18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

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18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Longside4evr » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:57 am

We lots of excuses and reasons why our support has been dripping off
Palace packed the away end all be it best support i have ever seen them bring here in 50 years of watching
That meant they was less than 17,000 home support at a time we was 8th in the League
City home one of the biggest games of the season 17,500 home support lowest we have had against them in years
A side from Tottenham where i have been asked if i want to buy tickets as some fans dont want to go we have sold out
Everton away took the small allocation of 1,800 for a game were Boxing Day always get extra support and only a hour away that has never happened before
Newcastle is the next home game and no more till after Christmas at home and i bet we are nowhere near a sell out
We all have excuses
But have you seen the hordes going off early at home fans leaving 20 minutes now before the end
Lets not put our heads in the sand excuses times of games time of year this is becoming a concern
If we get relegated i seriously belive we are going to tumble into some games of 9,000 crowds if we dont get our act together
Do we need a bigger ground has been the question

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Rick_Muller » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:06 am

So sorry I didn't do a 400 mile round trip to watch us on Tuesday night, I decided to watch on TV instead...

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Lord Beamish » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:06 am

For a growing number of the attending fans that we acquired through getting promotion in 2016, the novelty is wearing off. I think most have now realised that we have reached the glass ceiling of what we can do in this League. 2018’s 7th place finish was a high-water mark, and its effect was to show us that we cannot really cope on more than one front. It’s now just about staying in the Premier League. This will deliver diminishing returns, supporter-wise.
For myself, a long time STH, I didn’t bother this time. I realised last year that the Chase of The Prem was far more exciting than its Capture. I’ll get on matches if I can acquire a free ticket, and may do a few away games as a means to have a long weekend with friends nearby the venue, but, from here on in, I’m a casual supporter.
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by houseboy » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:15 am

Longside4evr wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:57 am
We lots of excuses and reasons why our support has been dripping off
Palace packed the away end all be it best support i have ever seen them bring here in 50 years of watching
That meant they was less than 17,000 home support at a time we was 8th in the League
City home one of the biggest games of the season 17,500 home support lowest we have had against them in years
A side from Tottenham where i have been asked if i want to buy tickets as some fans dont want to go we have sold out
Everton away took the small allocation of 1,800 for a game were Boxing Day always get extra support and only a hour away that has never happened before
Newcastle is the next home game and no more till after Christmas at home and i bet we are nowhere near a sell out
We all have excuses
But have you seen the hordes going off early at home fans leaving 20 minutes now before the end
Lets not put our heads in the sand excuses times of games time of year this is becoming a concern
If we get relegated i seriously belive we are going to tumble into some games of 9,000 crowds if we dont get our act together
Do we need a bigger ground has been the question
It is PL boredom. I said it would happen and many have said also that they are getting fed up of the weekly slog. It's not the club's fault or indeed the fans, it's the hopelessness that has set in because of the way the PL works, it is not geared up for teams like Burnley or Watford or Bournemouth etc., it is simply a rich man's club where many (most?) teams just make up the numbers to make sure there are enough games. Most teams, including us, are looking to finish above the bottom three and hopefully aim for 7th, that is pretty much it, and that is what is making it a tad dull. Some people are happy to watch the skills of other teams and see the big players and if that is what people want that is fine, nothing wrong with that, but others, me included, aren't interested in watching great teams batter us (the second half against City on Tuesday was embarrassing, we couldn't get the ball of them and it wasn't really the fault of our players, City were awesome). We need something to relieve the tedium of 'survival' and that can only come with a cup run, which Dyche doesn't seem to want.

Oddly this is the most open PL I have ever seen (albeit Liverpool are walking it but at least it will be a new name on the trophy) but it remains to be seen if this is the way forward or if it is just a very odd season. Either way we ain't gonna win it any time soon and people have seen the novelty wear off I think.

