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box_of_frogs
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by box_of_frogs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:33 pm
MACCA wrote:Oh dear.
0 from 4 looks likely now.
Yup.
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by expoultryboy » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:33 pm
I wish that female commentator would shut up
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by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:34 pm
Clearly second favourites now. Think this will be very difficult to win now.
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box_of_frogs
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by box_of_frogs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:34 pm
expoultryboy wrote:I wish that female commentator would shut up
Agreed!
At least we have some power players still to come. All not lost yet.
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by claretburns » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:34 pm
Game over now I think, New Zealand bowlers have been superb.
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by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:35 pm
CT
Win Predictor says 60% England 40% NZ
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by MACCA » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:36 pm
Bairstow nearly plays on a couple of times an innings to be fair, hes got lucky twice this innings a lone.
We are too impatient when chasing it seems
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by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:36 pm
Difficult to get momentum and they batted at just over four per over all the way through. We are fast approaching six per over.
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by Steve1956 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:36 pm
Jos will come in and blast us to victory.
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by BigChaCha » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm
Only in England would we produce a pitch that completely suits the opposition style of play perfectly!
And this is not hindsight, I was saying this as soon as I saw it.
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by Mondsley » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm
Tough but still winnable. I have turned the sound down as Ganguly is doing my head in!!!
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by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm
Bairstow got away with 2 inside edges on to stumps against India and also 1 against NZ before dragging on.
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by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm
kentonclaret wrote:CT
Win Predictor says 60% England 40% NZ
Shows how much a computer knows. Would you say it’s 60% England?
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by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm
Absolute top notch bowling. Bairstow was unlucky there because at least he was keeping the scoreboard ticking whilst adapting his normal game to the great bowling. Root lost the plot.
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by Herts Clarets » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm
Bloody Yorkshiremen giving their wickets away....
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by Tall Paul » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm
I'd still take England to win at evens
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by CleggHall » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:39 pm
Root put England in trouble, 7 runs off 30 balls is appalling.
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by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:39 pm
Could be Buttlers day today I hope
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by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:40 pm
Tall Paul wrote:I'd still take England to win at evens
I’m not sure getting 167 from 174 balls is very likely on this wicket.
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by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:42 pm
My post of 25 June, when we were playing the Aussies, could well come back to haunt me ---I sincerely hope not!!
"It doesn't matter which sport ---this is another World Cup that England are not going to win."
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by MACCA » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:42 pm
BigChaCha wrote:Only in England would we produce a pitch that completely suits the opposition style of play perfectly!
And this is not hindsight, I was saying this as soon as I saw it.
Why they keep playing these crucial games at Lords I'll never know.
It levels the playing field up too much for the opposition in terms of wicket and crowd. It's hardy home advantage.
Our win rate is also poor here.
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by MDWat » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:43 pm
We bat deeper than them and bigger than them. I’m still confident.
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by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:44 pm
It’s very much 50/50
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by box_of_frogs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:45 pm
MACCA wrote:Why they keep playing these crucial games at Lords I never know.
It levels the playing field up for the opposition in terms of wicket and crowd.
A win rate is also poor here.
Spot on! We should be at Edgbaston.
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by joey13 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:46 pm
England still just favourites with bookies
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by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:46 pm
You can’t expect to win a World Cup final easily. Will have to do it the hard way.
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by Steve1956 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:48 pm
Keep the faith boys we will win this.!
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by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:49 pm
CT
Didn't say I agreed with it I was just posting what the computer indicated.
As for the pitch I have watched most games and, shall we say, they have at least been consistent in getting slower as the game goes on. Hardly any of the pitches have been up to standard which is why there have been low scores and very few teams chasing scores down.
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by Goalposts » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:50 pm
BigChaCha wrote:Only in England would we produce a pitch that completely suits the opposition style of play perfectly!
And this is not hindsight, I was saying this as soon as I saw it.
Its not the pitch setup .its lords we have the best batting line up in the world but play the final on the all time leveller square which is lords
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by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:50 pm
MACCA wrote:Why they keep playing these crucial games at Lords I'll never know.
I can’t imagine they’d ever play it anywhere else when it’s being held here. It’s considered the head quarters of the game worldwide.
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by MACCA » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:50 pm
Start the car Smith
Morgan flops... again
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by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:51 pm
Four down - Morgan gone
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by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:51 pm
Great catch. Not 50/50 now
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by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm
Great catch in the circumstances. England under pressure again ---looks like the same old story ----and I am the eternal optimist!
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by theroyaldyche » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm
Nz to win this comfortably
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by Bosscat » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm
They say catches win matches and that fellers was a helluva catch
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by Goalposts » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm
Win rate at lords is less than 45%
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by joey13 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm
What happened to fearless cricket?
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by Vino blanco » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm
I've said it many times throughput the tournament, we don't handle the pressure.
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by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:53 pm
This is muck or nettles now as my old man used to say
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by Murger » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:53 pm
Bottle jobs.
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by Longside4evr » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:53 pm
I feel sick we just haven't been at the races
N/Z have played brilliant no excuses we have to really dig in now
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by Buxtonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:54 pm
Not looking good, is it?
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by Goalposts » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:57 pm
England play well when the ball comes on. The ball is holding up and hard to get away..its a nurdle the ball around for singles pitch...we dont play like that
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by MACCA » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:57 pm
Not been great at chasing anyway, and under this pressure with this scoreboard, I cant see us pulling it round.
Stokes is the only one in any sort of form.
Butler hasn't had a knock yet, and you can only really ask for 50 from our last 4 ( if overs dont run out )
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by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:00 pm
I think that win predictor must be a big England fan, it still only has NZ at 51%.
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by CaptainKirk » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:02 pm
Heard we were good st cricket and it’s on tv so thought I would tune in.
My god, we are as bad at this as we are at football and rugby etc!
And whose idea is the bloody music!!!!
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by Billy Balfour » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:04 pm
This is going from us. I agree on the music - it's trash.
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by NL Claret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:04 pm
ClaretTony wrote:I think that win predictor must be a big England fan, it still only has NZ at 51%.
The bookies disagree. 8/13 NZ 13/10 England
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by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:05 pm
This really is the key wicket. If these are still in by the 35th we have a chance.