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If you could put an all-time World XI of the " Greats " who played in the Lancashire League at some point, you'd have some team ... Alan Border, Clive Lloyd, Viv Richards, Learie Constantine, Steve Waugh, Joel Garner, Michael Holding, Andy Roberts, DK Lillee, Sydney Barnes, Jimmy Anderson, Allan Donald and Shane Warne for starters ...
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Graham KnowlesClarets4me wrote:If you could put an all-time World XI of the " Greats " who played in the Lancashire League at some point, you'd have some team ... Alan Border, Clive Lloyd, Viv Richards, Learie Constantine, Steve Waugh, Joel Garner, Michael Holding, Andy Roberts, DK Lillee, Sydney Barnes, Jimmy Anderson, Allan Donald and Shane Warne for starters ...
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Some real legends there. Obviously not in same class Mike Wakinson was playing at Burnley after a game a few years back smashing the ball all over and hitting cars. Would have loved to have seen some of those greats. Cricket has changed and they all get central contracts I think
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Michael Clarke,Basil Butcher,Seymour Nurse, Bobby Simpson,Everton Weeks,Clyde Walcott,Vinoo Mankad, Wes Hall,Charlie Griffith,Roy Gilchrist and Cec Pepper to name a few from the 50/60’s
Lance Gibbs and many more greats
Lance Gibbs and many more greats
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Kapil Dev
Jason Gillespie, though didn’t he get injured early in the season?
Jason Gillespie, though didn’t he get injured early in the season?
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Lance Gibbs is Clive Lloyds cousin and reportedly gave him his bats from his kit contract as he very rarely used them.
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Collis King,Johnnie Wardle,Steve Waugh,Neil Hawke .
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Bob HolmesSteve-Harpers-perm wrote:Keith Roscoe.
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Sobers and Tyson?
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Sobers played in the Central Lancs League (for Middleton, I think)
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collis king larry gomes steve Waugh joe scuderi learie Constantine roger harper keith arthurton just a few that graced the league in its heyday at nelson.
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Not forgetting Graham Roope (RIP)
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My dad always told me that Bill Alley was as good a pro as Colne ever had but as we moved to Kent over 50 years ago when I was 6 I can’t really add anything else to the thread.
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Sobers played for Radcliffe in the CLL.
Franklyn Stephenson another for the list, top pro. One of the best slower balls going.
Franklyn Stephenson another for the list, top pro. One of the best slower balls going.
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According to my grandad who’s old enough to remember Amar Singh was a tremendous pro for Colne in the 30s at about the same time Constantine was playing for Nelson.
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Sobers played once as sub-pro for Colne. Geoff Schofield became Mr. Unpopular by running him out! (So they tell me.) Sobers did take 5 wickets cheaply, though.TheFamilyCat wrote:Sobers played in the Central Lancs League (for Middleton, I think)
Fred Trueman sub-pro'd for Colne once as well. But Amar Singh and Bill Alley are probably the two greatest. Alan Wharton was the only amateur Colne player who went on to play for England.
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I can remember a few mainly in the late forties and early fifties, namely Cec Pepper Manny Martindale, Everton Weeks Clyde Walcott Vincent Hazare Bill Alley Bruce Dooland, Ray Lindwall.
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Des Sparks (South Africa), Lowerhouse pro '69-'71.
He worked at Main Gas Padiham during his time here. Is Des still with us?
He worked at Main Gas Padiham during his time here. Is Des still with us?
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Must get in for batting and bowling roger harper
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From my time watching:
Conrad Hunte
Basil Butcher
Viv Richards
Bobby Simpson
Neil Hawke
Eddie Barlow
Wes Hall
Dennis Lillee
Shane Warne
Charlie Griffith
Lance Gibbs
I don't know who but I'm sure one of them could be WK.
Conrad Hunte
Basil Butcher
Viv Richards
Bobby Simpson
Neil Hawke
Eddie Barlow
Wes Hall
Dennis Lillee
Shane Warne
Charlie Griffith
Lance Gibbs
I don't know who but I'm sure one of them could be WK.
