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by wilks_bfc » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:39 pm
BFC123 wrote:Check the source before you believe crap like that.
Who said I believe it? It’s just something I saw and posted
The thread is transfer news/rumours which this is (and a lot more so than half the post have been regarding hair styles)
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by Wokingclaret » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:41 pm
30 million plus fee
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by BFC123 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:52 pm
wilks_bfc wrote:Who said I believe it? It’s just something I saw and posted
The thread is transfer news/rumours which this is (and a lot more so than half the post have been regarding hair styles)
It’s not a rumour if some kid in his bedroom pretending to be a journalist posts it.
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by Rileybobs » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:56 pm
BFC123 wrote:It’s not a rumour if some kid in his bedroom pretending to be a journalist posts it.
To be fair, that’s exactly what a rumour is. The thread is transfer news though - although clearly it wouldn’t be on the first page of this board if we only had posts about our transfer news.
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by Bin Ont Turf » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:07 pm
More from Steve Mallom
DEAL OFF: The deal to bring Memphis depay to Burnley has been cancelled as the players flight to Manchester has been cancelled. #twitterclarets
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by Tricky Trevor » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:08 pm
He’s been top drawer since he got away from OT. No chance.
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by aggi » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:15 am
Disappointing that our recruitment team couldn't finalise this one.
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by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:16 am
aggi wrote:Disappointing that our recruitment team couldn't finalise this one.
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This will be in Nixons rag on Sunday
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by Blackrod » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:52 am
Steve Mallom is a funny lad isn’t he ?
you can tell it’s the school holidays.
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by SGr » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:09 pm
Boden: Asked SD about whether any transfer situations had opened up last night: “(There’s been) No encouragement, it costs money and money is difficult to find at this place."
https://twitter.com/bodenknights/status ... 53483?s=21" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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by Blackrod » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:15 pm
Operation Lower Expectations well underway. We need a CM. 2 weeks tomorrow the window slams shut.Tick Tock .....
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by ClaretAndJew » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:17 pm
What did you all expect?
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by SGr » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:18 pm
We’ve reached that point in the transfer window where you start to read the frustration into Dyche’s interviews.
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by box_of_frogs » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:18 pm
ClaretAndJew wrote:What did you all expect?
Neymar......
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by Murger » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:20 pm
Oh dear. Not looking good is it?
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by kentonclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:24 pm
Amazing how many posts on a transfer thread for a club that involves itself in the minimum of transfer activity
How long until the january window opens
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by ksrclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:33 pm
SGr wrote:Boden: Asked SD about whether any transfer situations had opened up last night: “(There’s been) No encouragement, it costs money and money is difficult to find at this place."
https://twitter.com/bodenknights/status ... 53483?s=21" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This is the bit I really dislike about Dyche. "Money is hard to find at this place". What a load of patronising, disrespectful ******** that is.
He must have broken out transfer record about 5 times since he's been here. And be barely even plays those players anyway.
Sorry, but his rhetoric really winds me up.
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by Rick_Muller » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:36 pm
I think he is tempering the fact that other clubs know we're cash rich, but actually poor
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by SGr » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:38 pm
ksrclaret wrote: He must have broken out transfer record about 5 times since he's been here.
His management is the sole reason we’ve been able to do that. I’d be just a bit worried if after spending half a decade combined with revenues over £100m, the transfer record remained a £3m George Boyd signing.
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by ksrclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:44 pm
SGr wrote:His management is the sole reason we’ve been able to do that. I’d be just a bit worried if after spending half a decade combined with revenues over £100m, the transfer record remained a £3m George Boyd signing.
Exactly. So money isn't hard to find, is it?
Of course it's all relative to the other PL clubs. But he'll have known his budget, so I would suggest he works within it, rather than moaning about it Billy Davies style.
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by FactualFrank » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:52 pm
Certainly frustrating but what can you do.
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by box_of_frogs » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:57 pm
I’d like to know why we aren’t enquiring about Gareth Bale.
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by Spijed » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:06 pm
SGr wrote:His management is the sole reason we’ve been able to do that. I’d be just a bit worried if after spending half a decade combined with revenues over £100m, the transfer record remained a £3m George Boyd signing.
Would spending more actually guarantee any more success?
