tinkering to the squad not a massacre

We've spent a relative fortune, Viva.

I don't know why you keep defending the indefensible.

[KRBFC]

I agree with much of that, but if you're going to upgrade, then by definition, the new players need to be better than the players they have replaced. For the most part, they haven't been.

Who hasn’t been better than who?

You completely forget, we got promoted last season, we aren’t playing the likes of Rotherham and Huddersfield anymore.

Koleosho > Benson
Odobert > Anass
Berge > Cork
Assignon > Roberts
Esteve > THB
Fofana/Amdouni > Barnes

[Burnley1989]

You’re talking about Benson having the season of his life in the Championship. You wanna moan about Amdouni being lazy? Would Benson get the same criticism?

That’s the problem here, this forum is full of hypocritical agenda driven nonsense.

Rodriguez can do no wrong despite doing nothing right all season.

Foster has been awful for most of the season, so sloppy with the ball, yet because he runs around a lot he’s given a free pass.

Let’s hammer Trafford all season yet when Muric kicks one into his own net let’s blame everyone but Muric.

Leaking goal after goal down Taylor’s side in back to back PL campaigns, consistently one of our worst rated players (by Opta stats) yet he’s given a free pass. It’s not his fault he can’t cross a football.

Your bang on

[fidelcastro]

I hope we keep him. One of the unique things about this football club is how few managers we go through. That must be an attractive proposition for future managers as well.

Let's just stay patient, there's been a drastic improvement since the start of the season and we now look quite close to being a competitive Premier league outfit.

No we don't.

[JR1882]

he is right man for this job, no doubts in my mind. he won promotion battle and has had his work cut out at a higher level with a new team. they are trying to implement his plans for the games, but its a league brimming with talent and monied clubs way way beyond tiny Burnley.
We have not got the players to compete consistently, and they are less talented by and large. That's not the fault of VK, he is having to do the best with what he has, plain and simple. I hope he stays for next few years. great coach. I have faith in him.

My issue with this is he assembled the “new team” and (in all probability) chose the players, you don’t then get to use it as an excuse when it all goes tits up - this is his fault, on every level.

[Vegas Claret]

We've spent a relative fortune, Viva.

I don't know why you keep defending the indefensible.

I'm pointing out the obvious that people seem to struggle with mate, money guarantees nothing. Why aren't Chelsea top of the league ?

[KRBFC]

My issue with this is he assembled the “new team” and (in all probability) chose the players, you don’t then get to use it as an excuse when it all goes tits up - this is his fault, on every level.

You don’t know that though, was pretty clear he wanted Verbruggen as first choice, he ended up with Trafford. How did he get to Trafford? was he second choice or fourth?

He wanted Boey and Maatsen for full back, the board didn’t buy either.

VK wanted Tella, the club bid for him, did Tella want to return? Did the club refuse to pay the fee or did VK opt to go elsewhere?

[123EasyasBFC]

I would 100% keep kompany but early in the summer focus needs to be on getting as much money as possible for:

Trafford (don’t ever see after this season how his Burnley career can take off)
Roberts
McNally
Ekdal
Bastien
Twine
Churlinov
Tresor (if we have signed him)
Obafemi
Weghorst
Amdouni (really think he is a talent but it’s just not worked out)

[fidelcastro]

I'm pointing out the obvious that people seem to struggle with mate, money guarantees nothing. Why aren't Chelsea top of the league ?

Clubs like ours can't afford to waste 100 million on players.

We'll do very well to make a profit on any of them when they want away.

[123EasyasBFC]

Clubs like ours can't afford to waste 100 million on players.

We'll do very well to make a profit on any of them when they want away.

A guy on X has put a list of our most expensive signings and t
I think there’s only Collins, cornet, wood and gray that we have made a profit on. Brady, hendrick, Vydra all left on frees, Gibson we made a lose on then there’s weghorst we are going to make a lose on.

Trafford, Ramsey, Amdouni, Berge and Tresor, time will tell if we make profit on those

[Vegas Claret]

Clubs like ours can't afford to waste 100 million on players.

We'll do very well to make a profit on any of them when they want away.

thing is, the 'clubs like ours' is a bit of an unknown. We've no clue at all how much money the 'consortium' for want of a better term have (granted that's a VERY optimistic stance before you start because I know you will )

The whole season has been down to the inexperience of the side.

