That positivity vibe?
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That positivity vibe?
There have been a few occasions over the last few weeks where that positivity vibe has started to to take over after some reasonable results/performances. I start looking at the table, doing the calculations, looking at each team's remaining fixtures...
BUT...
If we beat Sheff Utd on Saturday, will that positivity return? Surely it's all too late now?
BUT...
If we beat Sheff Utd on Saturday, will that positivity return? Surely it's all too late now?
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Re: That positivity vibe?
Need a miracle to stay up but I can’t see us getting a win at Sheffield
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Re: That positivity vibe?
Sadly its somewhat akin to feeling stable in calm water, at the end of a plank walk
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Re: That positivity vibe?
We simply cannot lose on Saturday. A win won't make me believe that we are staying up, but to just not be the worst team in the PL will be better than nothing.
A nice low bar for us![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
A nice low bar for us
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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Re: That positivity vibe?
We're positively down.
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Re: That positivity vibe?
I'd be surprised if we manage to stay in the fight before the penultimate game.
Going to the game vs Sheffield United is all about enjoying the day out for me. I'll be making the most of the pre-match element of the day and have no expectations for after the game, let alone beyond that.
Going to the game vs Sheffield United is all about enjoying the day out for me. I'll be making the most of the pre-match element of the day and have no expectations for after the game, let alone beyond that.
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Re: That positivity vibe?
Finishing bottom doesn't bare thinking about.
But we haven't got a good record at Brammal Lane.
Just get the win.
But we haven't got a good record at Brammal Lane.
Just get the win.
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Don’t see us winning at Sheff U. They will be too physical for us
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Re: That positivity vibe?
We are much better than Sheff U, but will we show it on the day?
When the chips are down, this team have shown that they have no bottle. Unfortunately.
When the chips are down, this team have shown that they have no bottle. Unfortunately.
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If we can win 2 in a row then il have hope. Somehow it's still just about doable but very unlikely.
Om actually less hopeful of catching Luton than Forest. In the dream scenario it's not that difficult to see us being 2 points behind Forest going into the final game and then beating them.
Luton is more difficult because we don't play them.
Om actually less hopeful of catching Luton than Forest. In the dream scenario it's not that difficult to see us being 2 points behind Forest going into the final game and then beating them.
Luton is more difficult because we don't play them.
Re: That positivity vibe?
It's
Luton v Brentford
Everton v forest
Even if we win it might not matter.
Luton v Brentford
Everton v forest
Even if we win it might not matter.
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Re: That positivity vibe?
If we miraculously win 3 of our remaining games (one of which against Forest) then there's a chance.
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Re: That positivity vibe?
absolutely ZERO to gain from being negative
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Re: That positivity vibe?
I really hope we can win “El Crapico” on Saturday…. Will introduce a new level of despondency if we lose to Sheff U and Wilder , especially if they go on to overtake us and leave us rock bottom.
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When put like this it doesn't sound as implausible. Sheffield utd and one other, then Forest on the last day. Not sure if that'd be enough thoughCoolClaret wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:16 pmIf we miraculously win 3 of our remaining games (one of which against Forest) then there's a chance.
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Forgetting VAR,points deductions for other teams and a number of wrong refereeing decisions, theres no reason why we could not have beaten WHU at least once, Luton at home, Palace at home, Wolves at home,Brighton at home,Forest away, and taken a point at Wolves,Everton. Thats 16 points extra as a realistically minimum.
Poor management, costly errors, missing the type of absolute sitters which PL teams are expected to take, 7 red cards,inconceivable freezing out of players, and late and poor substitution s might have well increased those extra 16 points. It was all do-able but we blew it, and a lot of it is not rocket-science for a well run and coached PL club to get right
Poor management, costly errors, missing the type of absolute sitters which PL teams are expected to take, 7 red cards,inconceivable freezing out of players, and late and poor substitution s might have well increased those extra 16 points. It was all do-able but we blew it, and a lot of it is not rocket-science for a well run and coached PL club to get right
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This is very true unfortunately and makes you wonder what a change of management would have done earlier in the season.warksclaret wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:50 pmForgetting VAR,points deductions for other teams and a number of wrong refereeing decisions, theres no reason why we could not have beaten WHU at least once, Luton at home, Palace at home, Wolves at home,Brighton at home,Forest away, and taken a point at Wolves,Everton. Thats 16 points extra as a realistically minimum.
