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Another VAR farce

Post by ALP » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:11 pm

Never seen a penalty..........

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:12 pm

100% a penalty, stonewaller, you can't stand on someone's foot - do you know the rules ?

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by ALP » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:15 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:12 pm
100% a penalty, stonewaller, you can't stand on someone's foot - do you know the rules ?
For a start there are no rules, they are Laws of the game. The step on the foot was certainly not deliberate, therefore no foul!

**** poor decision and I can well and truly understand why Wolves supporters are aggrieved, I would be if that was awarded against us.
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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:21 pm

If someone caught him like that in the street whilst shopping, I very much doubt
that he would even feel it, let alone go for artistic merit in a gymnastic move.
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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by ALP » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:23 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:21 pm
If someone caght him like that in the street whilst shopping, I very much doubt
that he would even feel it, let alone go for artistic merit in a gymnastic move.
Absolutely, that should have been a yellow for simulation, or as Dyche calls it 'cheating', and that is what it was, and VAR bought it; God help the game if this is the future.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:26 pm

Ex Claret Kightly is not a fan either.....
There was a City player encroaching as well. He was in front of the Wolves player who clears and it is just because he got there first. It had no relevance to where the penalty was going.

VAR has got to go
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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by joey13 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:27 pm

Definitely a pen , as for Dyche banging on about diving being cheating , pity he doesn’t instruct his players to stop time wasting, which is cheating.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by ALP » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:27 pm

It's killing the game, Atkinson got it right first time, apart from not issuing a yellow to the cheat

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by ALP » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:29 pm

joey13 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:27 pm
Definitely a pen , as for Dyche banging on about diving being cheating , pity he doesn’t instruct his players to stop time wasting, which is cheating.
Never seen a penalty, you would go nuts if that was awarded against us; I certainly would.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:29 pm

Traore is like sh!t off a shovel.

Cant do the "e acute", other than by copy and paste.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:33 pm

ALP wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:29 pm
Never seen a penalty, you would go nuts if that was awarded against us; I certainly would.
you can say it all you want but if that's anywhere else on the pitch it's a free kick therefore a penalty

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:33 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:29 pm
Traore is like sh!t off a shovel.
I've noticed that this season he's actually added a bit of end product to his game as well.

(I don't know about this match because I'm not watching)

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:33 pm

on another note, how good is the atmosphere !!!!

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:35 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:33 pm
on another note, how good is the atmosphere !!!!
Yeah, it's white hot. That's what can happen when you play a bit of football.
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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:39 pm

Penalty for me.

Standing on someone's foot will always get given.

The encroaching will only get punished if the person clearing it or scoring a rebound is encroaching.
Thick as mince footballers again.

As a sidenote- never let Sterling take a penalty for England.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:41 pm

ALP wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:15 pm
For a start there are no rules, they are Laws of the game. The step on the foot was certainly not deliberate, therefore no foul!

**** poor decision and I can well and truly understand why Wolves supporters are aggrieved, I would be if that was awarded against us.
you can use semantics all you want, you still don't know the laws of the game. A foul doesn't have to be deliberate to be given and never has been, the fact you think it does is rather comical

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Hopey1786 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:43 pm

Mental game so far

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by joey13 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:50 pm

ALP wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:29 pm
Never seen a penalty, you would go nuts if that was awarded against us; I certainly would.
I go mental when any penalty is awarded against us :lol:

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:53 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:29 pm
Cant do the "e acute", other than by copy and paste.
Always here to help é - :D
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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by ALP » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:54 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:41 pm
you can use semantics all you want, you still don't know the laws of the game. A foul doesn't have to be deliberate to be given and never has been, the fact you think it does is rather comical
A free kick can only be awarded in the case of:
A direct free kick is awarded when a player commits any of the following in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force.

A running incident such as this, is certainly non of the above, and these would make this a deliberate act, and I do know the 'LAWS' not 'RULES' of the game, certainly more so than you seem to do.

Not as this game means a lot to me, but the whole of the game is being spoiled by these farcical decisions.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by ALP » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:57 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:39 pm

The encroaching will only get punished if the person clearing it or scoring a rebound is encroaching.
No problem with a retake for encroachment, but this was never a penalty.

Again, not sure why I'm so pee'd off about it, other than the dive, which was cheating.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:19 pm

ALP wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:57 pm
No problem with a retake for encroachment, but this was never a penalty.

Again, not sure why I'm so pee'd off about it, other than the dive, which was cheating.
Someone on twitter came up with a good point. The attacking player has to go down to get VAR to look at it.

They practice going down. I still think it was a pen though.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by ALP » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:33 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:19 pm
Someone on twitter came up with a good point. The attacking player has to go down to get VAR to look at it.

They practice going down. I still think it was a pen though.
Something isn't right in the game, and as already said, if that was awarded against us I'd be furious. But it's Wolves v Citeh and I don't give a shite about either :lol:

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:33 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:19 pm
Someone on twitter came up with a good point. The attacking player has to go down to get VAR to look at it.

They practice going down. I still think it was a pen though.
You're a cricketer, what do you know ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:38 pm

Watching this game in the last 30 minutes or so has been like watching the Clarets with their backs to the wall, defending like the clappers and passing anywhere.

Good to see.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:39 pm

Barmy game - title all over now.

Citeh need to spend some money !!!!!!!

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by ALP » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:42 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:39 pm
Barmy game - title all over now.

Citeh need to spend some money !!!!!!!
Can't understand where Citeh have gone wrong, last season they were unstoppable, they don't look the same class now. Yup, they need to lash the cash now 😂

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Vino blanco » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:51 pm

Vincent Kompany has left the building: City's defence is very poor.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:02 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:35 pm
Yeah, it's white hot. That's what can happen when you play a bit of football.
Or that’s what can happen if you spend 200m on a team of quality internationals which enable you to go toe to toe with 10 man Man City

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Stayingup » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:26 pm

ALP wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:42 pm
Can't understand where Citeh have gone wrong, last season they were unstoppable, they don't look the same class now. Yup, they need to lash the cash now 😂
They've lost Kompany thats the problem. In a tight game he held them together.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Stayingup » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:27 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:51 pm
Vincent Kompany has left the building: City's defence is very poor.
Correct.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by RammyClaret61 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:24 am

Just seen this. Is there contact? Yes, is it a foul? No. The defender accidentally stood on his foot, the city player went down clutching his knee. Simulating he’d been chopped down.

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Re: Another VAR farce

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:30 am

Very similar to the penalty given against Michael Keane when Everton played at Brighton a few weeks ago and which cost Everton in the end.
VAR was criticised by the PGMOL after the event who said that it should not have been given. It appears that nothing has been learned from that experience.

Martin Atkinson treated it as a natural coming together when players are running. One player's foot coming down fractionally before the other player's and no intent to commit a foul, therefore, because of his vast experience in the game, he gave a goal kick, however, VAR shoved its nose in and, in spite of the events at Brighton, decided that it should be a penalty.
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