Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

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Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by CopacabanaClaret » Tue May 14, 2019 6:47 pm

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top ... ide?se=210" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

15 ahead of the competition.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue May 14, 2019 7:07 pm

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Hibsclaret » Tue May 14, 2019 7:07 pm

Well one of them was actually a goal at Watford...that’s for a start.

Very easy to knock someone because of stats like that...
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue May 14, 2019 7:16 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Well one of them was actually a goal at Watford...that’s for a start.

Very easy to knock someone because of stats like that...
14 ahead then. A massive difference.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by dougcollins » Tue May 14, 2019 7:42 pm

He even managed to beat 103 year old Glen Murray.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Burnley1989 » Tue May 14, 2019 7:50 pm

Toss up between who was more infuriating, Andre Gray or Wood.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by deanothedino » Tue May 14, 2019 7:57 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:Toss up between who was more infuriating, Andre Gray or Wood.
Only Burnley fans could complain so much about two of the best goalscorers we've had in the Premier League.
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue May 14, 2019 8:00 pm

As i said before, maybe we should just be playing balls through to him sooner?
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Tue May 14, 2019 9:02 pm

deanothedino wrote:Only Burnley fans could complain so much about two of the best goalscorers we've had in the Premier League.
i understood Barnes was our best goal scorer in the premier league.

Ignoring that though, isnt it a concern to you? Sunday was Wood at his peak in terms of being off side, other teams must be drilled on the fact he can't play the line. Ignoring the other point that he needs 6 clear cut chances to get score 1.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Funkydrummer » Tue May 14, 2019 9:10 pm

We were only wondering on Sunday what the statistics were for Wood and offsides, and now we know.

i thought they wouldn't be too good, but blimey, that is pretty poor reading imo.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Hibsclaret » Tue May 14, 2019 9:19 pm

Wood’s our best finisher and Barnes is our best overall striker and they complement each other well. The way we play with 2 up top will inevitably lead to more offsides than other sides of similar stature that play one up or the top sides that have more pace.

Luckily for us he has scored the same number of goals as Leroy Sane and Wilfred Zaha so let’s knock him for that. I’d be happy for him to have 100 offsides next season if he continues to score 1 in 5.
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Sarum » Tue May 14, 2019 9:23 pm

Would be interested to know what percentage of Chris Wood's goals were scored from within the 6 yard box. And he's lethal from 2 yards (usually).

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Shore claret » Tue May 14, 2019 9:31 pm

Nice to see our Ashley down as an Austrian

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by deanothedino » Tue May 14, 2019 9:41 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:i understood Barnes was our best goal scorer in the premier league.

Ignoring that though, isnt it a concern to you? Sunday was Wood at his peak in terms of being off side, other teams must be drilled on the fact he can't play the line. Ignoring the other point that he needs 6 clear cut chances to get score 1.
Barnes has played nearly twice as many games in the Premier League than Wood has and over 100 more than Gray had for us.

Goals per game for Burnley in the PL.

Wood - 0.32
Gray - 0.28
Barnes - 0.24

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Tue May 14, 2019 9:42 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Wood’s our best finisher and Barnes is our best overall striker and they complement each other well. The way we play with 2 up top will inevitably lead to more offsides than other sides of similar stature that play one up or the top sides that have more pace.

Luckily for us he has scored the same number of goals as Leroy Sane and Wilfred Zaha so let’s knock him for that. I’d be happy for him to have 100 offsides next season if he continues to score 1 in 5.
Imagine where we would be with a striker hitting 2 in 5.
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by whiffa » Tue May 14, 2019 9:48 pm

Lets be honest, he's offside more than he should be - however as one of his biggest critics earlier in the season I've learnt to appreciate that's part of his game - balls over the top for him to get in behind onto are part of our system. I think he's doing a good job and does have that yard of pace on the likes of Vokes.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Spike » Tue May 14, 2019 10:16 pm

good goal return from Wood this season.

Some of those offsides are when all the team wasn’t at the races

The second half of the season is what we will build on and hopefully less of this scapegoating

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Rileybobs » Tue May 14, 2019 10:25 pm

I really don’t understand the stick that Wood gets. Yes, he’s offside too often, although that can also be blamed on the timing of deliveries to him. He also holds the ball up well and has a very good strike rate at the top level. I’m not sure what some people expect.
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by conyoviejo » Tue May 14, 2019 10:30 pm

He's averaged being offside 1.5 times every game ,some of you want to get a life if that upsets you..

