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Post by burnley007 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:50 pm

Just watching the game back from Saturday.

There are parts to Assignon's game that are excellent, good going forward, brave and tough in the tackle.

The areas he struggles with are areas that can be coached in my opinion, diving in, positioning, marking etc

I would love to see him stay, I just think there is so much scope for improvement with him and he's pretty decent already!

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Re: Assignon

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:23 pm

his attempt to stop the Sheff Utd goal was embarrassing, proper schoolboy stuff. Like you say, that side can be coached.

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Re: Assignon

Post by Goliath » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:30 pm

How full backs can get to this level whilst still thinking diving into challenges all the time is the correct way to go about things is pretty amazing. It shows a certain lack of intellect to keep continuously doing it without seeming to learn.
Apart from that particular trait I think Assignon has shown a lot of potential. I'm still not convinced by how he defends back post crosses though.

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Re: Assignon

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:32 pm

He was lucky to stay on the pitch in all truth.

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Re: Assignon

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:34 pm

A definite upgrade and one we need to keep.
Ian Maatsen was not all that defending either.

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Re: Assignon

Post by dougcollins » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:50 pm

Experience. What most of this side are lacking, and what they'll have more of come the end of the season.

Most of the issues mentioned above improve with experience.

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Re: Assignon

Post by bumba » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:22 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:32 pm
He was lucky to stay on the pitch in all truth.
Why's that?

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Re: Assignon

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:27 pm

The incident on the touchline in the second half could easily have been a red.

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Re: Assignon

Post by HahaYeah » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:31 pm

He's very rough but I'm enjoying watching his swashbuckling endeavours.

That Joao feller for Brighton really didn't appreciate the attention he was getting from him.

I hope he stays.

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Re: Assignon

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:37 pm

I've messaged Mr Pace's daughter to see if she can do a social media campaign to try and keep Assignon at Burnley.
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Re: Assignon

Post by bumba » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:39 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:27 pm
The incident on the touchline in the second half could easily have been a red.
VAR looked at it, no contact and the Sheff Utd player got booked, he did nothing wrong and was a good bit of refereeing
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Re: Assignon

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:45 pm

I really like the way he plays and hope we can sign him. His one problem is that he uses his arms too much when confronting an opponent. If he carries on like that he will be seeing many more cards.

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Re: Assignon

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:18 pm

bumba wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:39 pm
VAR looked at it, no contact and the Sheff Utd player got booked, he did nothing wrong and was a good bit of refereeing
you don't NEED to make contact to be sent off, have to say I agree with Mr Castro on this one, very lucky to stay on the pitch.

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Re: Assignon

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:12 pm

bumba wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:39 pm
VAR looked at it, no contact and the Sheff Utd player got booked, he did nothing wrong and was a good bit of refereeing
No contact? I think you need to see it again.

If you're using VAR to support your argument then you haven't seen many games this season.

The Sheffield United player was booked for dissent btw.

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Re: Assignon

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:15 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:18 pm
have to say I agree with Mr Castro on this one,
First time for everything, Viva!

:D
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Re: Assignon

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:22 pm

I think it's time for a rule change: if anyone grabs your shirt you should be allowed to elbow them in the face.

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Re: Assignon

Post by bumba » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:27 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:12 pm
No contact? I think you need to see it again.

If you're using VAR to support your argument then you haven't seen many games this season.

The Sheffield United player was booked for dissent btw.
It wasn't an elbow he brushed him off, the yellow was for holding Assignon back trying to stop a counter attack.
If anything slightly brushed him it was a forearm not an elbow

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Re: Assignon

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:29 pm

bumba wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:27 pm
It wasn't an elbow he brushed him off, the yellow was for holding Assignon back trying to stop a counter attack.
If anything slightly brushed him it was a forearm not an elbow
Where did I say it was an elbow?

First you said there was no contact, then you said it was a forearm, so which is it?

I was right. You definitely need to see it again! :roll:
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Re: Assignon

Post by NewClaret » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:30 pm

Whether he made contact or didn’t he got away with it because he was being pulled back and was brushing him off. For a player that’s been accused of play acting it was great to see him not go down and crack on with the game.

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Re: Assignon

Post by bumba » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:01 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:29 pm
Where did I say it was an elbow?

First you said there was no contact, then you said it was a forearm, so which is it?

I was right. You definitely need to see it again! :roll:
I don't think there was contact but if anything slightly brushed Osborne then it was a forearm but I don't think it did.
If you wasn't suggesting an elbow then why are you saying it was a red?

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Re: Assignon

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:06 pm

bumba wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:01 pm
I don't think there was contact but if anything slightly brushed Osborne then it was a forearm but I don't think it did.
If you wasn't suggesting an elbow then why are you saying it was a red?
As has previously been mentioned, it doesn't have to be an elbow for it to be red.

I think Assignon was lucky.

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Re: Assignon

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:37 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:15 pm
First time for everything, Viva!

:D
I know, I've booked a doctors appointment for a check up :D
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Re: Assignon

Post by colne-claret » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:54 pm

Doubt he stays. Haven’t we already signed a new right back in the lad from PSV?

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Re: Assignon

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:05 pm

I like him, but he is an obvious hothead who appears to be not the brightest in his decision making.

