ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

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ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:03 pm

Man of the match & player ratings result v Everton

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by Goliath » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:27 pm

Hell of a talent. A lot better than Keane and Tarkowski were when they first came to the Premier League and I guess he's younger too.

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by burnley007 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:20 pm

I think he is staying next season too, am I right?

great talent, barely puts a foot wrong

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by Goliath » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:22 pm

Also, I believe left-footed centre backs are a bit of a rare breed at the top level so that should put a premium on his price when it comes to moving him on which will be a nice bonus

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by NewClaret » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:39 pm

Could turn out to be our best signing of the current crop. Brilliant player in my opinion.
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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by burnley007 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:49 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:39 pm
Could turn out to be our best signing of the current crop. Brilliant player in my opinion.
agreed
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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by warksclaret » Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:10 pm

Already stated this week that I think by Christmas he will be our best CH-looked so promising v Palace despite a poor team performance

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:41 pm

Can he do it on a mild Tuesday in September at Millwall though?

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:29 am

Goliath wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:27 pm
Hell of a talent. A lot better than Keane and Tarkowski were when they first came to the Premier League and I guess he's younger too.
Really?

On ages, yes younger than Tarky but just about the same age as Keane was when we signed him.

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by Goliath » Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:34 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:29 am
Really?

On ages, yes younger than Tarky but just about the same age as Keane was when we signed him.
I think so. Keane got dropped for Duff in that first season, who I'd say was probably about 35 or 36. I don't think Esteve would ever have had that problem.

Tarkowski was sat on thr bench as well waiting for Keane to leave. But when he did play he looked pretty ropey.

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:58 am

Goliath wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:34 am
I think so. Keane got dropped for Duff in that first season, who I'd say was probably about 35 or 36. I don't think Esteve would ever have had that problem.

Tarkowski was sat on thr bench as well waiting for Keane to leave. But when he did play he looked pretty ropey.
Keane had to wait a while for his debut, getting in when Duff got injured at Stoke in November and then got a decent run in the side. Tarky did have to wait for Keane to leave but then stepped in for him and we reached the Europa League qualifiers at the end of his first season. Tarky went on to win the player of the year on UTC for four consecutive seasons. I'll be honest, I haven't seen a Keane or a Tarky in Estève yet.

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by warksclaret » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:08 am

Esteve is a good example that you need a number of games to establish yourself and develop and settle into the team. So many of this year's squad just did not get the chance, and this is probably a bi-product of the squad being just too big
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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:14 am

He’s done OK since he came, but I wouldn’t (and hope Vinny doesn’t) write Beyer and Al Dakhil off just yet.

I still think they’ll have big futures in the game.

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:17 am

I'm shocked that anyone would be comparing Esteve to Keane or Tarkowski at this stage. He has had some decent games and some poor games so far.

As yet, he's a long way off comparisons to two of our top three centre halves in recent years, in my opinion.

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by claretcarrot93 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:00 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:17 am
I'm shocked that anyone would be comparing Esteve to Keane or Tarkowski at this stage. He has had some decent games and some poor games so far.

As yet, he's a long way off comparisons to two of our top three centre halves in recent years, in my opinion.
Potential they are talking about. He has all the attributes to be a top defender. Getting better every game. Him and Beyer be an unreal championship partnership

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:29 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:00 pm
Potential they are talking about. He has all the attributes to be a top defender. Getting better every game. Him and Beyer be an unreal championship partnership
Yeah fair enough, I can see him doing well in the Championship.

I’m with CT at the moment though in that I don’t yet see someone with the potential to reach the level Tarkowski has achieved. Happy to be proved wrong in time though.

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Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Post by Goliath » Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:46 pm

As mentioned I wasn't saying he's anywhere near their peak. I just think he looks more ready to go at this level than they did.

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