Global cooling
Global cooling
Seems to be occurring in the town of Burnley, Lancashire, England.
Can some senior meteorological scientists please investigate asap before it's too late?
Can some senior meteorological scientists please investigate asap before it's too late?
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Re: Global cooling
Aka Monsoon June.
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We turned the central heating off at Easter -put it back on for June!
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Hi Mala591, it's probably climate change. I'm not sure if it's arrived faster than we were expecting or we were always going to see these "wilder" variations in the normal climate.
I saw something from BP yesterday - yes, BP recognise that we need to do something to manage the impacts of climate change. They'd looked at world energy demand in 2018 and compared it with predicted energy demand. There was a big difference on the original model. When they looked deeper they identified that one of the biggest factors in the growth of energy demand was that, in the USA there were more days when the weather was hotter than "normal" AND more days when the weather was colder than normal. On hot days, a/c is used to cool down, on cold days heating is used to warm up. Previous periods, if there'd been hot days there were fewer cold days and if there'd been more cold days there were fewer hot days. USA is big country, data is easily available - and most of the population can afford both cooling and heating - so, these things show up in the word energy demand.
Yes, i think climate change means more hot days and more cold days - and then some of this "monsoon June" that we are experiencing.
Meanwhile, my water supply - and a large part of south west London - has been off since early this morning and rumour has it that it may not be back until Friday. Thames Water is staring to distribute bottled water - most of the local stores have run out, and I'm sure my local convenience store has added £1 to his bottled water prices. (Beer may be cheaper. I recall beer shampoos were popular at one time - but I think you still needed a rinse in clen water to finish).
I saw something from BP yesterday - yes, BP recognise that we need to do something to manage the impacts of climate change. They'd looked at world energy demand in 2018 and compared it with predicted energy demand. There was a big difference on the original model. When they looked deeper they identified that one of the biggest factors in the growth of energy demand was that, in the USA there were more days when the weather was hotter than "normal" AND more days when the weather was colder than normal. On hot days, a/c is used to cool down, on cold days heating is used to warm up. Previous periods, if there'd been hot days there were fewer cold days and if there'd been more cold days there were fewer hot days. USA is big country, data is easily available - and most of the population can afford both cooling and heating - so, these things show up in the word energy demand.
Yes, i think climate change means more hot days and more cold days - and then some of this "monsoon June" that we are experiencing.
Meanwhile, my water supply - and a large part of south west London - has been off since early this morning and rumour has it that it may not be back until Friday. Thames Water is staring to distribute bottled water - most of the local stores have run out, and I'm sure my local convenience store has added £1 to his bottled water prices. (Beer may be cheaper. I recall beer shampoos were popular at one time - but I think you still needed a rinse in clen water to finish).
Re: Global cooling
Some you want me to explain the difference between climate and weather?Mala591 wrote:Seems to be occurring in the town of Burnley, Lancashire, England.
Can some senior meteorological scientists please investigate asap before it's too late?
Re: Global cooling
This isn't a variation in normal climate. This is normal June weather. Weather has a very wide range of what is "normal" - "normal" being an entirely different word from "average".
Wet, cool Junes are normal; so are warm, dry ones.
Wet, cool Junes are normal; so are warm, dry ones.
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Re: Global cooling
Can't beat a wet cool June
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I haven’t even had chance to walk round town with me top off yet.
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I apologise to everyone - I swapped my winter 10.5 tog off the bed to the 4.5 tog summer duvet last week - It has been wet and cool since then.
Down here in Solihull we have had a very dry year to date with less than 2/3rds the average for Jan-May. I am a believer in long-term averages being about right, some will be wetter, some will be drier and some will be just right so the rain was bound to come. We have already had a month and a half's rain this month with more forecast so I'm glad I'm getting away for a holiday next week
Down here in Solihull we have had a very dry year to date with less than 2/3rds the average for Jan-May. I am a believer in long-term averages being about right, some will be wetter, some will be drier and some will be just right so the rain was bound to come. We have already had a month and a half's rain this month with more forecast so I'm glad I'm getting away for a holiday next week
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What seems to have changed is the way we get rain. It comes more now in deluges then steady rain, which means the infrastructure - downpipes, storm water drains etc. - are less able to cope.
It could be worse:
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It could be worse:
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This dude prefers April,claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Can't beat a wet cool June
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If this carries on it will be called flaming June for a completely different reason.
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April looks like she will be "Busting out all over"4:20 wrote:This dude prefers April,
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April showers forecastBosscat wrote:April looks like she will be "Busting out all over"
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Is she a squirter?
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Last summer we were told to get used to these lengthy spells of hot weather. What a load of ********.
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At the risk of being accused of virtue-signalling by Damo, oh no!!!! The temperature of the one specific place where i live is below the average temperature for that one specific place where i live for this time of year. This must mean the entire planet is cooling.
