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DAEL FRY

Postby Foreverly Claret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:02 pm

BBC saying we've had an £8m bid for him turned down by 'Boro .What do we know about him ?

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Re: DAEL FRY

Postby TheFamilyCat » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:03 pm

We know that he isn’t available for £8m.
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Re: DAEL FRY

Postby BOYSIE31 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:03 pm

see other thread

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Re: DAEL FRY

Postby Chip Harrison » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:03 pm

Foreverly Claret wrote:BBC saying we've had an £8m bid for him turned down by 'Boro .What do we know about him ?

Unbelievable!

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Re: DAEL FRY

Postby summitclaret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:05 pm

Bye bye Tarks

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby Tall Paul » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:06 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Take out the 5 game winning run in January and February and our results and form have been poor for a season and a half


That's stupid, why would you take those games out?

If you take out every game we lost last season we were unbeaten. See how stupid it is?
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Re: DAEL FRY

Postby Bosscat » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:08 pm

Foreverly Claret wrote:BBC saying we've had an £8m bid for him turned down by 'Boro .What do we know about him ?



He is an anagram of 'A Red Fly'
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Re: DAEL FRY

Postby Foreverly Claret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:08 pm

Sorry BOYSIE...must have missed it
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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby randomclaret2 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:09 pm

Thats my opinion Paul and you have yours. No need for calling me stupid thank you.
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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby Tall Paul » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:11 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Thats my opinion Paul and you have yours. No need for calling me stupid thank you.


I didn't call you stupid.

Can you explain why you've decided to ignore those five wins in evaluating our results/form?

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby jrgbfc » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:15 pm

Spijed wrote:On a positive note the same pool of players displayed Europa league form going into this season.


And relegation form the first half of the season. You can twist the stats both ways.

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby BOYSIE31 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:15 pm

Tall Paul thinks the current squad is good enough to finish in top ten again

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby gandhisflipflop » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:20 pm

Be thankful we have a club. We almost went out of the league in 1987...
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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby Spijed » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:20 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Tall Paul thinks the current squad is good enough to finish in top ten again


It's certainly good enough to stop up with a bit to spare though!

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Postby Tall Paul » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:22 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Tall Paul thinks the current squad is good enough to finish in top ten again


Do I really? Not sure where you get that idea from.

I'm not expecting a top ten finish, but I think it's good enough to be clear of relegation and if we get a lot of luck a top ten finish is possible.
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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby arise_sir_charge » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:23 pm

Tall Paul wrote:That's stupid, why would you take those games out?

If you take out every game we lost last season we were unbeaten. See how stupid it is?


I've an idea, why don't we look at the fact that over 38 games, we finished 15th with 40 points so realistically there is room for improvement.

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby randomclaret2 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:23 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I didn't call you stupid.

Can you explain why you've decided to ignore those five wins in evaluating our results/form?

I havent chosen to ignore them Paul.I wouldnt have mentioned them had that been the case. I am pointing out that our form has , in the main and with obvious exceptions, , been poor for a season and a half.

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby ksrclaret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:25 pm

Spijed wrote:It's certainly good enough to stop up with a bit to spare though!


The problem is we don't know which Burnley will turn up. Will it be the one who demonstrated pure relegation form before Christmas? Or will it be the one who displayed Europa League form again after Christmas?

Don't forget we've since sold Heaton, who was a huge part of that turnaround.

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Postby FactualFrank » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:32 pm

Just heard a rumour and after 75 pages and over 1700 comments this is the most believable.

We won't be signing a central midfielder.

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby Tall Paul » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:32 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:I've an idea, why don't we look at the fact that over 38 games, we finished 15th with 40 points so realistically there is room for improvement.


That's a good idea and of course there's always room for improvement. I'm sure most of us would be happy with another 15th place finish this season though.

randomclaret2 wrote:I havent chosen to ignore them Paul.I wouldnt have mentioned them had that been the case. I am pointing out that our form has , in the main and with obvious exceptions, , been poor for a season and a half.


You clearly ignored them when you took them out in arriving at your conclusion that our results and form have been poor. You appear to have done it again here, presumably you mean those five wins when you mention "obvious exceptions". What is it that makes them exceptions?

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby randomclaret2 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:36 pm

Im not repeating myself Paul. Ive given my opinion and youve given yours
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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby Rick_Muller » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:39 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:I havent chosen to ignore them Paul.I wouldnt have mentioned them had that been the case. I am pointing out that our form has , in the main and with obvious exceptions, , been poor for a season and a half.