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Jeeeez that’s a good memory... hope you’re doing well at your ripe old agelancastrian wrote:I can remember a few mainly in the late forties and early fifties, namely Cec Pepper Manny Martindale, Everton Weeks Clyde Walcott Vincent Hazare Bill Alley Bruce Dooland, Ray Lindwall.
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My uncle has been watching Bacup for many, many years and still to this day, he doesn’t tire of talking about Everton Weekes. He would almost certainly be his first choice on such a list.
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From the all-time list, and no duplication ....alf_resco wrote:From my time watching:
Conrad Hunte
Basil Butcher
Viv Richards
Bobby Simpson
Neil Hawke
Eddie Barlow
Wes Hall
Dennis Lillee
Shane Warne
Charlie Griffith
Lance Gibbs
I don't know who but I'm sure one of them could be WK.
Allan Border
Colin Milburn
Michael Clarke
Clive Lloyd
Steve Waugh
Learie Constantine
Roger Harper
Michael Holding
Allan Donald
Sydney Barnes
James Anderson
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I'm surprised Border isn't at the top of most people's lists!
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He was East Lancs Professional in 1978, averaged over 54 with the bat , 3 hundreds and 6 fifties and took 55 wickets ...Dark Cloud wrote:Did Allan Border not pro in the Lancs?
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Notice my crafty edit, when I spotted his name on above list!!!Clarets4me wrote:He was East Lancs Professional in 1978, averaged over 54 with the bat , 3 hundreds and 6 fifties and took 55 wickets ...
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About as crafty as mine, when I noticed that I'd included Shane Warne & subbed him quickly with Jimmy Anderson !Dark Cloud wrote:Notice my crafty edit, when I spotted his name on above list!!!
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Sobers did indeed play for Radcliffe and also Littleborough in the Central Lancs League.NL Claret wrote:Sobers played for Radcliffe in the CLL.
Franklyn Stephenson another for the list, top pro. One of the best slower balls going.
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Yeah, but Warne did pro for Rammy? and he's miles better than that **** Anderson!!! (Up the 'Ouse!! )Clarets4me wrote:About as crafty as mine, when I noticed that I'd included Shane Warne & subbed him quickly with Jimmy Anderson !
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Accy it was.Dark Cloud wrote:Yeah, but Warne did pro for Rammy? and he's miles better than that **** Anderson!!! (Up the 'Ouse!! )
Certainly looks like a list of top players who played in the Lancs league rather than the best pro's the Lancs league ever had.
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That's a very important distinction to make, some of the greats did not make great " Professionals " in the League, due to attitude, the stage they were at in their career etc ...Quickenthetempo wrote:Accy it was ..... certainly looks like a list of top players who played in the Lancs league rather than the best pro's the Lancs league ever had.
I've heard of a certain " Pro " from the Indian sub-continent who did nothing but play on match days and then sit in his accomodation and watch video's all day, whereas I can imagine certain Australian's from all era's having local fathers keeping a very close eye on their daughters ....
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Certainly several players especially from Australia came into the league at 18 or 19 long before they developed into world class stars (Shane Warne and Ian Chappell for example} however Wes Hall and Charlie Griffith have to be included in a Word Eleven imo
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They look like Shane WarneQuickenthetempo wrote:Accy it was.
Certainly looks like a list of top players who played in the Lancs league rather than the best pro's the Lancs league ever had.
They look like Shane Warne
Half the kids in Accy
They look like Shane Warne
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Sobers once played for Todmorden in the Worsley Cup and Eli played against him for Bacup. Eli declared it a draw because he didn't get Sobers out and Sobers didn't get him out although he admitted Bacup manufactured a run out for the last wicket to avoid it.dsr wrote:Sobers played once as sub-pro for Colne. Geoff Schofield became Mr. Unpopular by running him out! (So they tell me.) Sobers did take 5 wickets cheaply, though.
Fred Trueman sub-pro'd for Colne once as well. But Amar Singh and Bill Alley are probably the two greatest. Alan Wharton was the only amateur Colne player who went on to play for England.