He should be banned for the season now. But that would be harsh. He shouldn’t have gone at Chelsea, has never had a red before, and was provoked at Bramall Lane.

He has decent pedigree, played in Europe for the last 3 seasons on and off. Has been marking players like Mbappe so far this season and managed that without a red. So I put it down to desire to stay with us by staying in this league. He has genuine desire. And I can forgive that. Like I say, I like him.

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Re: Assignon

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:17 pm

I like him too.

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Re: Assignon

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:18 pm

Looks a very good player to me. Think another prem side would be keen to snap him up next year. Very much a modern fullback in that he looks more like a winger who can defend than a true defender.

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Re: Assignon

Post by warksclaret » Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:16 am

Several sources saying Shurandy Sambo . a young Dutch right back is penning a 4 year deal with us. From what I have read he is a highly rated player at PSV Eindhoven who is coming to the end of his contract, and would be a free

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Re: Assignon

Post by jedi_master » Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:22 am

I think he's been mixed and has made some ludicrous errors (West Ham away particularly, but luckily wasn't punished) and shown himself to make silly/needless fouls - HOWEVER - he's really good going forward and has certainly improved week by week. I hadn't realised how young he was and he hasn't really played that much football in his short career so the potential is definitely there.

Assuming we go down I don't see any way we will be spending £10m on him, whether he wanted to come or not.
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Re: Assignon

Post by NewClaret » Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:10 am

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:22 am
I think he's been mixed and has made some ludicrous errors (West Ham away particularly, but luckily wasn't punished) and shown himself to make silly/needless fouls - HOWEVER - he's really good going forward and has certainly improved week by week. I hadn't realised how young he was and he hasn't really played that much football in his short career so the potential is definitely there.

Assuming we go down I don't see any way we will be spending £10m on him, whether he wanted to come or not.
It’s a strange one, isn’t it, because from what I can tell that’s what we’ve agreed to spend on Esteve even if we go down. But that on two players, I agree, seem highly improbable.

Of the two I feel that scenario is preferable to it being the alternative way around, despite having a squad of CB’s more than able of playing in the Championship.

Assignon would improve us and our chances of promotion no end though, in my opinion.

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Re: Assignon

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:50 pm

I’m not sure I agree with all the hyped up comments about Assignon and his ability - and, despite his defensive frailty, I certainly don’t think he’s even in the same postcode as Ian Maatsen.

One half decent performance against bottom of the league who are essentially a decent championship team doesn’t win me over - I need to see much more from him. His play acting and his lack of defensive composure is a worry. I hope it works out but what does €7m buy you these days? Maybe a good championship standard player.

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Re: Assignon

Post by expoultryboy » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:41 pm

Very naive at times , and the "collapse " at West ham was unforgivable.

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Re: Assignon

Post by KRBFC » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:56 pm

He’s a weird one, a proper different kind of fullback, from the sheer brilliance of a nutmeg to the reckless tackle in a matter of seconds. I think the word is an enigma, fun to watch though and I like him.

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Re: Assignon

Post by burnleymik » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:59 pm

Raw with lots of potential. A little bit rash at times, but I like that he is prepared to go toe-to-toe physically. Offers us a lot going forward and ruthlessly exploited the space Sheffield gave him. Seems to want to play for the club, shirt and fans. Would be a good one to keep and give more experience.

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Re: Assignon

Post by burnley007 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:13 pm

I don't see him as much of a gamble, we know his strengths and his many weaknesses.

There is definitely a good player in there, get him signed up!

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Re: Assignon

Post by pushpinpussy » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:25 pm

we have had some good right backs over the last few years. tripps and lowts but this guy is not in the same class. send him back.

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Re: Assignon

Post by beddie » Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:52 am

He’s okay but that’s all. Makes too many mistakes for me.

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Re: Assignon

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:18 am

beddie wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:52 am
He’s okay but that’s all. Makes too many mistakes for me.
When you try to do things you make mistakes and learn from them.
That's what frustrated me about Connor Roberts, he never tried to do anything. Just played it safe back to the keeper or centre half.

We have plenty of safe players in the team.

We need something a little extra.

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Re: Assignon

Post by Bowclaret » Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:31 am

You can see he is going to be class. But he certainly needs another season with us for sure to develop. Great team player and fantastic character

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Re: Assignon

Post by burnleymik » Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:31 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:18 am
When you try to do things you make mistakes and learn from them.
That's what frustrated me about Connor Roberts, he never tried to do anything. Just played it safe back to the keeper or centre half.

We have plenty of safe players in the team.

We need something a little extra.
Absolutely this. He really tries to make things happen and we need that right now.

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Re: Assignon

Post by bfcmik » Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:35 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:06 pm
As has previously been mentioned, it doesn't have to be an elbow for it to be red.

I think Assignon was lucky.
But there does have to be intent to connect with the elbow for it to be a red if there is no contact. If a player only tries to brush off someone holding his shirt AND does not make contact with the elbow or fist/hand then it is not an offence.

Despite what the City/United/Liverpool/Arsenal etc supporting co-commentators on SKY will say when one of the big 6's players feels a contact in the area, contact IS permitted in the Premier League.

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