Kompany to Brighton?

[bumba]

Of course that goes without saying but it’s do or die and we surrender points like that? So frustrating.

I get what your saying but I think he's won us more points than he's cost us in his short run.
Think it's become pretty obvious had Muric played all season we wouldn't even be close to the relegation zone we'd already be safe I think, that lands on one man's head and that's VK.

[MDWat]

Just seen Alan on the train to London this morning and this certainly is not happening!

Amazed nobody picked up on this post - what did he have to say?

[gsyclaret]

He tweeted something like "this is why you should not let children on social media"

[Darnhill Claret]

As all keepers are possibly 1 game away from a serious error that will cost their teams big time, it pains me to see any of our goalkeepers hammered for errors and opinions like 'neither are PL quality'. In that case no goalkeeper is PL quality.

[TheFamilyCat]

I get what your saying but I think he's won us more points than he's cost us in his short run.
Think it's become pretty obvious had Muric played all season we wouldn't even be close to the relegation zone we'd already be safe I think, that lands on one man's head and that's VK.

It's not obvious at all. Saying itvso many times doesn't make it true.

[spt_claret]

You’re making up crap as you go along, telling me who I like and don’t. I was a staunch defender of Muric last season, I said this season Id like to see him playing over Trafford.

The fact is he’s made two awful mistakes at a critical time of the season and without those we might be outside the relegation zone. Of course he’s going to receive criticism for those mistakes and of course fans are going to be nervous with him in goal for the following game.

I slag off Dyche and get dogs abuse which is warranted, but it’s toxic to give those same posters a bit back when they criticise VK.

You're still not listening.
Once again- you have a noticeable habit of turning on and suddenly regularly criticising players if Kompany goes through a spell not favouring them, because you seem incapable of criticising anything he does.
You dish abuse out to players, and posters, if they disagree with you in terms you find unreasonable, while talking about players (or previously, our manager at the time) in the same way yourself. That's what makes you toxic, not your opinions or your disagreement. There's things you say I agree with and disagree with and you clearly know the European leagues pretty well, but you're incredibly hypocritical in the way you communicate on here and that's why I took issue with your posts in this thread- because you do, and have, laid into posters for the same or less about other players.

[boatshed bill]

It's not obvious at all. Saying itvso many times doesn't make it true.

Muric's inclusion has certainly coincided with an improvement in results but let's not underestimate the improvement throughout the team, particularly the development of the defensive partnership of O'Shea and Esteve.

[TheFamilyCat]

Muric's inclusion has certainly coincided with an improvement in results but let's not underestimate the improvement throughout the team, particularly the development of the defensive partnership of O'Shea and Esteve.

Exactly. There has been a number of factors that have contributed to our good run of late, Muric’s inclusion is just one of them.

[CoolClaret]

Muric's inclusion has certainly coincided with an improvement in results but let's not underestimate the improvement throughout the team, particularly the development of the defensive partnership of O'Shea and Esteve.

Muric does help that partnership though - for a start they don't have to receive the ball 5-10 yards from the goalkeeper for most of the game and know that anything in the 6 yard box Muric is going to come for.

Just look at the positions that our defenders take up in possession since the swap - it's chalk and cheese.

[boatshed bill]

Muric does help that partnership though - for a start they don't have to receive the ball 5-10 yards from the goalkeeper for most of the game and know that anything in the 6 yard box Muric is going to come for.

Just look at the positions that our defenders take up in possession since the swap - it's chalk and cheese.

Yes, I am not doubting his contribution.

[bumba]

It's not obvious at all. Saying itvso many times doesn't make it true.

The upturn in form since Murics inclusion isn't obvious?
Blatantly obvious to anybody I know, he's injected confidence in to the team.

[KRBFC]

Most reasonable fans will look at things over a a number of games rather than pick out the mistakes or games to suit an opinion they had already made.
When you look at the period of time Muric has returned to the team and compare that to the period of time when Trafford was playing I do not know anyone who has said that they believe Trafford (or the team) performed better than Muric.

And I have been strongly against the abuse and obsession that some posters on this board have given Trafford. It’s been embarrassing and toxic is not too strong a description. Again most reasonable fans took a much more balanced view that whilst they were also calling for Muric to replace Trafford they were also fully aware that Muric had serious flaws in him too and that has been proven by his big mistakes which have cost us important points.

As usual you went off waffling about something nobody ever said, may as well just argue with yourself at this point. Wether I love a player or not, they deserve criticism after making two mistakes like that. I don’t care if your name is Kiraly, Penny, Trafford or Muric.

[TheFamilyCat]

The upturn in form since Murics inclusion isn't obvious?
Blatantly obvious to anybody I know, he's injected confidence in to the team.

You never mentioned the upturn in form. You said "it's become pretty obvious had Muric played all season we wouldn't even be close to the relegation zone we'd already be safe". Two very different statements.

[boatshed bill]

You never mentioned the upturn in form. You said "it's become pretty obvious had Muric played all season we wouldn't even be close to the relegation zone we'd already be safe". Two very different statements.

And there's no way of knowing if that is fact, obviously.

[ClaretTony]

I've just, sadly, had to delete a number of posts on this thread and one poster's account has now been suspended for seven days. I'm just not having this.

Thanks to the poster that reported it and can I again ask that you don't respond. It makes things much easier.

[Tackler49]

Kompany to Brighton, i can’t see that really but it was said on the radio this week that he will leave if we are relegated if true so much for the 5yr plan. Even if he stays i can’t see us coming straight back (if relegated) but that said i didn’t think we would win last week 50yrs+ a Claret but still can’t predict what happens next UTC

[Darnhill Claret]

Said on the radio that he would go to Spurs as well, so don't worry about that.

A five year plan renews every 12 months, so don't worry about that either.

If and when, sorry when VK leaves, we well continue with the already established 5 Yr plan, ad infinitum.

[boatshed bill]

I'm not sure Di Zerbi is likely to get a move to a better club than Brighton for starters.

[Darnhill Claret]

I think he will. Don't think people put as much store into a few bad results when the overall trend is a positive one. First season in Europe and injuries to key players, are quite important mitigating, contributory factors, to a club with a relatively small squad.

[boatshed bill]

I think he will. Don't think people put as much store into a few bad results when the overall trend is a positive one. First season in Europe and injuries to key players, are quite important mitigating, contributory factors, to a club with a relatively small squad.

Where's Potter at present?

[beddie]

Where's Potter at present?

Working on his Earthenware.

[boatshed bill]

Working on his Earthenware.

Hands on?
TBH, I rated him higher than Di Zerbi.

[Darnhill Claret]

I expect Potter will be working on tactical plays, studying coaches and managers around the world, having had a break from football. I think that Chelsea might be a poisoned chalice for a little while longer yet. I am not expecting Mr Mourinho to have a trouble free time there.
Potter has had great success in his managerial career so far and one blip at Chelsea does not diminish his earlier achievements.
He will rise again.

[northernpowerhouse]

He’d do incredibly well at a side like Brighton, his coaching is made for better technical players.

Not easy getting some of our awful technical players to play football, you can lead a horse to water and all that…

Did anyone think Lewis Dunk or Solly March were technically brilliant before De Zerbi went there? Apart from a few exceptions like Mitoma I'm not sure they're that much better than us technically.