It's that poor that we've been in the Europa League and retained Premier League status for the 4th (is it 4th...? I think so, been here for what seems to be ages playing that badly) consecutive season. God help the rest of the league when we actually hit form...
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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby wilks_bfc » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:40 pm

BFC123 wrote:The headline says 5m but the actual article says it was 2.5m.


AshevilleNCClaret wrote:I didn't read it. You are right..... still think letting him go is the right move.


Swansea bid for £5m Burnley striker Nahki Wells

I've read it Swansea have bid £2.5m for a player we've payed £5m for

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Postby Tall Paul » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:42 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Im not repeating myself Paul. Ive given my opinion and youve given yours


I don't want you to repeat yourself, I want you to explain why you see those five wins as exceptions
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Postby Bin Ont Turf » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:44 pm

Only two more days to go.

Then the black cloud chasers will only need to log on after a match if Burnley have lost.
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Postby martin_p » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:45 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I don't want you to repeat yourself, I want you to explain why you see those five wins as exceptions


Because they disprove his opinion.
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Postby dsr » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:53 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Take out the 5 game winning run in January and February and our results and form have been poor for a season and a half

To be fair, you need to take out the 5-game winning run in early 2018 as well. We can't allow winning runs to skew the statistics.
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Postby BOYSIE31 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:56 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Do I really? Not sure where you get that idea from.

I'm not expecting a top ten finish, but I think it's good enough to be clear of relegation and if we get a lot of luck a top ten finish is possible.

There you just said it :lol:

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Postby rob63 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:00 pm

williamjblazkowicz wrote:Regarding the Fry link, I had a look on the Boro forum and found the following gem:

'£15m plus Gibson and a healthy % of next sale would be my demands.'

:lol: :lol: :lol: :shock: :lol:


Slightly less delusional than Leicester then!

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Postby Tall Paul » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:07 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:There you just said it :lol:


OK, I'll give you that one, I suppose I did.

Presumably you don't think they're capable of a top ten finish, despite pretty much the same squad achieving exactly that a couple of years ago?
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Postby BOYSIE31 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:12 pm

Tall Paul wrote:OK, I'll give you that one, I suppose I did.

Presumably you don't think they're capable of a top ten finish, despite pretty much the same squad achieving exactly that a couple of years ago?


Like i said previously players 2 years older and other teams a lot stronger - so no chance

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Postby Spijed » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:16 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:and other teams a lot stronger


Swap Fulham for Villa and how exactly are the rest of the teams a lot stronger than before?

Can you give examples?

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Postby MACCA » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:19 pm

Spijed wrote:Swap Fulham for Villa and how exactly are the rest of the teams a lot stronger than before?

Can you give examples?


Wolves
Leicester
Everton

( West Ham and Palace are even stronger than they were that season )

Next question?
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Postby claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:19 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Only two more days to go.

Then the black cloud chasers will only need to log on after a match if Burnley have lost.



Imagine if we don't sign anyone before the deadline and then lost on Saturday, there will be the equivalent of the 100m Olympic final by the whoppers to get their thread up on here before 5pm
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Postby Blyclaret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:21 pm

Harry Wilson to Bournmouth. Season loan.
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Postby claretspice » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:24 pm

MACCA wrote:Wolves
Leicester
Everton

Next question?


Leicester have just lost a centre back who (for the money paid) we have to assume is one of the best in the world, and as good as anyone in the division. They have not yet replaced him. Are they really stronger?

I'm never convinced by this argument that the everyone gets better every year so if you don't strengthen, you fall behind. That implies that the league is getting better in standard every year, and I just don't see it.

There's still 2 1/2 days left of the window. Our big priority is a midfielder, but it looks as though we're looking at various other options that could strengthen us if other players leave - Frei or Holgate in case Gibson or Long leaves, a forward in case Vydra leaves, etc. Maybe I'm an optimist, but I'm cautiously optimstic that we'll strengthen the midfield, and it'll be a disappointment if we don't. You'd certainly have to be daft to write off the chances of us doing so yet.

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Postby Spike » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:24 pm

Blyclaret wrote:Harry Wilson to Bournmouth. Season loan.