How many other clubs get to play in Europe, even spending ten times our budget?
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by PremierLeagueClass » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:13 pm
I’d like a bit more context to that quote... it comes across unprofessional and completely out of character.
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by Right_winger » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:15 pm
Spijed wrote:Would spending more actually guarantee any more success?
How many other clubs get to play in Europe, even spending ten times our budget?
Of course it doesn’t guarantee any more success but it drastically increases the chances.
We need to spend some decent money on improving the starting 11 as we have stood still for the past 18months.
One of Dyches biggest flaws is his lack of adaptability in player recruitment. He just cannot and does not seem able to pull of big signings. This will harm his career a
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by JohnDearyMe » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:25 pm
Disappointing to hear. Given the miracles Dyche has worked (including generating healthy amounts of money in player sales) you'd hope that the board would back him more
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by Rileybobs » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:27 pm
Right_winger wrote:
One of Dyches biggest flaws is his lack of adaptability in player recruitment. He just cannot and does not seem able to pull of big signings. This will harm his career a
I doubt it. Unless Dyche is the reason why we cannot pull off big signings.
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by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:29 pm
Perhaps he’s used these words to dampen the expectations of selling clubs of which players we are targeting, in the hope that they realise we aren’t going to up our offer by the £10m’s a time; in which Dyche already quoted this window that clubs are demanding these days.
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by Steddyman » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:31 pm
SGr wrote:Boden: Asked SD about whether any transfer situations had opened up last night: “(There’s been) No encouragement, it costs money and money is difficult to find at this place."
https://twitter.com/bodenknights/status ... 53483?s=21" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
He sounds ****** off to me. Perhaps he is trying to apply pressure to the board to back him?
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by NL Claret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:35 pm
Having listened to 2 Q and A sessions with Dyche, given the opportunity I don't think he would speak to the press.
I wouldn't read much into what he's said.
The media experts on UTC would rather him say we're in for a number of British and overseas targets as we've a stack of cash to burn.
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by jojomk1 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:37 pm
Rileybobs wrote:I doubt it. Unless Dyche is the reason why we cannot pull off big signings.
I would think he still has the final say on all transfer activity (in and out)
He will have dictated the type of players he prefers (Rigg can add further suggestions if, as I suspect, his parameters are thought to be very narrow)
He will also be well aware of budgets available
So if we don't get any further starting 11 players in, then he should take a fair proportion of the blame
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by Goobs » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:55 pm
jojomk1 wrote:I would think he still has the final say on all transfer activity (in and out)
He will have dictated the type of players he prefers (Rigg can add further suggestions if, as I suspect, his parameters are thought to be very narrow)
He will also be well aware of budgets available
So if we don't get any further starting 11 players in, then he should take a fair proportion of the blame
Aye in the same way he should take the vast majority of the credit when he keeps us up.
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by SGr » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:56 pm
Spijed wrote:Would spending more actually guarantee any more success?
How many other clubs get to play in Europe, even spending ten times our budget?
Weird thing to ask considering we’re not in Europe right now...but I’ll rise to it.
Actual figures don’t mean much: we managed to spend around £25-30m last summer without improving the first XI.
However, unless there’s a centre mid who represents an upgrade on Jack Cork available for us on a free out there, yeah I reckon we’re going to have to spend some more money.
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by Tall Paul » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:57 pm
Right_winger wrote:Of course it doesn’t guarantee any more success but it drastically increases the chances.
We need to spend some decent money on improving the starting 11 as we have stood still for the past 18months.
One of Dyches biggest flaws is his lack of adaptability in player recruitment. He just cannot and does not seem able to pull of big signings. This will harm his career a
If only SD could pull off those big signings such as Victor Valdes, Alvaro Negredo, Renato Sanches, Andre Schurrle etc, maybe he too could be out of a job like Karanka and Clement or managing in Qatar like Jokanovic.
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by boatshed bill » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:00 pm
Right_winger wrote:Of course it doesn’t guarantee any more success but it drastically increases the chances.
We need to spend some decent money on improving the starting 11 as we have stood still for the past 18months.
One of Dyches biggest flaws is his lack of adaptability in player recruitment. He just cannot and does not seem able to pull of big signings. This will harm his career a
Perhaps these " big" players just don't want to play for Burnley.