I don't think Championship crowds would drop to 9k though. We would probably be considered one of the front runners for that and the football would be more entertaining because the fear wouldn't be there. The home crowds wouldn't be a whole lot less than now, maybe 3k down, nothing more.
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:17 am

Would be even less if it weren't for all the tourists/day trippers.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by joey13 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:17 am

A lot of so-called supporters want to see fast flowing entertaining football which apart from a few games you aren’t going to see , my advice is get down to the Bournemouth game where we have pretty much footballed EH’s team off the park the last two seasons

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:20 am

There werent many tourist/day trippers on Tuesday as the club woukdnt sell to anyone without a buying history

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by 2510 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:35 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:20 am
There werent many tourist/day trippers on Tuesday as the club woukdnt sell to anyone without a buying history
I did the 520-mile round trip on Tuesday watching from the James Hargreave Upper Stand (As far up and far-right as you can go) There must have been at least 100 empty seats in a block in front of and around me and the rest of the stands, from my view, looked nowhere near full, apart from the away, City, stand that seemed full.
At least I saw what £500,000,000 can buy!

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:41 am

The novelty has wore off, despite scoring more goals the football is tedius at times with the conservative brand that Dyche employs.

Maybe an exciting signing by Rigg could reignite the crowd?

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Stevie Morgan » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:56 am

If we played the football we did in the half season when Defour was fit and in the team, there would be less of a drop off. It was brilliant to watch and experience.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Greeny » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:02 pm

Contrary to the happy clappers view on here, we are a very dull watch. I have travelled home and away for many years but there is only so much "lump it up front" you can take before it grinds you down. We have players on many £000,s per week in a Claret & Blue shirt who can't trap a bag of cement and struggle to make a pass to a teammate on carpet like pitches. I played football to a decent standard and there were loads of guys who could use both feet, control and play a ball to a teammate on some very poor surfaces.

I was there on Tuesday and I don't live round the corner either, there were a lot of empty seats in the JHU. There have been an increasing number of games over the last 12 months, where the post match view was "we should have stayed in the pub".

I fully appreciate the main aim is to stay in the PL with all the riches it brings but there are obviously quite a number of people who unlike me, just thinking about staying in the pub, are actually doing it. I am not staying away but I am not surprised the interest is waning for lots of fellow clarets. I suspect after the "no fire in the belly/not laying a finger on City" approach earlier this week, will add a few more to that list.
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Rick_Muller » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:06 pm

Stevie Morgan wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:56 am
If we played the football we did in the half season when Defour was fit and in the team, there would be less of a drop off. It was brilliant to watch and experience.
what about the other 35 games that season...?
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:12 pm

I've had a season ticket for around 22 years and travelled home and away until this season. When we got promoted it became difficult for my crowd to all get tickets for away games so the mini buses stopped and that put an end to the enjoyment. I miss how much I used to enjoy it and the away games but I think having a young family and working away during the week means I'd rather stay at home with the kids at the weekend and pick and choose my games. I watch most games at home on a stream and still love Burnley but in general I barely watch any football anymore on TV, I've just lost interest.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Stevie Morgan » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:17 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:06 pm
what about the other 35 games that season...?
You're suggesting he played 3 games that season?

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Rick_Muller » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:18 pm

Stevie Morgan wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:17 pm
You're suggesting he played 3 games that season?
calm down, tongue firmly in cheek. Although Defour being fit and starting then finishing the game was a rarity, you must agree that.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by ClaretAL » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:22 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:06 am
For a growing number of the attending fans that we acquired through getting promotion in 2016, the novelty is wearing off. I think most have now realised that we have reached the glass ceiling of what we can do in this League. 2018’s 7th place finish was a high-water mark, and its effect was to show us that we cannot really cope on more than one front. It’s now just about staying in the Premier League. This will deliver diminishing returns, supporter-wise.
For myself, a long time STH, I didn’t bother this time. I realised last year that the Chase of The Prem was far more exciting than its Capture. I’ll get on matches if I can acquire a free ticket, and may do a few away games as a means to have a long weekend with friends nearby the venue, but, from here on in, I’m a casual supporter.
I can relate to this, and i did have to think on whether to renew or not this time around. My wife has gone through hell the last couple of years so i miss more than i attend, but the reasoning behind still buying the ST is so i have guaranteed seat for me and my son when we do go and they are in a great position middle of JHU, and the loyalty points keep building for the away games tickets when we can attend, and i also want to get the seat next to us for my Grandson. However, with the technology around to watch every 3pm, kick off home and away for the cost of 1 ticket per year, in the comfort of your own home, its is loosing its appeal, especially with the atmosphere not being what it was on the Turf. So I dont think the fanaticism about my team will ever change but the, prioritisation of going to a match is loosing its appeal.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Bosscat » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:32 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:20 am
There werent many tourist/day trippers on Tuesday as the club woukdnt sell to anyone without a buying history
So how did the Norwegian guy on Tuesday night sat 5 seats from us in the JHU get a ticket then :roll: chatting to him before the game he is from Bergen and it was his 1st Burnley match.....