[fidelcastro]

thing is, the 'clubs like ours' is a bit of an unknown. We've no clue at all how much money the 'consortium' for want of a better term have (granted that's a VERY optimistic stance before you start because I know you will )

The whole season has been down to the inexperience of the side.

I think the inevitable firesale will tell you the owners aren't exactly Abramovic!

[123EasyasBFC]

thing is, the 'clubs like ours' is a bit of an unknown. We've no clue at all how much money the 'consortium' for want of a better term have (granted that's a VERY optimistic stance before you start because I know you will )

The whole season has been down to the inexperience of the side.

Club like ours part is pretty much every club outside the top 6. I find it crazy that a club with our finances can afford to have 15m players not even in the match day squad like we have this season. 15m players who don’t get in a best 11

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

I’m ambivalent about him going

I thought he had turned a corner admitting he got the keeper wrong four games ago so I gave him credit for that although too late.

Now he has started tinkering with players out of position again for no gain. Foster being the most obvious one.

At wolves he can’t see Fofana was having a mare and kept him on. Foster was not working on right wing so he continues to make mistakes in his line ups and tactics.

It makes me wonder if he can see where he is going wrong in each game.

If he could he would surely change it quicker.

Stay or go I’m not that fussed.

I’ve kept it fairly consistent all season think we may need a change if he gets us up again.

[Chester Perry]

thing is, the 'clubs like ours' is a bit of an unknown. We've no clue at all how much money the 'consortium' for want of a better term have (granted that's a VERY optimistic stance before you start because I know you will )

The whole season has been down to the inexperience of the side.

It is true that we do not know how much money they have - what we do know is that apart from a strange £1m loan (which pales into insignificance against the £124.1m they have 'borrowed' from the club) is that up to account sign off date they have not put money into the club

[Hipper]

I get that VK is learning and he did seem to progress in The Championship. It was reasonable to expect that he had some understanding of what is required to stay in The Premier League and if he needed to learn more he would. It seems though he got carried away with some mission to bring in young potential (sometimes at quite high prices - e.g. Trafford) for later profit without enough consideration for actually staying in The Premier League, the source of real big money.

On recruitment, he should have known that Roberts and Brownhill were not really good enough and Cork, JBG and JayRod were on their last legs. I suppose we should have been warned of his poor purchases by the business with Twine, McNally, Bastien, Egan-Riley, Churlinov, and later Obafemi. This season it is clear that from last year, Bayer, Ekdal, Al Dakhil, Zaroury, and from this year, Trafford, Delcroix, Ramsey, Massengo, Redmond, Amdouni, and Tresor are simply not good enough for Premier League football. Koleosho and Odobert look possibles but need to prove it. Foster is likely but has issues that seem to prevent his full development. Only Berge has been a qualified success. O'Shea is not a disaster but my guess is he was meant as Long's replacement.

By all the measures that seem obvious to a simple fan, VK has failed in all departments. Failed in recruitment, either to have players that could keep us up or ones that could be sold for considerable profit. And failed to keep us up. He's also failed in player discipline - 7 reds (next highest Liverpool 5), but only 59 yellows (highest Chelsea 87).

What a disaster and there seemed no need for it. There's certainly no excuse.

[123EasyasBFC]

We are only forest losing tomorrow then forest Everton and Luton losing next weekend whilst we pump Brighton at home from being back in this hahaha

[Vegas Claret]

It is true that we do not know how much money they have - what we do know is that apart from a strange £1m loan (which pales into insignificance against the £124.1m they have 'borrowed' from the club) is that up to account sign off date they have not put money into the club

yep, hence my optimistic acknowledgement !!

[Vegas Claret]

Club like ours part is pretty much every club outside the top 6. I find it crazy that a club with our finances can afford to have 15m players not even in the match day squad like we have this season. 15m players who don’t get in a best 11

yep, no argument

[Vegas Claret]

I think the inevitable firesale will tell you the owners aren't exactly Abramovic!

[claptrappers_union]

Kompany is a baaaaaad manager

[JR1882]

I would 100% keep kompany but early in the summer focus needs to be on getting as much money as possible for:

Trafford (don’t ever see after this season how his Burnley career can take off)
Roberts
McNally
Ekdal
Bastien
Twine
Churlinov
Tresor (if we have signed him)
Obafemi
Weghorst
Amdouni (really think he is a talent but it’s just not worked out)

Basically a full team there that we need to shift before we even get to the players who have been in matchday squads this season. What an absolute clusterf*ck this squad is now.