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by bfcmik » Tue May 14, 2019 10:31 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I really don’t understand the stick that Wood gets. Yes, he’s offside too often, although that can also be blamed on the timing of deliveries to him. He also holds the ball up well and has a very good strike rate at the top level. I’m not sure what some people expect.
The trouble is people still think of £15M as being a LOT of money. You get what you pay for but you also get a player who is prepared to follow the team instructions to play just offside behind the defender's shoulder. Barnes does this too but he tends to make his runs across the defenders whereas Wood is often chasing the ball over the top or that is played into the channels where he is trying to get behind the defence making him an easy target for flag happy linesmen

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by whiffa » Tue May 14, 2019 10:39 pm

I have more of an issue with his first touch, than his offsides to be honest.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Funkydrummer » Tue May 14, 2019 11:16 pm

whiffa wrote:I have more of an issue with his first touch, than his offsides to be honest.
What first touch is that then ? :D
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by scouseclaret » Tue May 14, 2019 11:21 pm

I know his scoring record is good but I still find Wood a difficult footballer to like.
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Hibsclaret » Tue May 14, 2019 11:25 pm

whiffa wrote:I have more of an issue with his first touch, than his offsides to be honest.
Is there any stats for that so we can suggest a trophy for it?

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by CopacabanaClaret » Tue May 14, 2019 11:31 pm

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top ... tt_hd_goal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A more positive Chris Wood stat for everyone. Joint top for headed goals.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by tarkys_ears » Wed May 15, 2019 12:20 am

Hibsclaret wrote:Well one of them was actually a goal at Watford...that’s for a start.

Very easy to knock someone because of stats like that...
Yeah. For a team as **** as us getting the ball forward, you shouldn't be wasting it offside.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by boatshed bill » Wed May 15, 2019 12:30 am

Irrelevant stat unless the number of minutes on the pitch is factored in.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed May 15, 2019 3:55 am

something he really needs to get better at

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Post by deanothedino » Wed May 15, 2019 5:37 am

tarkys_ears wrote:Yeah. For a team as **** as us getting the ball forward, you shouldn't be wasting it offside.
Ever considered that it might be because we’re so bad at getting the ball forward that he is caught offside so often?

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed May 15, 2019 6:07 am

Good to see some of our balloons have something else to bitch about
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by scouseclaret » Wed May 15, 2019 8:44 am

deanothedino wrote:Ever considered that it might be because we’re so bad at getting the ball forward that he is caught offside so often?
I suspect it’s more down to his own lack of mobility.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by deanothedino » Wed May 15, 2019 9:00 am

scouseclaret wrote:I suspect it’s more down to his own lack of mobility.
Well, I've seen him caught offside several times where the ball should have been played earlier... Guess he's doing well to be bagging 1 in 3 in the PL for such an immobile guy.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Longside4evr » Wed May 15, 2019 9:25 am

Hes caught off side to many times off side he should be learning how to run the line by now
He gets bullied far to much by defenders for a big lad
His pace is mediocre and looks like he gives up the ghost to chase things down cos he can't
Needs 5 or 6 chances to put a ball away even one on ones is a lottery
A premier league player as to put 80 % of one on ones away
Not as bad as Benteke's ratio but Gray would have put most his misses in the onion bag
Yes hes got a good return that ypu can't deny but the work that others do like Barnes Westwood McNeil Taylor I should think so they are quality and serve him well
Jury will be out next season if hes our main striker
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Dougall » Wed May 15, 2019 9:36 am

15 more offsides over a 38 game season than the chasing pack.
It's truly staggering the lengths some people will go to just to have ANOTHER go at their favourite scapegoat.
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Post by Il Duce » Wed May 15, 2019 9:37 am

Not really that surprised. Gray was offside all of the time too - both players try to make runs in behind. Our build up play is often either quite laboured and delayed or it’s rushed. Not saying that Wood isn’t guilty of being caught too often, but like many others have stated he also falls victim to poor build up play.