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Belial » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:32 pm

It's because a lot more are getting fed up of the money go round, diving, cheating, richly assembled squads vs. honest teams making up the numbers like ours. Our style of play has gone a bit backwards too - we aren't exciting to watch at all, even when we win 3-0. We're a slightly higher-than-championship level team doing the best we can, which happens to be enough o keep us in the division because there are so many inconsistent teams and often a few worse than us. Sadly can't see how we can attract bigger numbers the way things are. Maybe if we had a couple of decent signings, or a good cup run, although I' doubt very much that we'd drop as low to 9k in the Championship
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by LoveCurryPies » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:36 pm

Fo me a 2 drive to Burnley and then parking half a mile away for a 8.15pm kick off. 10.20pm finish (late for kids with school the next day), getting back to your car and waiting 20-30 mins in the traffic chaos, and then a 1 and 1/2 hour drive, so home around 12.30am.

Add to that sitting in the freezing cold and watching a match that was most likely going to be a one-sided affair....so no it didn't appeal.
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:37 pm

If you guys are bored with playing in the premier
League then you are not true Burnley fans. Ask a Bolton or a Rovers fan where they would like to be playing !!!

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Lord Beamish » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:02 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:37 pm
If you guys are bored with playing in the premier
League then you are not true Burnley fans. Ask a Bolton or a Rovers fan where they would like to be playing !!!
Proper Fan Alert.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:17 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:37 pm
If you guys are bored with playing in the premier
League then you are not true Burnley fans. Ask a Bolton or a Rovers fan where they would like to be playing !!!
So did you find that enjoyable on Tuesday night then? Assuming we stay up this season what is there to look forward to next year, apart from another battle to scrap out 40 points?
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:40 pm

Playing one of the best club teams in the world was never gonna be “ enjoyable “ I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team so totally in command as they were on Tues. TV games certainly seem to impact attendances a little more ,especially night games . All the old “ we don’t get as many as we used to” cliches show their head most seasons . Premier league is often a hideous style over content corporate w@nkfest and nobody gives a sh1t what happens on the pitch . If we do well we’ll get a few more if we don’t a few less but how we play ? Most appreciate we play to our strengths .
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:04 pm

Selling out to Spurs away before general sale suggests otherwise...

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Leisure » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:05 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:32 pm
So how did the Norwegian guy on Tuesday night sat 5 seats from us in the JHU get a ticket then :roll: chatting to him before the game he is from Bergen and it was his 1st Burnley match.....
Maybe Helge (who is also from Bergen and attends every home game and most away games) sorted him a ticket.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:19 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:04 pm
Selling out to Spurs away before general sale suggests otherwise...
New grounds are always popular though. I'd be more concerned about the lack of interest in the Boxing day away game.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by clitheroeclaret2 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:20 pm

Very interesting topic, great to have the website back.

Fan of nearly 60yrs here and fanaticism for BFC will never wane. Unfortunately unable to justify a season ticket on a regular basis.
One of the best things about being in the EPL is the tv coverage.
Really enjoy being able to see most games online, currently in Canaries and the coverage is amazing! Watched games v Palace, City and will see Spurs tomorrow.
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Stayingup » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:20 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:41 am
The novelty has wore off, despite scoring more goals the football is tedius at times with the conservative brand that Dyche employs.