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At the risk of being accused of virtue-signalling by Damo, oh dear god!!!! 7 hours ago the sun was high in the sky. Now it's being swallowed by the horizon. THE SUN IS FALLING AND IT'S GETTING COLDER. WE'RE ALL GOING TO FREEZE!!!!!111
This thread is now about me.
This thread is now about me.
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We are north of the jet stream in the midst of intense low pressure... that good enough?
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Do other countries talk about the weather as much as us? We are bloody obsessed!
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What are the reasons being given for the water being off? I guess instead of hitting the problem head on and preventing it before it happes they are going to throw plastic pollution at the problem? I hope that the areas hit have sufficient and effective recycling plants or else it is just adding to the problem....Paul Waine wrote:
Meanwhile, my water supply - and a large part of south west London - has been off since early this morning and rumour has it that it may not be back until Friday. Thames Water is staring to distribute bottled water - most of the local stores have run out, and I'm sure my local convenience store has added £1 to his bottled water prices. (Beer may be cheaper. I recall beer shampoos were popular at one time - but I think you still needed a rinse in clen water to finish).
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Big explanation about global warming but please tell us why you have no mains water- half a storyPaul Waine wrote:Hi Mala591, it's probably climate change. I'm not sure if it's arrived faster than we were expecting or we were always going to see these "wilder" variations in the normal climate.
I saw something from BP yesterday - yes, BP recognise that we need to do something to manage the impacts of climate change. They'd looked at world energy demand in 2018 and compared it with predicted energy demand. There was a big difference on the original model. When they looked deeper they identified that one of the biggest factors in the growth of energy demand was that, in the USA there were more days when the weather was hotter than "normal" AND more days when the weather was colder than normal. On hot days, a/c is used to cool down, on cold days heating is used to warm up. Previous periods, if there'd been hot days there were fewer cold days and if there'd been more cold days there were fewer hot days. USA is big country, data is easily available - and most of the population can afford both cooling and heating - so, these things show up in the word energy demand.
Yes, i think climate change means more hot days and more cold days - and then some of this "monsoon June" that we are experiencing.
Meanwhile, my water supply - and a large part of south west London - has been off since early this morning and rumour has it that it may not be back until Friday. Thames Water is staring to distribute bottled water - most of the local stores have run out, and I'm sure my local convenience store has added £1 to his bottled water prices. (Beer may be cheaper. I recall beer shampoos were popular at one time - but I think you still needed a rinse in clen water to finish).
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Burst pipe in a water treatment works.Spike wrote:Big explanation about global warming but please tell us why you have no mains water- half a story
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Hi Spike, burst water main/failed pump or whatever it was, was extensively covered on BBC News on Wed. Made the front page of BBC New website website, though this may be just because I live here - or maybe it was just because it happened "in London."Spike wrote:Big explanation about global warming but please tell us why you have no mains water- half a story
I'll defer to others whether 100,000 households (or whatever the BBC reported) would have been near the top of the news if the 100,000 had been somewhere in North East Lancs.
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United Utilities report N/W Reservoir water storage is at 81.4% capacity as at the end of week 23 ( last Sunday ), the historical average for this week is 85.3%, so the situation is boringly average for us here in the North West ....
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Probably not, but then our weather is among the most changeable on the planet.Falcon wrote:Do other countries talk about the weather as much as us? We are bloody obsessed!
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Anyone remember Derbyshire v Lancs in Buxton in June 1975 yes June -no play due to snow.dsr wrote:This isn't a variation in normal climate. This is normal June weather. Weather has a very wide range of what is "normal" - "normal" being an entirely different word from "average".
Wet, cool Junes are normal; so are warm, dry ones.
We were on hols in Skegness in a caravan with two boys 2 and 10 months-woke up in the morning freezing then heard that the previous day Derbyshire Lancs no play because of snow. Gawd it was a bad few days
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The cool bit leans towards necrophilia. I will assume we meant trendy.claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Can't beat a wet cool June
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Trendy where did that go?
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Oh I dont know about that. Try the Tropics.Imploding Turtle wrote:Probably not, but then our weather is among the most changeable on the planet.
Its an old saying among us travellers. We have rge a good climate but bad weather.
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Imploding Turtle wrote:At the risk of being accused of virtue-signalling by Damo, oh no!!!!
I think it's probably time you saw a child psychologist.
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And i think it's time you raided your parents medicine cabinet and started experimenting.Bin Ont Turf wrote:I think it's probably time you saw a child psychologist.
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I once knew Monsoon Mary,RingoMcCartney wrote:Aka Monsoon June.
She was hot, wet and sticky. She came once a year!
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And never because of you.Jel wrote:I once knew Monsoon Mary,
She was hot, wet and sticky. She came once a year!
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True! I stayed well clearImploding Turtle wrote:And never because of you.
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Labour government?mdd2 wrote:Anyone remember Derbyshire v Lancs in Buxton in June 1975 yes June -no play due to snow.
We were on hols in Skegness in a caravan with two boys 2 and 10 months-woke up in the morning freezing then heard that the previous day Derbyshire Lancs no play because of snow. Gawd it was a bad few days