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The Keirby

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:48 pm

Sat in the usual traffic today on Church Street, looked across at the Keirby, its in an awful state, weeds growing out of the side of the walls, filthy windows, etc.

I knew it was in a poor state, but what a bloody eyesore.

Anyone know what's going on with it, does it house any businesses or whatever? Seem to remember a couple planning to buy and restore it about 5 years ago, don't know if anything came of that.
Or is it to be part of this seemingly interminable Town to Turf job?

Never the prettiest building, but sad to see it like this, my brother had his wedding reception there mid 70s.

If nowts going on with it, they might as well knock it down.
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Re: The Keirby

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:07 pm

It was closed down in 2019 by Lancashire fire and rescue and Burnley council after failing several safety issues, a real pity because it was the areas only 4 star hotel outside of Manchester and Liverpool when built
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Re: The Keirby

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:09 pm

I think it needs to be flattened unfortunately. It looks awful and I'm not sure anyone could make it look any better.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by burnmark » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:09 pm

Not sure how true it is but was told that the land/building belongs to someone who would expect a hefty fee to give permission for it to be bulldozed. Might be a load of rubbish.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by Goliath » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:19 pm

Seems mad that they are doing up the whole area but doing nothing with the keirby. It's a real dump.
Do Continentals still have a restaurant in that building?

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Re: The Keirby

Post by ClaretPope » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:25 pm

My understanding is that the hotel is completely closed and the owner is concentrating on operating the car park.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:47 pm

I was told it's housing immigrants as the rates the government pay are far higher than hotels can make.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by NewClaret » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:51 pm

If it’s empty surely the council can do a compulsory purchase order?

Such an eyesore that the council need to do something about.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:52 pm

There's no immigrants in there. It's unsafe.

Someone should just bite the bullet and buy it and flatten it

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Re: The Keirby

Post by MeeActon1 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:53 pm

burnmark wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:09 pm
Not sure how true it is but was told that the land/building belongs to someone who would expect a hefty fee to give permission for it to be bulldozed. Might be a load of rubbish.
Owned by a gentleman from Brierfield. No chance of him selling, he owns land in Nelson worth peanuts that Pendle council are trying to buy but he wants 10 million :shock: . It will be the same if Burnley council try to buy the Keirby. Although closed I have heard that hourly rates may be available.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:00 pm

2 interesting facts about The Kierby

1. It was once the subject of a question on University Challenge in the picture round. I think it was called The Crest Hotel back then - long time ago back in the days of Bamber Gascoigne
2. The hotel porter had a horrible traumatic experience with a local lothario (for those who can remember a certain previous thread on this board !!)
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Re: The Keirby

Post by karatekid » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:12 pm

Used to be a good night in the Swiss bar

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Re: The Keirby

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:21 pm

It was considered one of the top hotels in the north when it opened but for many years now the building has looked an absolute eyesore.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:28 pm

The Keirby and a lot of the brutalist buildings around the town need pulling down, they are truly rancid.

Really cheapens the look of the town which does have some lovely Victorian & Edwardian buildings dotted about.
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Re: The Keirby

Post by karatekid » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:30 pm

The row of shops in front of St. Peter’s need culling also.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:33 pm

Sounds like we're stuck with the eyesore. Great innit.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by burnmark » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:35 pm

Goliath wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:19 pm
Seems mad that they are doing up the whole area but doing nothing with the keirby. It's a real dump.
Do Continentals still have a restaurant in that building?
Continentals just operate from their original building for both daytime and evening service.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:38 pm

MeeActon1 wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:53 pm
Owned by a gentleman from Brierfield. No chance of him selling, he owns land in Nelson worth peanuts that Pendle council are trying to buy but he wants 10 million :shock: . It will be the same if Burnley council try to buy the Keirby. Although closed I have heard that hourly rates may be available.
If they can't buy it, surely the council have the power to make the owner/s at least externally renovate and make it smarter?

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Re: The Keirby

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:40 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:38 pm
If they can't buy it, surely the council have the power to make the owner/s at least externally renovate and make it smarter?
If not, then the law requires changing.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by Stalbansclaret » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:44 pm

[quote="Big Vinny K" post_id=2323071 time=1713812440 user_id=
The hotel porter had a horrible traumatic experience with a local lothario (for those who can remember a certain previous thread on this board !!)
[/quote]

The greatest post ever on here. Can never forget it. 😂😂
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Re: The Keirby

Post by MeeActon1 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:50 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:38 pm
If they can't buy it, surely the council have the power to make the owner/s at least externally renovate and make it smarter?
I don’t know. You would think so but looking at the state of some of the buildings around town, maybe they can’t or maybe the council can’t be bothered trying?

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Re: The Keirby

Post by gawthorpe_view » Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:26 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:44 pm
[quote="Big Vinny K" post_id=2323071 time=1713812440 user_id=
The hotel porter had a horrible traumatic experience with a local lothario (for those who can remember a certain previous thread on this board !!)
The greatest post ever on here. Can never forget it. 😂😂
[/quote]

Link please 😆

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Re: The Keirby

Post by Bosscat » Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:33 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:26 pm
The greatest post ever on here. Can never forget it. 😂😂
Link please 😆
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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23497&hilit=Keirby#p582530
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Re: The Keirby

Post by gawthorpe_view » Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:36 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:33 pm
Link please 😆
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23497&hilit=Keirby#p582530
[/quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Keirby

Post by helmclaret » Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:36 pm

That part of town needs totally regenerating.