Maybe an exciting signing by Rigg could reignite the crowd?
Thats the answer to freshen up the team. We badly need a Defour and a Barton and a Marney.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Stayingup » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:25 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:17 pm
So did you find that enjoyable on Tuesday night then? Assuming we stay up this season what is there to look forward to next year, apart from another battle to scrap out 40 points?
Well maybe we can improve and lay a glove on them as Sean Dyche would have liked,.next time. Leicester are not mega rich but they have made some really good signings and look - they are above City.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:26 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:17 pm
So did you find that enjoyable on Tuesday night then? Assuming we stay up this season what is there to look forward to next year, apart from another battle to scrap out 40 points?
If that is your opinion then I suggest you stop watching Football or any other sport and take up knitting. Or you could of course become a supporter of Liverpool or which ever team happens to be the number 1 that season.

I did not find our performance against City enjoyable nor the one v Palace either. I did however thoroughly enjoy our 2 previous displays.
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Grumps » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:31 pm

Longside4evr wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:57 am
We lots of excuses and reasons why our support has been dripping off
Palace packed the away end all be it best support i have ever seen them bring here in 50 years of watching
That meant they was less than 17,000 home support at a time we was 8th in the League
City home one of the biggest games of the season 17,500 home support lowest we have had against them in years
A side from Tottenham where i have been asked if i want to buy tickets as some fans dont want to go we have sold out
Everton away took the small allocation of 1,800 for a game were Boxing Day always get extra support and only a hour away that has never happened before
Newcastle is the next home game and no more till after Christmas at home and i bet we are nowhere near a sell out
We all have excuses
But have you seen the hordes going off early at home fans leaving 20 minutes now before the end
Lets not put our heads in the sand excuses times of games time of year this is becoming a concern
If we get relegated i seriously belive we are going to tumble into some games of 9,000 crowds if we dont get our act together
Do we need a bigger ground has been the question
If I actually could read what you were saying I might answer your question

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Bosscat » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:32 pm

Leisure wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:05 pm
Maybe Helge (who is also from Bergen and attends every home game and most away games) sorted him a ticket.
Actually I know how he got a ticket :D ... he runs a sports club with Cristian Kalvenes (best mates) :D
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Grumps » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:35 pm

So how did he get a ticket?

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by houseboy » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:06 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:37 pm
If you guys are bored with playing in the premier
League then you are not true Burnley fans. Ask a Bolton or a Rovers fan where they would like to be playing !!!
That's just a silly assumption mate. Football is a game, an entertainment, or should be, if the entertainment isn't good people will stop going. Simple. Football is too expensive these days to continue throwing good money after bad if you are not enjoying things. All this 'you aren't a proper fan if you don't keep wasting money' really gets up my nose. The whole situation is not the fault of Burnley FC or even Dyche really, it's the way the PL is now made up, it destroys the aspirations of the smaller club and with it the aspirations of it's fans. Years ago the sky was the limit for us, even though we were small, but now there is the proverbial glass ceiling and that is roughly where we are. It's a bit like someone being granted immortality then realising that even life gets a bit dull if you have nothing to aspire to.
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:11 pm

houseboy wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:06 pm
That's just a silly assumption mate. Football is a game, an entertainment, or should be, if the entertainment isn't good people will stop going. Simple. Football is too expensive these days to continue throwing good money after bad if you are not enjoying things. All this 'you aren't a proper fan if you don't keep wasting money' really gets up my nose. The whole situation is not the fault of Burnley FC or even Dyche really, it's the way the PL is now made up, it destroys the aspirations of the smaller club and with it the aspirations of it's fans. Years ago the sky was the limit for us, even though we were small, but now there is the proverbial glass ceiling and that is roughly where we are. It's a bit like someone being granted immortality then realising that even life gets a bit dull if you have nothing to aspire to.

Surely though if someone doesn't attend because they don't find it entertaining (not sure when this word came into describing supporting a football team) then watching exactly the same thing on tv defeats the argument.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by houseboy » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:21 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:11 pm
Surely though if someone doesn't attend because they don't find it entertaining (not sure when this word came into describing supporting a football team) then watching exactly the same thing on tv defeats the argument.
Not quite because it doesn't cost money to sit in your living room, assuming you already have the wherewithal to watch it anyway. And you don't have to use petrol or get cold or get home late after a night match. If it's not an entertainment what would you call it? I know some people like to call it a religion but it isn't. It's a sport but being a fan isn't a sport, it's a pastime, a hobby, call it what you will but if you are not in some way entertained (even masochistically) then you will cease to attend.
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by NottsClaret » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:23 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:06 am
I realised last year that the Chase of The Prem was far more exciting than its Capture.
That's it really. You'll get the odd highpoint in a season, beating Spurs last year, Chelsea the year before. But mostly it's about slogging to 40 points.