[Goliath]

No we don't.

We've lost 1 in 5 by a freak goal. You might not like it but we are now a lot more competitive at this level and have improved drastically since the start of the season.

[123EasyasBFC]

Basically a full team there that we need to shift before we even get to the players who have been in matchday squads this season. What an absolute clusterf*ck this squad is now.

That’s what I mean about the early summer focus if possible is getting dead weight out the door. We are going to be aiming for top 2 championship so McNally, Bastien, twine, churlinov and obafemi will never be that level

[Newcastleclaret93]

We've lost 1 in 5 by a freak goal. You might not like it but we are now a lot more competitive at this level and have improved drastically since the start of the season.

Our form over the last ten games in our best form this season has us in the bottom two on 7 points.

We really haven’t improved just teams around us have been nearly as bad as we have

[Vegas Claret]

Kompany is a baaaaaad manager

you don't get over 100 points in the Championship if you are a bad manager or are you suggesting a 46 game season was down to luck ?

[Goliath]

I must have dreamed us getting a draw at Stamford Bridge with 10 men, beating Brentford and drawing away at a good West ham side all in the last month. Im not saying we are great but we are now competitive in the majority of matches. I could argue that if Kompany had his star striker fit all season then we may well have a lot more points.

[agreenwood]

Our form over the last ten games in our best form this season has us in the bottom two on 7 points.

We really haven’t improved just teams around us have been nearly as bad as we have

Limited you to fleeting visits though to be fair. Welcome back.

[123EasyasBFC]

Our form over the last ten games in our best form this season has us in the bottom two on 7 points.

We really haven’t improved just teams around us have been nearly as bad as we have

Anyone can adjust the amount of games in form stats, last 10 games has us 18th not 19th but last 5 games has us 9th, it all depends what narrative you are trying to spin.

The only thing that matters is where we are after 32 games and that’s 19th not good enough

[Newcastleclaret93]

you don't get over 100 points in the Championship if you are a bad manager or are you suggesting a 46 game season was down to luck ?

I do genuinely believe that last season was purely down to the ethos Dyche has imbedded in the key players in the squad.

This next season will be a true indicator. It may sound harsh but I honestly couldn’t care less if we win every single game. He’s not a manager I want anywhere near this club

[Newcastleclaret93]

Limited you to fleeting visits though to be fair. Welcome back.

Haha I missed two games because I was away.

Wish I had stayed away longer after watching VKs rubbish

[Vegas Claret]

I wonder why the promoted teams are the bottom 3, can't put my finger on the reason that would be.....

[Vegas Claret]

I do genuinely believe that last season was purely down to the ethos Dyche has imbedded in the key players in the squad.

This next season will be a true indicator. It may sound harsh but I honestly couldn’t care less if we win every single game. He’s not a manager I want anywhere near this club

what an absolute crock of ****

[Newcastleclaret93]

what an absolute crock of ****

Time will tell. But all I know for an absolute fact is VK got us promoted last time being the largest spenders in the division after inheriting a squad full of premier league experience.

This next season will be the true indicator now Dyche imprint has fully been dismantled.

[agreenwood]

I do genuinely believe that last season was purely down to the ethos Dyche has imbedded in the key players in the squad.

This next season will be a true indicator. It may sound harsh but I honestly couldn’t care less if we win every single game. He’s not a manager I want anywhere near this club

“Why does everyone pick on Newcastleclaret?” they ask.

[ksrclaret]

I wonder why the promoted teams are the bottom 3, can't put my finger on the reason that would be.....

It’s because both us and Sheff Utd are basket cases and Luton are a teeny club with a Championship budget, but still managing to put us two to shame.

All 3 promoted clubs stayed up last year, for balance.

[123EasyasBFC]

I do genuinely believe that last season was purely down to the ethos Dyche has imbedded in the key players in the squad.