The council should team up with JJ Watt and some other forward thinking people and do
something imaginative.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by dougcollins » Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:57 pm

MeeActon1 wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:50 pm
I don’t know. You would think so but looking at the state of some of the buildings around town, maybe they can’t or maybe the council can’t be bothered trying?
Councils have no money for litigation - the businesses know that and do as they please.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:39 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:36 pm
That part of town needs totally regenerating.

The council should team up with JJ Watt and some other forward thinking people and do
something imaginative.
Perhaps qualified Town Planners might be a better idea than JJ Watt ;)
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Re: The Keirby

Post by atlantalad » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:39 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:39 pm
Perhaps qualified Town Planners might be a better idea than JJ Watt ;)
I’d take my chances with what ever ideas JJ Watt comes up with given the mess of the road system in the town created by ‘qualified’ Town Planners.
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Re: The Keirby

Post by Carlos the Great » Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:56 am

Not sure can just knock it down ..it has a lot of phone masts on the roof that is probably generating the biggest revenue from the building which perhaps on long term deals

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Re: The Keirby

Post by bobinho » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:28 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:39 pm
Perhaps qualified Town Planners might be a better idea than JJ Watt ;)
Have you been in Burnley town centre? Everything from Game to the Keirby is an absolute abomination, signed off by town planners in the 50’s 60’s and 70’s, so I’d be up for letting JJ have a go at it to be honest.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by AlargeClaret » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:37 am

Be a tragedy if this palace of romance is finally razed..

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Re: The Keirby

Post by helmclaret » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:44 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:39 pm
Perhaps qualified Town Planners might be a better idea than JJ Watt ;)
Yeah, because that has worked!

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Re: The Keirby

Post by mikeS » Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:21 am

Strange that his Wikipedia profile doesn't mention anything at all about Burnley.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._J._Watt

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Re: The Keirby

Post by Bosscat » Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:55 am

mikeS wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:21 am
Strange that his Wikipedia profile doesn't mention anything at all about Burnley.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._J._Watt
Yes it does ... look in the bio in personal life....
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Re: The Keirby

Post by mikeS » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:54 am

Apologies. Missed it among all the other info.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:58 am

If its empty maybe it could benefit from a visit by a local pyromaniac. wouldn't be the first troublesome building to mysteriously go up in flames

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Re: The Keirby

Post by RicardoMontalban » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:28 am

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:58 am
If its empty maybe it could benefit from a visit by a local pyromaniac. wouldn't be the first troublesome building to mysteriously go up in flames
So hard luck for the businesses below that will invariably be forced to close?

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Re: The Keirby

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:39 am

How many are below the Keiby now? i don't know, you might have taken my post a little too seriously.....

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Re: The Keirby

Post by RicardoMontalban » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:50 am

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:39 am
How many are below the Keiby now? i don't know, you might have taken my post a little too seriously.....
Don’t worry, there was no danger of that.

Think they're all still occupied.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:53 am

RicardoMontalban wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:50 am
Don’t worry, there was no danger of that.

Think they're all still occupied.
Wasn't sure there was much there to occupy? Maybe Continentals and a car park?

I always liked the idea of turning that round cafe in the market square into a mexican place with a big sombrero trim on the roof :lol:

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Re: The Keirby

Post by RicardoMontalban » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:59 am

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:53 am
Wasn't sure there was much there to occupy? Maybe Continentals and a car park?

I always liked the idea of turning that round cafe in the market square into a mexican place with a big sombrero trim on the roof :lol:
There’s the row of shops underneath at the front as well which, while not exactly Rodeo Drive, are still operating.

The cafe really needs to maximise its space ship aesthetic.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by MarkGreen » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:31 pm

There are definitely people living in it.

Whether or not they are there legally is another matter. - Light comes on in some rooms and curtains/blinds openeing and closing

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Re: The Keirby

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:34 pm

Whats the derelict old pub thats just about still standing next to Burnley central? Another complete eyesore that needs bulldozing.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by HahaYeah » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:37 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:34 pm
Whats the derelict old pub thats just about still standing next to Burnley central? Another complete eyesore that needs bulldozing.
Must be the Adelphi, or the Reindeer.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by HahaYeah » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:53 pm

Another eyesore near to the Keirby is next to the Coach and Horses a row with a taxi rank on it.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by dougcollins » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:59 pm

Coach and Horses had the best pool room in town, I assume it's just disused now.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by theonlywayisup » Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:16 pm

I remember the post first time round. That link is comedy gold. Just hilarious.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by exilecanada » Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:55 pm

I have good memories of The Keirby, late 60's early 70's. It was the meeting place for my cronies and myself to decide where we were going for the rest of the evening. Also to pop in for a drink after a movie.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by Lubanski » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:19 pm

One of the best sprung dancefloors, Northern soul nights in the early 2000s attracted top djs and packed the place.

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Re: The Keirby

Post by Darnhill Claret » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:41 pm

A girlfriend of mine was the bar manager there for a couple of months in 1989.

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