Chelsea v Everton

[ClaretTony]

I've merged the threads and remained them to Chelsea v Everton

[Rileybobs]

As gutting as it is for us to hear we were close to getting him on loan for a season, just imagine how bad it is for City fans imagining Palmer / Foden being their future.

Huge error from Pep.

Was he not sold because he’s a home grown player so therefore his entire transfer fee counts as a profit as far as the financial regulations go? I’m sure Pep will sleep easy.

As an aside, Palmer made his professional debut against Burnley back in 2020.

[Swizzlestick]

There was a clip of Pickford after the last Euros where he went back home to see his family etc and he came across as a very grounded, down to earth lad. He’s a moaner on the pitch and a bit of a character but I think the game needs a bit of that.

[agreenwood]

Absolutely terrible, but still enough to get 65%
More points than burnkey have this season.

…and so they should with a squad full of internationals and PL experience.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Imagine if we could somehow shoe horn Palmer, Foden, Saka, Bellingham and Kane into a side

[kentonclaret]

Deli Alli had never noticed previously that Cole Palmer had a striker’s instinct, even though he is level on 19 goals with Ollie Watkins.

[NewClaret]

The Everton fans are not happy.

Making this board look a hive of positivity tonight.

Dyche a dinosaur.
Tarky static & overhyped.
Beto the worst striker in the prem.

[NewClaret]

Everton very open for a Dyche side tonight.

[beddie]

How many are there. It’s like being in Church.

[Swizzlestick]

You know things are not going well when Dyche goes for triple sub at HT.

Worrying one for him this game as these are the type of teams he’d usually relish playing - obviously Palmer is on fire but there’s been a lot of naive performances from that Chelsea team this season and he’d be looking to make it as difficult as possible in the past. Just doesn’t seem to be there with this team.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Just for a bit of fun:

Palmer 37 goal contributions in 35 games
Saka 30 goal contributions in 37 games
Foden 30 goal contributions in 36 games
Bellingham 29 goal contributions in 31 games
Kane 49 goal contributions in 38 games


That is some unbelievable attacking talent at our disposal for this summer

[Rileybobs]

What the hell has he given this for?

[Rileybobs]

What a bunch of babies.

[IPAclaret]

Really insightful half time analysis from Delle Ali, compelling stuff...

[claptrappers_union]

Why has the penalty been given?

[Rileybobs]

Why has the penalty been given?

I think it was given for a culmination of penalty appeals. The ref clearly gave it for the second and took his chances that one of the challenges was a foul.

[claptrappers_union]

But none of them were fouls, were they?

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Chelsea are good at getting penalties for no foul.

[Rileybobs]

But none of them were fouls, were they?

No, but two nearly fouls equals a foul, doesn’t it?

[dandeclaret]

I didn’t see a foul in there….. but then I thought Michael Keane’s was a red card. Maybe VAR don’t work Mondays.

[beddie]

If they sack Dyche after this I hope Kompany gets on the phone to Billy Mercer.

[claptrappers_union]

I honestly don't know the rules anymore

[IPAclaret]

Spoilt brat chelsea players squabbling like a bunch of school girls over who'll take the penalty. Whoppers.

[claptrappers_union]

Spoilt brat chelsea players squabbling like a bunch of school girls over who'll take the penalty. Whoppers.

There must be some big goal bonuses at Stamford Bridge

[Rileybobs]

If they sack Dyche after this I hope Kompany gets on the phone to Billy Mercer.

I don’t think Billy Mercer will have the authority to appoint Kompany.

[Nonayforever]

Tarks just an out and out thug now.

[agreenwood]

But none of them were fouls, were they?

Stood on his heel, but I think ref gave it for second one and then got off the hook by way of the first one being the actual foul.

Sky making out that he was playing advantage and brought it back for first foul, but there’s no way you play advantage when the ball is then played back out of the box.

[Mark the Claret]

Spoilt brat chelsea players squabbling like a bunch of school girls over who'll take the penalty. Whoppers.

The manager should have shown his authority by subbing them both, they are 5-0 up, so it wouldn't have affected the result.

[NewClaret]

Was he not sold because he’s a home grown player so therefore his entire transfer fee counts as a profit as far as the financial regulations go? I’m sure Pep will sleep easy.

As an aside, Palmer made his professional debut against Burnley back in 2020.

Not sure City have any issues with PSR though? And if they did, sure they could e found another way of satisfying it without selling one of the English footballs best talents.

[Stayingup]

Unfortunately, they’ve plenty of games against sides as bad, if not worse, than they are. Forest, Brentford, Sheff United all at home and a trip to Luton too. They’ll pick up enough not to worry about us (or Luton) catching them.

We really, really shouldn’t be going down, this season.

Wish I could agree with you on that but conceding 5 twice and 4 at home and scoring one per game,. Plus conceding late goals and committing hari kari and sadly suffering some terrible officiating sadly we do. Oh and some bizarre management decisions on team selection.

[Goliath]

Tarks just an out and out thug now.