Left Burnley in 1973

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Postby Blyclaret » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:26 pm

Liverpools Harry Wilson to Bournemouth. Season loan.
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Postby ClaretTony » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:29 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Take out the 5 game winning run in January and February and our results and form have been poor for a season and a half


Take out all the wins and we didn’t win a single game all season and that’s every bit as logical as is take away the run of four defeats and we had 12 games without defeat.
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Postby creepingdeath » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:34 pm

Blyclaret wrote:Liverpools Harry Wilson to Bournemouth. Season loan.



Bournemouth paying a chunky old loan fee according to Nixon

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Postby BOYSIE31 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:38 pm

MACCA wrote:Wolves
Leicester
Everton

( West Ham and Palace are even stronger than they were that season )

Next question?

Beat me to it - wish some people could get their head out of the sand

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Postby Goobs » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:39 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Take out all the wins and we didn’t win a single game all season and that’s every bit as logical as is take away the run of four defeats and we had 12 games without defeat.

it's all irrelevant because if you take out the 23 games unbeaten then we never got promoted in the first place.
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Postby Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:39 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Beat me to it - wish some people could get their head out of the sand


And they’ll be those that wish you would stop moaning non stop. Dreams.
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Postby MACCA » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:40 pm

claretspice wrote:Leicester have just lost a centre back who (for the money paid) we have to assume is one of the best in the world, and as good as anyone in the division. They have not yet replaced him. Are they really stronger?

I'm never convinced by this argument that the everyone gets better every year so if you don't strengthen, you fall behind. That implies that the league is getting better in standard every year, and I just don't see it.

There's still 2 1/2 days left of the window. Our big priority is a midfielder, but it looks as though we're looking at various other options that could strengthen us if other players leave - Frei or Holgate in case Gibson or Long leaves, a forward in case Vydra leaves, etc. Maybe I'm an optimist, but I'm cautiously optimstic that we'll strengthen the midfield, and it'll be a disappointment if we don't. You'd certainly have to be daft to write off the chances of us doing so yet.


They're stronger than they were that season if only by the change of manager. Players aren't the only reason for a side doing well or better than expected with the players they have.
See Burnley for that example

I'm only saying it would be very hard to find an argument we can/will finish 7th again. The league gets tougher for us the more bankrolled teams come up.

Yes theres always chance teams will do a Fulham, but theres also the chance of 1 doing a Wolves.

We need to make sure theres always 3 worse off teams than us, this year will be tougher than the last 2 IMO.

We have the experience and know how, but if 2 of the 3 new boys stay up, it will put us seriously in the mix should we not improve the starting 11 again.
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Postby BOYSIE31 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:41 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:And they’ll be those that wish you would stop moaning non stop. Dreams.

Not moaning and in fact looking forward to the season ahead - even if it one of struggle.

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Postby Tall Paul » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:42 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Beat me to it - wish some people could get their head out of the sand


What do you mean by this comment?

I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting we're likely to finish above any of these clubs.
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Postby tom210 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:45 pm

I thought this was a transfer thread?
Turning out to be just a bickering thread
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Postby Devils_Advocate » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:45 pm

To be fair Random was responding to Spijed who likes to dismiss the first half of last season as if it didn't happen and make out that we are somehow a Europa League form team.

This isn't true in itself cos I think on the form guide we were around 12th-14th for second half of last season plus to just choose the part of the season you did best isn't really a great way of judging things. Random sort of highlighted this by showing if he picked and chose his games he could make us out to be relegation fodder.

The reality is we are neither but that we'have stalled over the last 3 or 4 transfer windows and haven't built on the squad we put together that came 7th and now we are a bottom 5 or 6 team with the likes of Brighton, Newcastle and the 3 promoted teams.

A good midfielder to go with Jay will give us and edge and maybe see us pushing into the 12-14 place bracket but if we don't make that signing this year is likely to be another long slog where we are completely dependant on ths skills Dyche has in making a purse out of a sour's ear
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Postby UpTheClaretsFCBK » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:46 pm

All seems very quiet considering how late in the window we are.

I’m fairly worried about this season, looking at the table I only feel we’re as good as or better than Sheffield United, Brighton and Norwich.

I thought that we’d take it up a level after the scare of last season.

I don’t think it’s a case of not over extending, it’s got a distinct air of the board choosing to save funds. Can’t believe we’re actually in profit for transfers since January.

Let’s hope we can pull some rabbits out of a hat I’m the next two days.

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Postby jrgbfc » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:46 pm

Leicester, Everton and West Ham have all got good managers who properly have their feet under the table now. Southampton have got a decent manager now instead of Hughes. Tbh I think we're nowhere near finishing top 10.


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