In the championship you get that building excitement over a few months when you're hunting down promotion. Electric nights like those at PNE or Barnsley, or home to Boro you just won't get as often in the Prem. I supposed it's whether the odd highlight is enough to sustain interest.

That said, it's taking nowt away from what Dyche and the club have achieved and continue to achieve. It's just a tougher sell, asking people to come and watch us every week as we strive to be marginally more effective than the three worst teams in the league.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:27 pm

houseboy wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:21 pm
Not quite because it doesn't cost money to sit in your living room, assuming you already have the wherewithal to watch it anyway. And you don't have to use petrol or get cold or get home late after a night match. If it's not an entertainment what would you call it? I know some people like to call it a religion but it isn't. It's a sport but being a fan isn't a sport, it's a pastime, a hobby, call it what you will but if you are not in some way entertained (even masochistically) then you will cease to attend.

But if you will still watch something that is non entertaining due to it being free then surely it is a money decision not an entertainment one.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:54 pm

We've stopped going to away games due to persistent standing in front of us
Margaret,who likes us comes up from Reading said at Watford she couldne see for standing fans
Those who know Margaret know shes watched Burnley since the 50s
The whose a proper fan debate is weary but respect for older fans who cant stand up should be a given
We came up for our City game
My only grouse about early leavers is that it got cold when the windbreakers in front of us left
Re Premier v Div 4
I personally hope the journey continues as long as possible
Ive done time watching us on a wet Tuesday in Colchester with 1500 others and even loosing games to top sides like City I know which I prefer.
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by houseboy » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:00 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:27 pm
But if you will still watch something that is non entertaining due to it being free then surely it is a money decision not an entertainment one.
Yes it is a money decision. But people will watch free stuff even if it's crap. Ask anyone who watches Big Brother. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by vinrogue » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:00 pm

Good thread this as I have tuppence to add.

Chap next to me said on 70 minutes look at them leaving it's shocking. I said they paid their money it is their choice and I believe that it is every individuals choice when they leave.

STH I travel 3 hours each way to home games, my choice, I don't want medals and I like to stay to the final whistle as leaving early doesn't really alter my overall journey. My choice.

Friends this morning at football asked what was it like on Tuesday night, I said bloody hell City were a delight to watch as much as I hate them, the movement and the first 3 goals were worth seeing live, the last City goal was our fault for standing off Mahrez. Oh and never forget last goal wins and so we won! Against the top teams in the PL I enjoy the hope of getting something from the game a bit like a cup tie, against the teams around us in the table when it is scrappy I hope we don't lose and against the teams at the bottom I expect us to win and am disappointed to despair when we don't.

I would still travel up to games if we were in Division 1 with 7,000 on. It is a choice and my choice from birth was and is to be a Burnley Supporter at the game if I can.
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Turftalkers mentor » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:04 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:06 am
For a growing number of the attending fans that we acquired through getting promotion in 2016, the novelty is wearing off. I think most have now realised that we have reached the glass ceiling of what we can do in this League. 2018’s 7th place finish was a high-water mark, and its effect was to show us that we cannot really cope on more than one front. It’s now just about staying in the Premier League. This will deliver diminishing returns, supporter-wise.
For myself, a long time STH, I didn’t bother this time. I realised last year that the Chase of The Prem was far more exciting than its Capture. I’ll get on matches if I can acquire a free ticket, and may do a few away games as a means to have a long weekend with friends nearby the venue, but, from here on in, I’m a casual supporter.
Half hearted " supporter "You wont be missed

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by edlass » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:08 pm

It seems like i agree with most people's posts when it comes to:
-Novelty wearing off
-No rivalries to look forward to
-Glass Ceiling
-Style of our football
-State of all football in general

