Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
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Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
I know who I'd rather have!
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
At this very moment playing for Dyche's Burnley it would have to be Barnes. If I was a supporter of any other team in the league and I had a choice of getting Wilson or Barnes for the same fee, on the same contract, with the same wages it would be Wilson without hesitation
I would guess pretty much every other manager given a like for like choice would pick Wilson over Ash. The same goes for Abraham as well.
I would guess pretty much every other manager given a like for like choice would pick Wilson over Ash. The same goes for Abraham as well.
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
For an international team who are trying to play fast, free flowing football on the deck Callum Wilson every day of the week.
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
Wilson and Abraham are dwarfed by Kane.
Barnes is different.
I take Ashley B
Barnes is different.
I take Ashley B
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
Oh yeah I forgot, Barnes can’t play with the ball at his feet, that’s why all his goals this season have been headersjrgbfc wrote:For an international team who are trying to play fast, free flowing football on the deck Callum Wilson every day of the week.
Maybe I’ve got my tinted specs on but I have a feeling if Ash played for Villa, West Ham or Everton day, he’d be in the squad. Same for Tarks.
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
How about when we were under the cosh against Croatia and the ball were bouncing off Harry Kane?jrgbfc wrote:For an international team who are trying to play fast, free flowing football on the deck Callum Wilson every day of the week.
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
Barnes's conversion rate is spectacular - imagine how many he would score if he played for someone like Liverpool ?!
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
We know who Charlie would prefer
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
For England obviously Wilson. He suits their style of play much more and international refs wouldn't put up with any of Ashley's ****.
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
Yes but he's not Frenchjrgbfc wrote:For an international team who are trying to play fast, free flowing football on the deck Callum Wilson every day of the week.
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
Wilson for England is this serious?
Ash has scored more goals and offers far more to the team.
Ash has scored more goals and offers far more to the team.
Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
Would Barnes be as successful in a less direct team that played a different style? Same as Ben Mee, stick him in a team where the full backs and midfielders bomb on and he's expected to be comfortable on the ball and get left exposed it's a completely different ball game. Not sure why it's so difficult to understand for some people.
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I agree it's a surprise Tarks isn't in. But Southgate has had a look at him in a few squads and maybe just doesn't think he's up to it?thelaughingclaret wrote:Oh yeah I forgot, Barnes can’t play with the ball at his feet, that’s why all his goals this season have been headers
Maybe I’ve got my tinted specs on but I have a feeling if Ash played for Villa, West Ham or Everton day, he’d be in the squad. Same for Tarks.
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
If you compare strike rate, there’s only one answer and that’s Ashley.
For those suggesting Wilson, he has more pace but that’s about it. As for Abraham he has age on his side but overall on current form Ashley is the best and the key thing is he gets better season on season
For those suggesting Wilson, he has more pace but that’s about it. As for Abraham he has age on his side but overall on current form Ashley is the best and the key thing is he gets better season on season
Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
Rickie Lambert anyone? Looking great for an average Prem side doesn't automatically mean you're gonna tear it up playing for a bigger club or England.
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
You comparing Lambert to Wilson? Or Abraham given he has only played a handful of prem games......
Rickie Lambert went from league 1 to the prem in the space of a few short seasons whereas Ashley has been there for 5 of the last 6 seasons
Rickie Lambert went from league 1 to the prem in the space of a few short seasons whereas Ashley has been there for 5 of the last 6 seasons
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
PL Goals last season:Hibsclaret wrote:If you compare strike rate, there’s only one answer and that’s Ashley.
For those suggesting Wilson, he has more pace but that’s about it.
Wilson: 14
Barnes: 12
Mins per goal:
Wilson: 181
Barnes: 199
Assists:
Wilson: 9
Barnes: 2
It's no contest.
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
How many pens?
Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
I like Barnes for us but you have to be pretty cuckoo to claim he’s better than Wilson.
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
KRBFC wrote:I like Barnes for us but you have to be pretty cuckoo to claim he’s better than Wilson.
3 games this season.
Barnes 4 goals
Wilson 0 goals
Perhaps one is getting better and the other one worse
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
One, to Barnes' two. We can deduct them from the total if you likeHibsclaret wrote:How many pens?
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
We can add this season to last and agree that Barnes is better, no contest.....
It is hardly no contest as they have similar records in fact
It is hardly no contest as they have similar records in fact
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
Fixed it for younorthernpowerhouse wrote:PL Goals 2018/19 to current
Wilson: 14
Barnes: 16
Mins per goal:
Wilson: 199
Barnes: 165
Assists:
Wilson: 9
Barnes: 2
It's no contest.
Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
3 games? Is that it, a real shame we only have 3 games to judge them off. Oh wait....Hibsclaret wrote:3 games this season.
Barnes 4 goals
Wilson 0 goals
Perhaps one is getting better and the other one worse
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
Why not go the whole hog and judge them on their entire PL careers?Hibsclaret wrote:Fixed it for you
Wilson - Mins per goal 209
Barnes - Mins per goal 250
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
Leave him alone now he's taken enoughnorthernpowerhouse wrote:Why not go the whole hog and judge them on their entire PL careers?
Wilson - Mins per goal 209
Barnes - Mins per goal 250
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
Rather than choose last season and not this. One is getting better and the other is getting worse. Wilson was at his best before his long term injury.northernpowerhouse wrote:Why not go the whole hog and judge them on their entire PL careers?
Wilson - Mins per goal 209
Barnes - Mins per goal 250
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
If Southgate wants Wilson then fair enough, let him pick him.
Whoever goes will be mainly a bench warmer whilst Kane is fit, they might get 5-10 mins if we are winning by a decent margin or Kane gets injured.
Whoever goes will be mainly a bench warmer whilst Kane is fit, they might get 5-10 mins if we are winning by a decent margin or Kane gets injured.
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Re: Ashley Barnes or Callum Wilson?
maybe because England should have a team built around the strengths of Mee and Barnesjrgbfc wrote:Would Barnes be as successful in a less direct team that played a different style? Same as Ben Mee, stick him in a team where the full backs and midfielders bomb on and he's expected to be comfortable on the ball and get left exposed it's a completely different ball game. Not sure why it's so difficult to understand for some people.
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To be fair, I don't think Southgate is thinking of picking a team for last season.northernpowerhouse wrote:PL Goals last season:
Wilson: 14
Barnes: 12
Mins per goal:
Wilson: 181
Barnes: 199
Assists:
Wilson: 9
Barnes: 2
It's no contest.