Scorecard: http://lancashireleague.com/Scorecards/27/27524.html
Trueman's game for Colne was against Burnley because my dad used to tell me about it. Trueman had three early wickets but then got hammered with former Claret Peter Kippax doing the damage
Scorecard: http://lancashireleague.com/Scorecards/154/154152.html
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Warne played for Accrington. I don't think he did enough that season to suggest just how good he was going to be. Warne and Anderson became the finest bowlers of their kind that I've ever seen.Dark Cloud wrote:Yeah, but Warne did pro for Rammy? and he's miles better than that **** Anderson!!! (Up the 'Ouse!! )
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You have to keep taking the pills. During the period I mentioned each club had a decent professiinal.Burnley1989 wrote:Jeeeez that’s a good memory... hope you’re doing well at your ripe old age
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Collie Smith...tragically killed in a car accident.
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Everton Weekes was before my time but my dad said he was the finest batsman he ever saw play in the league.Cheshireclaret wrote:My uncle has been watching Bacup for many, many years and still to this day, he doesn’t tire of talking about Everton Weekes. He would almost certainly be his first choice on such a list.
This was his batting record in the league, runs and average. They are absolutely astonishing.
1949: 1,470 runs at 70.0
1951: 1,518 runs at 89.3
1952: 1,292 runs at 80.7
1953: 1,322 runs at 94.4
1954: 1,266 runs at 158.2
1956: 1,168 runs at 97.3
1958: 1,033 runs at 93.9
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ClaretTony wrote:Everton Weekes was before my time but my dad said he was the finest batsman he ever saw play in the league.
This was his batting record in the league, runs and average. They are absolutely astonishing.
1949: 1,470 runs at 70.0
1951: 1,518 runs at 89.3
1952: 1,292 runs at 80.7
1953: 1,322 runs at 94.4
1954: 1,266 runs at 158.2
1956: 1,168 runs at 97.3
1958: 1,033 runs at 93.9
Who is the best you've seen Tony?
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So difficult to say really given the quality back in the 60s when I first went. In my early days we had the likes of Basil Butcher, Ian Chappell, Eddie Barlow, Conrad Hunte, Seymour Nurse. They are just a few names off the top of my head. Nurse passed away a couple of weeks ago.Local cricketer wrote:Who is the best you've seen Tony?
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That is truly astounding. What a player he was.ClaretTony wrote:Everton Weekes was before my time but my dad said he was the finest batsman he ever saw play in the league.
This was his batting record in the league, runs and average. They are absolutely astonishing.
1949: 1,470 runs at 70.0
1951: 1,518 runs at 89.3
1952: 1,292 runs at 80.7
1953: 1,322 runs at 94.4
1954: 1,266 runs at 158.2
1956: 1,168 runs at 97.3
1958: 1,033 runs at 93.9
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It's incredible isn't it Cheshireclaret? And at a time where you could only hit a six on selected grounds. My dad said it made no difference because he rarely lifted the ball. I've just googled it and he had a test average of 58.61. Frank Worrell was the only one of the three Ws I saw play.Cheshireclaret wrote:That is truly astounding. What a player he was.
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Didn't Eli claim a catch off Sobers, as he had clattered a six against the scoreboard and Eli caught the ball one handed as it bounced off?ClaretTony wrote:Sobers once played for Todmorden in the Worsley Cup and Eli played against him for Bacup. Eli declared it a draw because he didn't get Sobers out and Sobers didn't get him out although he admitted Bacup manufactured a run out for the last wicket to avoid it.
Scorecard: http://lancashireleague.com/Scorecards/27/27524.html
Trueman's game for Colne was against Burnley because my dad used to tell me about it. Trueman had three early wickets but then got hammered with former Claret Peter Kippax doing the damage
Scorecard: http://lancashireleague.com/Scorecards/154/154152.html
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He never told me that one but his Sobers story was a part of his after dinner speech as was Accrington tea ladies doing their best to tip the balance by giving the opposition extra large pieces of slab cake to slow them down. Eli told me it knocked 5 mph of his speed and two overs off his opening spell.Herts Clarets wrote:Didn't Eli claim a catch off Sobers, as he had clattered a six against the scoreboard and Eli caught the ball one handed as it bounced off?
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