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Football is going bonkers.
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Correct descision by VAR to be fair.
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Not handball. Not sure why it took them so long. It was obvious on the first replay.
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Did at first glance look unusual bounce and his arm was up but 100% a goal for me
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came off his shoulder, 100% correct decision - no surprise Anthony Taylor got it wrong in the first place though, utterly inept referee
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1-1..................someones hand is offside so ya know what might happen
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Looks like another one here....
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Ouch!!!
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goal disallowed, ffs footy is ******
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you can't score with your hand so how is it offside ???? wtf is going on
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May as well stop celebrating goals.
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Wow, what a farce!
Umpires call type rule is needed IMO
Umpires call type rule is needed IMO
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Agreed, it’s putting me off watching.
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Total Varce!
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VAR what is it good for....
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
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It's killing the game.
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Absolutely disgraceful to rule that goal out. Its quite simple imo to solve this bar scrapping VAR and that is give stockley park 10 seconds to make the decision as thats plenty of time if its "clear and obvious" and if they dont make a decision you stick with the onfield call
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Get rid of this shite.
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It's a bag of shite. Always was going to be.
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If you can score with your shoulder.
Why are they using armpits to judge offsides.
There are far too many goals being judged offside for cm. when the ball being kicked cannot be judged well enough.
It’s madness and it’s ruining the game.
Why are they using armpits to judge offsides.
There are far too many goals being judged offside for cm. when the ball being kicked cannot be judged well enough.
It’s madness and it’s ruining the game.
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I just can't understand why there is all the fuss.
FIFA wanted it, Media wanted it, reported that the Managers wanted it, reported that the PGMO wanted it and many, many fans wanted it so just accept it and get on with whatever game it is that they are playing these days.
Football, as we older fans knew it, is dead and it will be helped into the grave by more digital aids in the future. Goal line technology = superb, everything else is totally unnecessary and has ruined the enjoyment of a game played by humans, which used to be officiated by humans (just 3) and is now being spoiled by those who run the game and the use of digital technology.
FIFA wanted it, Media wanted it, reported that the Managers wanted it, reported that the PGMO wanted it and many, many fans wanted it so just accept it and get on with whatever game it is that they are playing these days.
Football, as we older fans knew it, is dead and it will be helped into the grave by more digital aids in the future. Goal line technology = superb, everything else is totally unnecessary and has ruined the enjoyment of a game played by humans, which used to be officiated by humans (just 3) and is now being spoiled by those who run the game and the use of digital technology.
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Whether it gets decisions right or not it's ruining the match for the spectator. Ends up being a bigger talking point than any skill on show.
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Yeah wanted it on the back of a great world cup where it was used perfectly and the referee made the decision. If everyone who was in favour for VAR thought this is what it would be like then I'm sure the answers would have been differentAshingtonclaret46 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:27 pmI just can't understand why there is all the fuss.
FIFA wanted it, Media wanted it, reported that the Managers wanted it, reported that the PGMO wanted it and many, many fans wanted it so just accept it and get on with whatever game it is that they are playing these days.
Football, as we older fans knew it, is dead and it will be helped into the grave by more digital aids in the future. Goal line technology = superb, everything else is totally unnecessary and has ruined the enjoyment of a game played by humans, which used to be officiated by humans (just 3) and is now being spoiled by those who run the game and the use of digital technology.
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I said it yesterday, it's getting beyond a joke now, it's killing football as a spectacle. Even Souness has just said its a joke!
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Another reason to think twice about renewing next season. This whole VAR carry on is just ruining the game completely.
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Great thought process from Souness. If any part of the players body is onside then the goal should stand.
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Get Referees out of Stockley Park and have an independent assessor.
Stop this ridiculous armpit rule... Defenders are naturally leaning away from goal and atrackers towards goal make it the feet that count and it has to be at least a boot on/offside....
Stop this ridiculous armpit rule... Defenders are naturally leaning away from goal and atrackers towards goal make it the feet that count and it has to be at least a boot on/offside....
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If the feet are onside, then the goal stands. You know, like it used to be. This whole 'his armpit is offside' is just dogshit.
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I'm sick to the back teeth of VAR. We are watching humans play football, not some kid playing Fifa on the PS4. Talk about sapping the joy out of the game. I hope it's binned before next season starts.
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If it takes so long to make such a decision that must be aided by lines separated by the thickness of a gnat's foreskin then it's not a clear and obvious error. If an opposite decison cannot be correctly made with the naked eye then, again, it's not clear and obvious.
