England v New Zealand

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:33 pm

MACCA wrote:Oh dear.

0 from 4 looks likely now.

Yup.

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:33 pm

I wish that female commentator would shut up

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:34 pm

Clearly second favourites now. Think this will be very difficult to win now.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:34 pm

expoultryboy wrote:I wish that female commentator would shut up

Agreed!

At least we have some power players still to come. All not lost yet.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:34 pm

Game over now I think, New Zealand bowlers have been superb.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:35 pm

CT

Win Predictor says 60% England 40% NZ

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:36 pm

Bairstow nearly plays on a couple of times an innings to be fair, hes got lucky twice this innings a lone.

We are too impatient when chasing it seems

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:36 pm

Difficult to get momentum and they batted at just over four per over all the way through. We are fast approaching six per over.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:36 pm

Jos will come in and blast us to victory.

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm

Only in England would we produce a pitch that completely suits the opposition style of play perfectly!

And this is not hindsight, I was saying this as soon as I saw it.

Mondsley · Post by **Mondsley** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm

Tough but still winnable. I have turned the sound down as Ganguly is doing my head in!!!

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm

Bairstow got away with 2 inside edges on to stumps against India and also 1 against NZ before dragging on.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm

kentonclaret wrote:CT

Win Predictor says 60% England 40% NZ

Shows how much a computer knows. Would you say it’s 60% England?

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm

Absolute top notch bowling. Bairstow was unlucky there because at least he was keeping the scoreboard ticking whilst adapting his normal game to the great bowling. Root lost the plot.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm

Bloody Yorkshiremen giving their wickets away....

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:37 pm

I'd still take England to win at evens

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:39 pm

Root put England in trouble, 7 runs off 30 balls is appalling.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:39 pm

Could be Buttlers day today I hope

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:40 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I'd still take England to win at evens

I’m not sure getting 167 from 174 balls is very likely on this wicket.

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:42 pm

My post of 25 June, when we were playing the Aussies, could well come back to haunt me ---I sincerely hope not!!

"It doesn't matter which sport ---this is another World Cup that England are not going to win."

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:42 pm

BigChaCha wrote:Only in England would we produce a pitch that completely suits the opposition style of play perfectly!

And this is not hindsight, I was saying this as soon as I saw it.

Why they keep playing these crucial games at Lords I'll never know.

It levels the playing field up too much for the opposition in terms of wicket and crowd. It's hardy home advantage.

Our win rate is also poor here.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:43 pm

We bat deeper than them and bigger than them. I’m still confident.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:44 pm

It’s very much 50/50

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:45 pm

MACCA wrote:Why they keep playing these crucial games at Lords I never know.

It levels the playing field up for the opposition in terms of wicket and crowd.

A win rate is also poor here.

Spot on! We should be at Edgbaston.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:46 pm

England still just favourites with bookies

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:46 pm

You can’t expect to win a World Cup final easily. Will have to do it the hard way.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:48 pm

Keep the faith boys we will win this.!

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:49 pm

CT

Didn't say I agreed with it I was just posting what the computer indicated.

As for the pitch I have watched most games and, shall we say, they have at least been consistent in getting slower as the game goes on. Hardly any of the pitches have been up to standard which is why there have been low scores and very few teams chasing scores down.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:50 pm

BigChaCha wrote:Only in England would we produce a pitch that completely suits the opposition style of play perfectly!

And this is not hindsight, I was saying this as soon as I saw it.

Its not the pitch setup .its lords we have the best batting line up in the world but play the final on the all time leveller square which is lords

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:50 pm

MACCA wrote:Why they keep playing these crucial games at Lords I'll never know.

I can’t imagine they’d ever play it anywhere else when it’s being held here. It’s considered the head quarters of the game worldwide.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:50 pm

Start the car Smith

Morgan flops... again

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:51 pm

Four down - Morgan gone

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:51 pm

Great catch. Not 50/50 now

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm

Great catch in the circumstances. England under pressure again ---looks like the same old story ----and I am the eternal optimist!

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm

Nz to win this comfortably

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm

They say catches win matches and that fellers was a helluva catch

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm

Win rate at lords is less than 45%

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm

What happened to fearless cricket?

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm

I've said it many times throughput the tournament, we don't handle the pressure.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:53 pm

This is muck or nettles now as my old man used to say

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:53 pm

Bottle jobs.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:53 pm

I feel sick we just haven't been at the races
N/Z have played brilliant no excuses we have to really dig in now

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:54 pm

Not looking good, is it?

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:57 pm

England play well when the ball comes on. The ball is holding up and hard to get away..its a nurdle the ball around for singles pitch...we dont play like that

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:57 pm

Not been great at chasing anyway, and under this pressure with this scoreboard, I cant see us pulling it round.
Stokes is the only one in any sort of form.

Butler hasn't had a knock yet, and you can only really ask for 50 from our last 4 ( if overs dont run out )

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:00 pm

I think that win predictor must be a big England fan, it still only has NZ at 51%.

CaptainKirk · Post by **CaptainKirk** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:02 pm

Heard we were good st cricket and it’s on tv so thought I would tune in.
My god, we are as bad at this as we are at football and rugby etc!
And whose idea is the bloody music!!!!

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:04 pm

This is going from us. I agree on the music - it's trash.

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I think that win predictor must be a big England fan, it still only has NZ at 51%.

The bookies disagree. 8/13 NZ 13/10 England

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:05 pm

This really is the key wicket. If these are still in by the 35th we have a chance.