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Points required for survival

Post by Spijed » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:26 pm

In the last 10 seasons the team finishing 3rd from bottom got the following:

15/16 - 37
14/15 - 35
13/14 - 33
12/13 - 36
11/12 - 36
10/11 - 39 (Blackpool got that many!)
09/10 - 30 (Us)
08/09 - 34
07/08 - 36
06/07 - 38

It looks like a point per game should be enough. Btw, how on earth did Blackpool get that many points?

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:30 pm

Blackpool were an attacking side that will of benefited from the 3 points a win rather than not lose like us.
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Re: Points required for survival

Post by ontario claret » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:43 pm

Points to survive? Is that like oxygen to live?

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Ightenclaret » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:52 pm

ontario claret wrote:Points to survive? Is that like oxygen to live?
No it's the amount of points that need to be accumulated by the end of the season in order to avoid being relegated.

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by ontario claret » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:10 pm

Oh, so it's more of an exact reference. Got it now.

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by ontario claret » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:12 pm

English grammar is often a minefield.

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:13 pm

38?

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by minnieclaret » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:28 pm

38DD for me.
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Re: Points required for survival

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:29 pm

minnieclaret wrote:38DD for me.
Absolute minimum, I'd say :D :D :D

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by ontario claret » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:30 pm

minnie, are you trying to make friends and influence people?

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by minnieclaret » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:35 pm

They need support, like our heroes.

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:43 pm

38 and, it's in the bag !!!

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:44 pm

Sometimes a perky 36 is enough

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by ontario claret » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:56 pm

Love the "perky" part. Up and atom.

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:03 pm

Surely the correct target is points for 4th from bottom..?

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:11 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Surely the correct target is points for 4th from bottom..?
Rick, That's not a target, it's a requirement...

subtle, but definable difference there :D

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:29 am

They just need to aim for 40 points, nothing less.

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Spijed » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:50 am

Rick_Muller wrote:Surely the correct target is points for 4th from bottom..?
No, we just need to get 1 point more than 3rd from bottom. Looking at the total points for the team finishing in 17th is wrong as they might not have needed the points they actually got.

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:53 am

Spijed wrote:No, we just need to get 1 point more than 3rd from bottom. Looking at the total points for the team finishing in 17th is wrong as they might not have needed the points they actually got.
I understand that, trouble is that for me it is aiming to fail not to succeed ;)

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Nonayforever » Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:00 pm

******** to surviving, let's finish mid table !

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:25 pm

12 wins starting Monday night that will give us 40 points which is the usual agreed safe target

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Saxoman » Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:32 pm

Sidney1st wrote:They just need to aim for 40 points, nothing less.
Yea, like our aim is top 6..

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:38 pm

Saxoman wrote:Yea, like our aim is top 6..
Top 6 of league 1?

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by ontario claret » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:10 pm

How's this for a target: win every home game and draw every away game.

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by JohnMac » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:37 pm

Blackpool were unlucky, their policy was to attack teams and they won a few away games of note quite early I think.

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:42 pm

JohnMac wrote:Blackpool were unlucky, their policy was to attack teams and they won a few away games of note quite early I think.
Blackpool's opening away games were amazing

Wigan - won 4-0
Arsenal - lost 6-0
Newcastle - won 2-0
Chelsea - lost 4-0

They then won the next one at Liverpool.

A contrast to the previous season when our first away games were

Stoke - lost 2-0
Chelsea - lost 3-0
Liverpool - lost 4-0
Spurs - lost 5-0

I was really worried given the next away game was at Ewood.

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:31 pm

BBC Sports website users say we'll finish last.

I'm trying to mess the system up a bit.

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But I fear they've closed the voting

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by JohnMac » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:33 pm

"I was really worried given the next away game was at Ewood"

You me and thousands of others.

I can't believe we were actually try to defend Coyle for his tactics away from home, it's only in hindsight we learnt he didn't have any :lol:

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Spijed » Sun May 21, 2017 9:45 pm

Just thought it would be interesting to see how many points were actually required for survival. Getting to 40 points no longer seems a requirement.

Team finishing 17th:
16/17 - 34
15/16 - 37
14/15 - 35
13/14 - 33
12/13 - 36
11/12 - 36
10/11 - 39
09/10 - 30
08/09 - 34
07/08 - 36
06/07 - 38

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by jlup1980 » Mon May 22, 2017 7:44 am

The magical 40 marker guarantee's survival but it's not been needed other than the Blackpool season. I said all year that 36 was the magic number and I wasn't far off. Achieving 40 points is a great effort for us though. Same again next season please!!

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Holtyclaret » Mon May 22, 2017 8:34 am

Team who finished 17th this year was Watford with 40pts. They would have been safe with 35 as 18th and relegated was Hull with 34pts.

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Re: Points required for survival

Post by Spijed » Mon May 22, 2017 8:38 am

Holtyclaret wrote:Team who finished 17th this year was Watford with 40pts. They would have been safe with 35 as 18th and relegated was Hull with 34pts.
That was my mistake. I should have said 18th.

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