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The biggest problem in recent weeks is Taylor getting decisions wrong, which VAR have had to overrule, if he'd got them right we wouldn't be talking about a lot of VAR, it's only been putting right what our awful refs are getting wrong, which is fine. I agree offside needs tweeking.
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Clear and obvious doesn't apply to offsidestaio wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:54 pmIf it takes so long to make such a decision that must be aided by lines separated by the thickness of a gnat's foreskin then it's not a clear and obvious error. If an opposite decison cannot be correctly made with the naked eye then, again, it's not clear and obvious.
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I never knew how much I'd miss a ref and 2 linesmen. All those wrong decisions, vital decisions that those 3 used to make and all those what if's, they're all worth putting up for in the end, that's part of the magic of the game. 2 things now I desperately want back in football...standing up and dodgy ref decisions.
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The controversy in this game is the offside and in no way can Taylor be blamed for that.Grumps wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:55 pmThe biggest problem in recent weeks is Taylor getting decisions wrong, which VAR have had to overrule, if he'd got them right we wouldn't be talking about a lot of VAR, it's only been putting right what our awful refs are getting wrong, which is fine. I agree offside needs tweeking.
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You obviously didn't watch the Womens' World Cup, which was another year down the line, therefore, meaning that it shoud lhave been better than the World Cup. It was a joke in many respects but lots of people just blamed the ladies and said that it would be fine in the Premier League.DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:31 pmYeah wanted it on the back of a great world cup where it was used perfectly and the referee made the decision. If everyone who was in favour for VAR thought this is what it would be like then I'm sure the answers would have been different
We are now seeing the results and it will only get worse!
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Exactly. Among other idiotic VARisms, this is one of the betters. Take the lack of understanding of margin or error, and that the armpit is actually a 3D pyramidal structure with no clear definition of where it starts, then it is more than an absolute farce.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:26 pmIf you can score with your shoulder.
Why are they using armpits to judge offsides.
If we did a snap survey, I'm sure over 90% of fans would say get rid now. But they authorities will make up some nonsense about how they are happy with its progress and implementation, and we are heading for a world of pointlessness.
It's either still a subjective decision, or an "objective" decision using guidelines and technology which aren't fit for purpose.
Make it absolutely clear and obvious overrules or nothing. And let the onfield ref decide
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Offsides do not come under the banner of clear and obvious error ---you are deemed to be onside or offside by the technology available.taio wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:54 pmIf it takes so long to make such a decision that must be aided by lines separated by the thickness of a gnat's foreskin then it's not a clear and obvious error. If an opposite decison cannot be correctly made with the naked eye then, again, it's not clear and obvious.
The shoulder ball is seen as a clear and obvious error, however, had it happened in the Championship or any other English League, the decision would have been accepted, rightly or wrongly and the game would have continued. The offside goal farce would not have happened because the AR did not think there was an offside.
All that VAR is doing is undermining the onfield officials who, in the grand scale of things make very few errors in the eyes of the unbiased observer, but who are now being overruled by someone who is not even anywhere near the game.
It is also not doing a thing to stop players falling over at just the slightest touch and, sad to say, things will only get worse.
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and again at City, Sheff Utd have a goal ruled out for another wafer thin decision - game is absolutely 100% ******.
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Sheff U are getting it all wrong. The way to play against the best teams is stick everyone behind the ball and wait to get beat.
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Ashington. Are you in favour of VAR then or not?
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You know what, the linos hardly ever get offside wrong.
I'm happy to go with that.
I'm happy to go with that.
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Weird there hasn't been a shot on target in the Man City-Sheff Utd game,talk about anti-football.
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Dyche has said on numerous occasions that he’s all in favour of VAR.
Is this because it slows the game down, which suits our style of play?
Is this because it slows the game down, which suits our style of play?
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Just let the Cricket Rugby VAR,decide the football decisions,sorted!
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It's becoming a joke now,even the MOTD pundits are fed up discussing VAR decisions,rather than the fare on the pitch.
What happened to giving the attacker the benefit of the doubt,none of the "offsides" this week were clear on the initial replay,it's only when they freezeframe the incidents and slow them down,that you might find a toenail or thumbnail offside,and even that's debatable.
What happened to giving the attacker the benefit of the doubt,none of the "offsides" this week were clear on the initial replay,it's only when they freezeframe the incidents and slow them down,that you might find a toenail or thumbnail offside,and even that's debatable.