And yet for some reason I really don't want to get relegated?! By Wednesday i'm looking forward to the next match again. I am clinging on to the simple match day experience plus the "i hope we win this next game" mindset and ignoring the points above (until we lose). I sit with a couple of Oldham fans at work and they talk about their next match in the same way as I do, its just in front of less fans at a lower stage but they just hope they win it and that's how i carry on.
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by cloggerclaret » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:15 pm

I've been burnley a fan since 1989 had season ticket for most of that time .I must admit i enjoyed more when we was in the lower leagues but for us to keep progressing has a club the premier league is the place where we need to be

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:22 pm

As an older fan, I have found that the game at this level is changing beyond recognition, aided and abetted by FIFA and the media.
I have always enjoyed a keenly contested game in which tackling was an art and players accepted that they may well pick up the odd injury in a game of physical contact, whether it was when running with the ball or going up for a header etc.,
These days, many players just go down either injured, or much of the time feigning injury, in an effort to have their opponent cautioned and the officials' job is being made more difficult to the extent that even good tackles are being penalised because, in the opinion of the official, the tackler is reckless or causing danger to his opponent. This is being compounded by the so-called pundits spouting all sorts of rubbish to convince us that this is all good.

I had thought that it was the introduction of VAR which was annoying me, however, I have sat and thought about it and this is just part of my disillusionment with the way the game is going with players diving around, holding their head to get a game stopped when they have actually broken their finger or something etc., etc.

I shall always enjoy watching the Clarets because all I expect is that those selected will give 100% and, in the main, they do, even when playing against the stars, however, the ST is not being renewed at the end of this season because I am no longer able to justify spending the money on fuel, admission and food when each home match consists of a 300 mile round trip and has done for the last 53 years.
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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Lord Beamish » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:25 pm

Turftalkers mentor wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:04 pm
Half hearted " supporter "You wont be missed
And another.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by dougcollins » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:25 pm

20:15.

Fine if you live in Burnley, not so cracking for those that don't.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Grumps » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:27 pm

I've been watching Burnley since 1965. I've enjoyed the 1st division years, and the Premier league years, all the other years have been spent trying to get back to the top league so I Carnt understand why people don't enjoy it, it makes all the years trying to get back a waste of time if you don't embrace it.

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by corporal jones » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:30 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:17 am
Would be even less if it weren't for all the tourists/day trippers.
tourists and day trippers? to Burnley!!

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Re: 18 Thousand Strong Home Support Dropping

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:40 pm

Longside4evr wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:57 am
We lots of excuses and reasons why our support has been dripping off
Palace packed the away end all be it best support i have ever seen them bring here in 50 years of watching
That meant they was less than 17,000 home support at a time we was 8th in the League
City home one of the biggest games of the season 17,500 home support lowest we have had against them in years
A side from Tottenham where i have been asked if i want to buy tickets as some fans dont want to go we have sold out
Everton away took the small allocation of 1,800 for a game were Boxing Day always get extra support and only a hour away that has never happened before
Newcastle is the next home game and no more till after Christmas at home and i bet we are nowhere near a sell out
We all have excuses
But have you seen the hordes going off early at home fans leaving 20 minutes now before the end
Lets not put our heads in the sand excuses times of games time of year this is becoming a concern
If we get relegated i seriously belive we are going to tumble into some games of 9,000 crowds if we dont get our act together
Do we need a bigger ground has been the question
It was Palace's first game outside London in about 3 months, so hardly surprising they packed out the away end. If they'd had successive long hauls up t'North in the last month, I doubt it would have been anywhere near as many.
I didn't go Tuesday, fortunately. I get up for work at 4.00am. On a normal match night I don't get home until 11.30. It would have been midnight because of Amazon. Watching it live on the telly was a no brainer, even if it was just as painful. I'm sure I'm not the only one, who finds travelling to night games a problem. I don't advocate leaving early, as I believe the lads need cheering off whatever the result, but I know from experience that leaving the ground 5 mins early, can mean me getting home 20 mins early. A natural phenomenon of traffic congestion post match. And sometimes engagements require me getting home asap.
Any away match live on tv, is going to suffer attendance wise, bastards apart.
Form is always relevant. We have played poorly for the last few weeks. I'm sure if we were on a 4-5 game winning streak, even the matter of 3 hours kip before work wouldn't have kept me away.

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