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by Tall Paul » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:01 pm
We get a quote like this from SD almost every transfer window (usually one line taken out of context) and every transfer window the usual suspects tell us that he's ****** off and won't want to stay if the board don't back him more.
He's still here.
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by DCWat » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:08 pm
Dyche has thrown out a few of these type of comments, during transfer windows. I wouldn’t read too much in to them.
That said, we do need to release the purse strings more than we have so far, in this window. The last few haven’t really fulfilled requirements.
As ever with us, it’s a judge once it’s closed.
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by NL Claret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:08 pm
Tall Paul wrote:We get a quote like this from SD almost every transfer window (usually one line taken out of context) and every transfer window the usual suspects tell us that he's ****** off and won't want to stay if the board don't back him more.
He's still here.
They will be holding him to blame too. Some utc posters have hold someone accountable yet are reluctant to give any credit as they know better.
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by Hibsclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:09 pm
All clubs like ours have difficulty getting players that often have ideas above their station and want to play for a big city or top six club...you will continue to see small building blocks every year and not big name signings. It’s obvious and absolutely nothing against Dyche’s ability to attract players
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by aggi » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:37 pm
Spijed wrote:Would spending more actually guarantee any more success?
How many other clubs get to play in Europe, even spending ten times our budget?
Generally yes. With a few exceptions the league tables tend to pretty much match up to what the wages (which generally are pretty similar to transfer spending) are.
There will be one-offs like us coming 7th and Man Utd's current performance but in the long-term not many clubs buck the trend.
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by Tricky Trevor » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:24 pm
NL Claret wrote:Having listened to 2 Q and A sessions with Dyche, given the opportunity I don't think he would speak to the press.
What he has said reads like a direct dig at the board. He would be better off saying nothing, unless he’s pointing out to us that it’s not his fault. That doesn’t tally with his all in this together mantra.
He’s been in charge long enough to fend off journos.
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by occ-claret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:32 pm
At the beginning of the window Dyche and garlick said it would be late in the window when movement happened. Yet still people moan with 2 weeks to go. Patience people
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by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:39 pm
We will break our transfer record this window
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by SGr » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:42 pm
I don’t know. Obviously we keep things quiet and all but word generally gets out from the other end, and recently it’s been much quieter than last summer. Don’t take my word for it at all, but I have just a nasty gut feeling our window is finished.
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by NL Claret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:48 pm
Tricky Trevor wrote:What he has said reads like a direct dig at the board. He would be better off saying nothing, unless he’s pointing out to us that it’s not his fault. That doesn’t tally with his all in this together mantra.
He’s been in charge long enough to fend off journos.
See post two thousand , two hundred and thirty six.
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by Steddyman » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:50 pm
Spijed wrote:Would spending more actually guarantee any more success?
How many other clubs get to play in Europe, even spending ten times our budget?
I think the question we should be asking, is: “With the same manager and the same recruitment team, would spending more money be statistically more likely to lead to an improvement in league position than spending less money”
No other question matters.
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by BOYSIE31 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:05 pm
ksrclaret wrote:This is the bit I really dislike about Dyche. "Money is hard to find at this place". What a load of patronising, disrespectful ******** that is.
He must have broken out transfer record about 5 times since he's been here. And be barely even plays those players anyway.
Sorry, but his rhetoric really winds me up.
Exactly he has ****** about 40 million on shite
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by BOYSIE31 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:11 pm
Hibsclaret wrote:All clubs like ours have difficulty getting players that often have ideas above their station and want to play for a big city or top six club...you will continue to see small building blocks every year and not big name signings. It’s obvious and absolutely nothing against Dyche’s ability to attract players
Then go and get some up and coming younger players who want to play in the big league - the world's a big place
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by ClaretAL » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:15 pm
I really tried to make this thread a point of reference, but its become the norm like Ivy growing and strangling the outcome. Mods, please can you lock the post and possibly make a pinned post for Transfer rumours/updates with links as a pinned post until the transfer window closes, as i do agree with others with the amount if crap currently getting posted lately, without a link will mean it gets lost, where as those of us who enjoy keeping up with our club at work etc, can jump straight to any updates rather than trawl through pages of ego building bo11ocks
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