He was quite a soft footballing centre back when we first signed him!

[NewClaret]

This could’ve been a cricket score with decent finishing. That Mudryk effort was dreadful.

[Rileybobs]

Not sure City have any issues with PSR though? And if they did, sure they could e found another way of satisfying it without selling one of the English footballs best talents.

I’m not entirely sure where Man City stand in regards to PSR, but selling Palmer was more financially beneficial than selling an equivalently valuable player who wasn’t an academy product.

Palmer’s having a great season and looks a real player, but City have a lot of them so I’m not sure how much they’ll regret selling him. I think it’s probably a lot easier to stand out in this Chelsea side than Man City’s too.

[boatshed bill]

Just for a bit of fun:

Palmer 37 goal contributions in 35 games
Saka 30 goal contributions in 37 games
Foden 30 goal contributions in 36 games
Bellingham 29 goal contributions in 31 games
Kane 49 goal contributions in 38 games


That is some unbelievable attacking talent at our disposal for this summer

Just when we seem to have a lack of defensive quality

[CrosspoolClarets]

This Everton side are better than most of Dyche’s Burnley sides. Particularly in central midfield and upfront with Calvert Lewin. This thread is abusing them but they will stay up easily. They just aren’t pretty.

Dyche has done well with the resources at his disposal. This league is brutal.

[burnmark]

Does Graham Scott just do 4th Official duties now?

[dandeclaret]

Stood on his heel, but I think ref gave it for second one and then got off the hook by way of the first one being the actual foul.

Sky making out that he was playing advantage and brought it back for first foul, but there’s no way you play advantage when the ball is then played back out of the box.

He didn’t signal advantage after the first incident either.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Just when we seem to have a lack of defensive quality

I would say our defence isn’t world class, but we still have some elite players in that back line.

Stones, Walker (world class in my opinion). Then Maguire, Chillwell, Shaw, Guehi, Lewis, Tomori are all top players.

Depending on how we set up we could blow opposition teams away this summer.

[claptrappers_union]

Premier Leagues signing of the season

[boatshed bill]

I would say our defence isn’t world class, but we still have some elite players in that back line.

Stones, Walker (world class in my opinion). Then Maguire, Chillwell, Shaw, Guehi, Lewis, Tomori are all top players.

Depending on how we set up we could blow opposition teams away this summer.

Maybe so, but some of those are in decline: Walker, Shaw and Maguire... and Chillwell is crap

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

This Everton side are better than most of Dyche’s Burnley sides. Particularly in central midfield and upfront with Calvert Lewin. This thread is abusing them but they will stay up easily. They just aren’t pretty.

Dyche has done well with the resources at his disposal. This league is brutal.

Don’t think Everton fans would agree he’s done well.

[Darnhill Claret]

I thought when the ref gave the pen, he seemed to point to the penalty spot and the area where Palmer went down.

[Papabendi]

Fair bit of cash in this Everton team..didn’t we draw against Chelsea 2-2 with ten? I think Everton fans want Dyche gone.

[IanMcL]

Well done Chelsea.

Come on Prem...deduct some more points!

[NewClaret]

I’m not entirely sure where Man City stand in regards to PSR, but selling Palmer was more financially beneficial than selling an equivalently valuable player who wasn’t an academy product.

Palmer’s having a great season and looks a real player, but City have a lot of them so I’m not sure how much they’ll regret selling him. I think it’s probably a lot easier to stand out in this Chelsea side than Man City’s too.

Chester Perry will have to come on and correct me but pretty sure they’re regularly profitable and have no PSR worries. I just don’t see how an academy player sold for £40m and full profit taken would materially benefit them vs a sale at a similar level deducting the purchase price . If they were near the wire, fine, but I don’t think there was any pressure to sell.

He’s 21, near top scorer in the league and has a decade at the top level together. For £42.5m I’d say that’s a monumental error. Although clearly less impactful when you have a squad full of similarly talented players.

[Papabendi]

You know things are not going well when Dyche goes for triple sub at HT.

Worrying one for him this game as these are the type of teams he’d usually relish playing - obviously Palmer is on fire but there’s been a lot of naive performances from that Chelsea team this season and he’d be looking to make it as difficult as possible in the past. Just doesn’t seem to be there with this team.

Looks to me like he may have lost the dressing room with the rot setting in during the `Portugal trip. Doubt some of his back room staff will be helping matters,

[NewClaret]

Well done Chelsea.

Come on Prem...deduct some more points!

They, or 777, have to repay £160m of loans by 5am tomorrow morning. If not…

[IanMcL]

Another 4 goals! The lad is whatever comes after 'on fire'.

Thanks for doing Everton.

[IanMcL]

That may be why the wheels have come off. Players may well be thinking....what's the point - get 3 points lose them again because of directors.

[NewClaret]

It’s only really if they go in to admin they’ll lose more points this season. I’d say that’s unlikely, but they’re in incredible trouble whatever happens this year. They need this 777 deal to fall through and an immediate knight in shining armour to emerge.