Poor management, costly errors, missing the type of absolute sitters which PL teams are expected to take, 7 red cards,inconceivable freezing out of players, and late and poor substitution s might have well increased those extra 16 points. It was all do-able but we blew it, and a lot of it is not rocket-science for a well run and coached PL club to get right
I'm happy with VK but it's hard to argue that a change wouldnt have seen us on a lot more points
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Re: That positivity vibe?
4 wins , Forest lose 4 and draw 1, Luton same and we will stay up comfortably ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
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Re: That positivity vibe?
I’m sure there will be a few who are clinging on, but it really is far enough down the line for everyone to be realistic and accept it’s done.
We’ve been shocking for most of the season, the high points being we have very occasionally been slightly less shocking than usual. Thats relegation.
We’ve been shocking for most of the season, the high points being we have very occasionally been slightly less shocking than usual. Thats relegation.
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Re: That positivity vibe?
We are just not showing anything that makes me think we will win several games. I think I may look forward to the new season in the Championship more than the Prem if we stayed up.
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Surely our luck has to improve, at least just 1 lucky win would be nice.
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I would take an unlucky win.Unfortunately I can't attend any more games due to family commitments but I am positive we will get more wins.Our injuries have been horrendous and some of our tactics and substitutions bizarre but we have the talent to succeed.. UTC
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There's positivity and there's delusion. Sheffield United are a poor side, our performances by and large have been better in the last few weeks, and it's a winnable game. But this team and manager are simply not capable of keeping us in the league, especially in this position.
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Re: That positivity vibe?
The most frustrating part for me is that if we stayed up, I could really see us pushing on next season.
Relegation is a big step backwards, but the team can still evolve.
Most players are still learning the VK style, hopefully a bit of consistency over the next 18 months will help.
Relegation is a big step backwards, but the team can still evolve.
Most players are still learning the VK style, hopefully a bit of consistency over the next 18 months will help.
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Re: That positivity vibe?
As the Will Young lyrics go…
But if I lose the highs at least I’m spared the lows
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It's a funny fixture is Sheff Utd. History tells us it tends to be a home win either way.
You have to go back to the Coyle season of 2008 for our last victory at Bramall Lane. Before that you're going back to 1973, so to say it's a rarity is an understatement.
I think we have more than enough quality to win on Saturday though. If we put in the same type of performance we did recently vs Brighton, Brentford, Wolves, Chelsea we'll have too much. However, if we turn up like we did at Goodison the other week it'll be a long afternoon. Not that it'll have any bearing on the season either way!
You have to go back to the Coyle season of 2008 for our last victory at Bramall Lane. Before that you're going back to 1973, so to say it's a rarity is an understatement.
I think we have more than enough quality to win on Saturday though. If we put in the same type of performance we did recently vs Brighton, Brentford, Wolves, Chelsea we'll have too much. However, if we turn up like we did at Goodison the other week it'll be a long afternoon. Not that it'll have any bearing on the season either way!
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Re: That positivity vibe?
SU will do what Everton did to us by allowing us to pass it around a lot without getting anywhere whilst pressing high up and humping long ball/set pieces in. It depends on whether we've learnt anything from that game as to whether we get anything
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No positive vibe from me unfortunately.
Far too many 'must win' games this season where we have snatched defeat from the jaws of one or three points
Let's hope Vinnie can recreate next season, what he achieved previously....or he'll be out by Christmas....and any longer term aspiration of him managing City will be in tatters.
Far too many 'must win' games this season where we have snatched defeat from the jaws of one or three points
Let's hope Vinnie can recreate next season, what he achieved previously....or he'll be out by Christmas....and any longer term aspiration of him managing City will be in tatters.
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We defended well against Everton, as we have done recently at set pieces.
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Jack Robinson is out so no long throws to defend is a bonus.
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Re: That positivity vibe?
I think that Sander Berge will need earplugs for todays match the Sheffield Utd will be on his back the whole match, hope he will be able to rise above it for our sake