Burnley v B@stards play off final

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Burnley v B@stards play off final

Post by ClaretsPadiham » Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:25 pm

If it ever happened would they move it somewhere closer ? Old Trafford/Etihad etc

I think they probably would.

I’d love to experience this game at some point in my life but asking as we win, imagine the build up and the day itself.

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Post by ClaretsPadiham » Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:32 pm

Wow just done a quick check and since the Play Off system was introduced in 1987, out of all 3 leagues there’s never been a final with 2 teams that class each other as there MAIN rivals.

How has this never happened in nearly 40 years !!

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:42 pm

it would be at Wembley and it would be borderline unmanageable for the police, I hope it never happens.
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Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:45 pm

It'll be at Wembley 100% - that Stadium needs paying for
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Post by claretburns » Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:42 am

ClaretsPadiham wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:32 pm
Wow just done a quick check and since the Play Off system was introduced in 1987, out of all 3 leagues there’s never been a final with 2 teams that class each other as there MAIN rivals.

How has this never happened in nearly 40 years !!
Off the top of my head the closest was Swansea v Cardiff in 2011 but Cardiff lost the play off semi final to Reading.

We did have Stockport v Rochdale in the 2008 League Two play off Final and a couple of Yorkshire derbies but not a game between two arch rivals. Closest was probably Brentford v Fulham in a West London Derby in the Championship play off final in 2020 behind closed doors due to COVID.

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Re: Burnley v B@stards play off final

Post by Quicknick » Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:21 am

claretburns wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:42 am
Off the top of my head the closest was Swansea v Cardiff in 2011 but Cardiff lost the play off semi final to Reading.

We did have Stockport v Rochdale in the 2008 League Two play off Final and a couple of Yorkshire derbies but not a game between two arch rivals. Closest was probably Brentford v Fulham in a West London Derby in the Championship play off final in 2020 behind closed doors due to COVID.
Brentford v Fulham: the politest of local derbies.

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Post by bumba » Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:23 am

Ipswich v Norwich is a real possiblity this year if they can avoid each other in the semi final

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Re: Burnley v B@stards play off final

Post by Quicknick » Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:02 am

No chance of Burnley v Blackburn in the playoff final next year. We'll be midtable, they'll go down.

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Post by ChrisG » Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:01 am

I'm pretty sure if the Met can handle City and United fans travelling down for the FA Cup, and Millwall, Chelsea, and West Ham, they can more than look after us and Blackburn.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:15 am

ClaretsPadiham wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:32 pm
Wow just done a quick check and since the Play Off system was introduced in 1987, out of all 3 leagues there’s never been a final with 2 teams that class each other as there MAIN rivals.

How has this never happened in nearly 40 years !!
You obviously don't rate Stockport as our main rivals.

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Re: Burnley v B@stards play off final

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:32 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:42 pm
it would be at Wembley and it would be borderline unmanageable for the police, I hope it never happens.
I think you have been out of the country too long if you think our fan base cause trouble.

The working man who caused trouble years ago has been priced out of football. We are very much a family club nowadays.

You might get trouble on the Blackburn side as jealousy can stoke hatred, like we had when they were better?

But the only trouble I have seen between both sets of fans in this fixture has been on social media.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:54 am

Best game in the world to win, but it'd be the worst game in the world to lose so for me I hope it never happen's

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:09 am

Wasn't there a sheff wed v sheff utd semi final or final not too long ago.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:24 am

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:09 am
Wasn't there a sheff wed v sheff utd semi final or final not too long ago.
FA Cup wasn't it.

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Post by ChrisG » Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:29 am

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:09 am
Wasn't there a sheff wed v sheff utd semi final or final not too long ago.
That not too long ago was 1993, 31 years back!

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Post by Tribesmen » Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:20 pm

I would hate to play Rovers in a play off Final , hard to think what it would be on here if we were beaten at it .

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Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:35 pm

It'll be Karma for them, after we won the league at Ewood

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Post by bobinho » Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:52 pm

ClaretsPadiham wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:25 pm
If it ever happened would they move it somewhere closer ? Old Trafford/Etihad etc

I think they probably would.

I’d love to experience this game at some point in my life but asking as we win, imagine the build up and the day itself.
Nope. Not a chance. Wembley has to be paid for….

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Re: Burnley v B@stards play off final

Post by bobinho » Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:58 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:32 am
I think you have been out of the country too long if you think our fan base cause trouble.

The working man who caused trouble years ago has been priced out of football. We are very much a family club nowadays.

You might get trouble on the Blackburn side as jealousy can stoke hatred, like we had when they were better?

But the only trouble I have seen between both sets of fans in this fixture has been on social media.
Wow!

Our fan base DO cause trouble. You’ve been very lucky to have seen none. I’ve seen plenty and some of it was at the youth cup game only a few years ago.

This game would have to be managed to the point that motorway services would need to be allocated to certain clubs and the rail network would be unmanageable carnage.

There would be plenty of trouble, and no mistake. I don’t want there to be, but alcohol, cocaine and a lack of brain power would guarantee it.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:00 pm

bobinho wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:58 pm
Wow!