This next season will be a true indicator. It may sound harsh but I honestly couldn’t care less if we win every single game. He’s not a manager I want anywhere near this club

You have to be kidding, your putting last seasons promotion on dyches ethos? Key players last season muric, Beyer, Maatsen, Cullen, brownhill, benson and Barnes. I understand you aren’t a fan of kompany but you cannot think last season was down to the existing players ethos, cork and roberts barely featured under dyche in his last season

[bumba]

You’re talking about Benson having the season of his life in the Championship. You wanna moan about Amdouni being lazy? Would Benson get the same criticism?

That’s the problem here, this forum is full of hypocritical agenda driven nonsense.

Rodriguez can do no wrong despite doing nothing right all season.

Foster has been awful for most of the season, so sloppy with the ball, yet because he runs around a lot he’s given a free pass.

Let’s hammer Trafford all season yet when Muric kicks one into his own net let’s blame everyone but Muric.

Leaking goal after goal down Taylor’s side in back to back PL campaigns, consistently one of our worst rated players (by Opta stats) yet he’s given a free pass. It’s not his fault he can’t cross a football.

Amdouni wouldn't get so much stick if he created chances or did anything at all at the other end, what positives does he offer? At least whilst carrying Benson he offers a goal threat.
Muric has been given it today it was a stupid mistake but to even put him in the same sentence as Trafford shows your lack of football knowledge and shows who actually has an 'agenda'.
Taylor has been brilliant for us who else do we play there? We spent £100 million and overloaded positions yet didn't spend on a much needed left back, is that Taylors or VKs fault?
Not sure where you have seen positives about Rodriguez all I've seen is people calling him this season, his time was up two summers ago.

Why can't you just finally admit the man you've backed everything on has failed the club and the fans this season?

[Newcastleclaret93]

You have to be kidding, your putting last seasons promotion on dyches ethos? Key players last season muric, Beyer, Maatsen, Cullen, brownhill, benson and Barnes. I understand you aren’t a fan of kompany but you cannot think last season was down to the existing players ethos, cork and roberts barely featured under dyche in his last season

I do believe it yes.

This season will be the indicator. If he gets us promoted then fair play he will be better than I think he is.

If he doesn’t then I think that first season was down to the imprint Dyche had left on the club.

[123EasyasBFC]

I do believe it yes.

This season will be the indicator. If he gets us promoted then fair play he will be better than I think he is.

If he doesn’t then I think that first season was down to the imprint Dyche had left on the club.

What imprint and ethos do you think dyche left on last seasons promotion and which key players are you referring to?

[ClaretLoup]

I wonder why the promoted teams are the bottom 3, can't put my finger on the reason that would be.....

The previous season all three stayed up. Forest, Cherries and Fulham.

[Newcastleclaret93]

What imprint and ethos do you think dyche left on last seasons promotion and which key players are you referring to?

The fact that the squad VK inherited had the most premier league games in the entire division. Key players with vast experience that lead the younger players such as Barnes, Cork, Brownhill etc….

This next season we will have considerably less premier league experience and by the sounds of it considerably less finances to throw around.

Let’s see how good VK actually is.

[123EasyasBFC]

The previous season all three stayed up. Forest, Cherries and Fulham.

Fulham went back down after their promotion regrouped and came back up more organised and wiser with their signings, something we would need to do.

Forest hard to judge them with all their financials

Bournemouth did very well gary o‘Neil proved over 2 seasons what a good coach he is

[MrTopTier]

I do genuinely believe that last season was purely down to the ethos Dyche has imbedded in the key players in the squad.

This next season will be a true indicator. It may sound harsh but I honestly couldn’t care less if we win every single game. He’s not a manager I want anywhere near this club

What a whopper, giving credit to Dyche for Kompany’s achievements last year. Standard response from such a negative poster, why bother, really. Not like someone like Pace or Kompany is ever going to respond to someone as inadequate as you.

[Newcastleclaret93]

What a whopper, giving credit to Dyche for Kompany’s achievements last year. Standard response from such a negative poster, why bother, really. Not like someone like Pace or Kompany is ever going to respond to someone as inadequate as you.

Haha I’m sure pace and VK are dieing to respond to you.

Some fans, your a number nothing else

[alboclaret]

I must have dreamed us getting a draw at Stamford Bridge with 10 men, beating Brentford and drawing away at a good West ham side all in the last month. Im not saying we are great but we are now competitive in the majority of matches. I could argue that if Kompany had his star striker fit all season then we may well have a lot more points.

When he is fit he's decided to start playing him out on the right. Wtf.