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Post by WestMidsClaret » Wed May 15, 2019 9:43 am

He always looks like he doesnt want to be playing. Might explain why hes offside a lot. :lol:

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by FactualFrank » Wed May 15, 2019 9:52 am

3 days from the season ending and we've already managed to bash 2 of our forwards.

I expect the messageboard will have gone through the entire team by August.
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed May 15, 2019 9:56 am

Needs 5 or 6 chances to put a ball away even one on ones is a lottery

Having scored 10 in the league this season, we must create loads of chances every game if he has missed 50 or 60 chances by himself.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Longside4evr » Wed May 15, 2019 10:02 am

Its not a case of going through the entirety of our team has there as been some excellent performance from some of our individual players
And many positives to take out of a dodgy season
Supporters are just pointing out our weaker points you after address them if you need to move forward
That was a big part why this season panned out like it did
We are one of the best sticking crowd in the country
And Dyche as already said as much we back the weak and praise the good
But if their is a few issues that need resolving then talk thats why a lot of relationships breakdown its an art you know

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Long Time Lurker » Wed May 15, 2019 11:31 am

I choose to see that stat as a huge positive. It highlights a development goal that can be met and if Chris does that he will improve on what is already a very good return.

The golden flag comment was funny though :lol:

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by edison » Wed May 15, 2019 11:37 am

Filippo Inzaghi used to get caught offside loads of times every match I ever saw him in - but then would typically score the few times he was played on. If we win 1-0 with a Wood goal but he is offside 4 times in the same match, does it matter?
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Post by Longside4evr » Wed May 15, 2019 11:47 am

It doesn't matter and i get what your saying but 1-0 is as unsafe as out in this league
We are fragile as it is
How many goals did we concede late in games
When we had done all the hard work for 90% of the game only for it to be undone
We as a team need to be put them soft misses away as there's to many other soft areas of our small side and thats not having a go either we are what we are
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 15, 2019 11:48 am

deanothedino wrote:Only Burnley fans could complain so much about two of the best goalscorers we've had in the Premier League.
Absolutely spot on - it really is getting tiresome
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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Longside4evr » Wed May 15, 2019 11:53 am

Thing is Tony i dont think the sensible ones are its just venting an opinion on the weak side of a players game it was Cork at the beginning of the week and some points are right some are wrong
Derrick Scott layed temperament to that

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by IanMcL » Wed May 15, 2019 1:20 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Well one of them was actually a goal at Watford...that’s for a start.

Very easy to knock someone because of stats like that...
Just the other 52 then!

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed May 15, 2019 2:56 pm

IanMcL wrote:Just the other 52 then!
So you can confirm the other 52 were actually offside rather than given as offside? The only one I have highlighted was clearly wrong because it was in injury time and affected the result.

Given the standard of assistant decisions I suspect at least another 10% or more were incorrect decisions.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Test User » Wed May 15, 2019 3:01 pm

Dyche need to be more clear with his instructions next season and tell Chris that for the purposes of his instruction to play on the shoulder of the last defender, the goalkeeper doesn't count as a defender.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by IanMcL » Wed May 15, 2019 5:28 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:So you can confirm the other 52 were actually offside rather than given as offside? The only one I have highlighted was clearly wrong because it was in injury time and affected the result.

Given the standard of assistant decisions I suspect at least another 10% or more were incorrect decisions.
Just the 46/7 then!

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by IanMcL » Wed May 15, 2019 5:35 pm

By the way, I have no issue with Chris Wood.

The coaches should be able help with the offside.

If any offside is a cause for grief, it is where the striker stands offside, to put off defenders, remains offside and then causes the move to end, when they move for the ball.

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Re: Chris Wood should get a trophy for this.

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Wed May 15, 2019 5:49 pm

Honestly do not under the stick he gets. He’s certainly not immobile, and certainly not weak, he’s actually a very well rounded physical striker. He’s even been described as a beast by some opposition fans. He’s scored at a better rate than any of our other premier league strikers, and he definitely doesn’t score 1 in 6, it’s a lot higher than that - he’s a good finisher, the best we’ve had in the prem other than ings. If he gets a full season in next year, he could get 15 goals, and that would really make him valuable. He’s probably already worth £20 million+

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