Our fan base DO cause trouble. You’ve been very lucky to have seen none. I’ve seen plenty and some of it was at the youth cup game only a few years ago.

This game would have to be managed to the point that motorway services would need to be allocated to certain clubs and the rail network would be unmanageable carnage.

There would be plenty of trouble, and no mistake. I don’t want there to be, but alcohol, cocaine and a lack of brain power would guarantee it.
Where was the trouble?

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Post by bobinho » Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:01 pm

Outside the spar shop on the way back to Mill Hill station.
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Post by ChrisG » Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:04 pm

bobinho wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:58 pm
Wow!

Our fan base DO cause trouble. You’ve been very lucky to have seen none. I’ve seen plenty and some of it was at the youth cup game only a few years ago.

This game would have to be managed to the point that motorway services would need to be allocated to certain clubs and the rail network would be unmanageable carnage.

There would be plenty of trouble, and no mistake. I don’t want there to be, but alcohol, cocaine and a lack of brain power would guarantee it.
Do you seriously think that Burnley and Blackburn are a bigger issue for the bobbies than United and City travelling down from the same station?

I'd rather have a run in with Shadsworth's finest than a mob from Moss Side.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:16 pm

bobinho wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:01 pm
Outside the spar shop on the way back to Mill Hill station.
I went on the club organised buses to that one I think.

But I walked back to Blackburn train station after the FA Cup game. I thought we would go to Mill Hill but it was one long walk back.
No trouble at all.

Our fanbase has changed massively since we have been in the prem.

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Post by Targetman » Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:24 pm

bobinho wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:58 pm
Wow!

Our fan base DO cause trouble. You’ve been very lucky to have seen none. I’ve seen plenty and some of it was at the youth cup game only a few years ago.

This game would have to be managed to the point that motorway services would need to be allocated to certain clubs and the rail network would be unmanageable carnage.

There would be plenty of trouble, and no mistake. I don’t want there to be, but alcohol, cocaine and a lack of brain power would guarantee it.

Different service stations has been the norm for many years if 2 neighbouring clubs have been travelling down to Wembley for any final.

Also its not unusual for the police to specify that fans also have to use different motorways when travelling to Wembley ie. M6/M1 and M40

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:50 pm

Targetman wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:24 pm
Different service stations has been the norm for many years if 2 neighbouring clubs have been travelling down to Wembley for any final.

Also its not unusual for the police to specify that fans also have to use different motorways when travelling to Wembley ie. M6/M1 and M40
There was plenty of trouble on the way back from Wembley in the service stations. Caused by sore losers Sheff Utd.

There has been far more trouble with clubs like Wigan and Blackpool than Rovers over the years.

Hopefully we get to visit pubs in each others towns before the game and normalise the game.

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Post by ClaretsPadiham » Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:41 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:00 pm
Where was the trouble?
Lots of trouble that night at Ewood, and the reverse fixture at Turf Moor there was 8 arrests.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:14 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:32 am
I think you have been out of the country too long if you think our fan base cause trouble.

The working man who caused trouble years ago has been priced out of football. We are very much a family club nowadays.

You might get trouble on the Blackburn side as jealousy can stoke hatred, like we had when they were better?

But the only trouble I have seen between both sets of fans in this fixture has been on social media.
sorry, you are very wrong.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:07 am

ClaretsPadiham wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:41 pm
Lots of trouble that night at Ewood, and the reverse fixture at Turf Moor there was 8 arrests.
I don't even remember Rovers fans coming to Burnley for the reverse fixture.
We were sat in the CF stand so where were the away fans?

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Post by mdd2 » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:50 am

The safety issues would be such that it would likely be moved to Lusail stadium. The heat and police presence should limit the rioting

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:21 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:07 am
I don't even remember Rovers fans coming to Burnley for the reverse fixture.
We were sat in the CF stand so where were the away fans?
They got off at Burnley Barracks that night and walked into the town centre there was a bit a trouble with them before the polcie arrived, after the match the trouble began under the culvert and continued through the bus station and town centre.

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Post by ClaretsPadiham » Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:29 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:07 am
I don't even remember Rovers fans coming to Burnley for the reverse fixture.
We were sat in the CF stand so where were the away fans?
I’m pretty sure it was B@stards fans in the CFS that night.

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Post by TsarBomba » Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:51 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:42 pm
it would be at Wembley and it would be borderline unmanageable for the police, I hope it never happens.
There’s 4,500 public order events every year in London that have to be policed to some capacity.

Would there be trouble between Burnley and Blackburn? Yeah, probably, but it’s just another football game.

Not a patch on the amount of resourcing and planning that goes into Notting Hill Carnival, NYE, Ceremonial events etc.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:49 pm

ClaretsPadiham wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:29 pm
I’m pretty sure it was B@stards fans in the CFS that night.
Yeah, just checked YouTube and in 2012 they were definitely in the CF with the upper JM closed.

Was there another one on the Turf a bit earlier than that?
Otherwise my memory is very poor.
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