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Ethical Veganism

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:15 pm

Ethical veganism has been ruled to be a philosophical belief by a judge and should be protected under the Equality Act.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50981359

I wonder what the implications of this may be for employers and what they will now be required to provide to avoid being discriminatory.

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:16 pm

If they do it for ethical reasons they better find a better way of mass producing vegan crops...

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:16 pm

Give Blackrod a chance you tight git

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:24 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:16 pm
Give Blackrod a chance you tight git
He'll be too busy with this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50978997
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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by chekhov » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:27 pm

Anything that supports a move away from a predominantly meat based diet has got to be a good thing. Not necessarily towards veganism, but certainly towards a less meat based diet.
That’s both for ethical and environmental reasons.
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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:28 pm

The judgement is sound. Have they decided on the question of whether he was discriminated against because of this belief?

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:29 pm

chekhov wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:27 pm
Anything that supports a move away from a predominantly meat based diet has got to be a good thing. Not necessarily towards veganism, but certainly towards a less meat based diet.
That’s both for ethical and environmental reasons.
This case isn’t going to make any difference

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Wile E Coyote » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:30 pm

thought we'd signed him !!

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by chekhov » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:30 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:29 pm
This case isn’t going to make any difference
Haven’t read the link, so I’ll take your word for it.

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:31 pm

To be politically diverse we need to make sure our next cm is an ethical vegan

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:32 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:31 pm
To be politically diverse we need to make sure our next cm is an ethical vegan
And pansexual
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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by IanMcL » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:33 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:30 pm
thought we'd signed him !!
Not a team player, evidently!

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:34 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:28 pm
The judgement is sound. Have they decided on the question of whether he was discriminated against because of this belief?
Not yet but from the report I don't see how he's got a chance.

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by chekhov » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:40 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:29 pm
This case isn’t going to make any difference
Ok now I’vE read it. So as it relates to the original story I see your point.
Veganism is good but this extreme point of view probably isn’t going encourage folk to eat less meat.

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Firthy » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:48 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:15 pm
Ethical veganism has been ruled to be a philosophical belief by a judge and should be protected under the Equality Act.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50981359

I wonder what the implications of this may be for employers and what they will now be required to provide to avoid being discriminatory.
Just don't employ Vegans :o :x

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:50 pm

Firthy wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:48 pm
Just don't employ Vegans :o :x
Sausage roll test at the job interview

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Paul Waine » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:54 pm

Isn't the guy's concern about the way his pension was being invested?

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by dsr » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:55 pm

It's ironic that he should be campaigning against cruelty to animals by standing next to a fox. Has he any idea what foxes do? Why would anyone who is opposed to the eating of dead animals be stood next to a (representation of) a creature which eats animals without bothering to kill them first?

This is the big problem I have with "ethical veganism". It's all very well claiming that they want to prevent animal cruelty; but they don't. What they want is for humans and animals to live totally separate lives; on the same planet, but with no interaction. Why?

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Firthy » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:10 pm

dsr wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:55 pm
What they want is for humans and animals to live totally separate lives; on the same planet, but with no interaction. Why?

My dogs would be gutted if that happened :(

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:57 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:32 pm
And pansexual
Is that someone who gets excited at the thought of kitchenware????

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Hipper » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:22 pm

I thought of Pans people. Maybe that's how they got their name?

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:43 pm

I could fall in love with my frying pan when I'm hankering after a good old fashioned fryup on a Sunday morning. I also love to get my hands on my wok.

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:00 pm

Veganism is good - but not for your health.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-49579820

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:02 pm

I'm really happy for em, bravo.

Think I'll celebrate with a T-Bone.
Yum.

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Re: Ethical Veganism

Post by dsr » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:20 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:00 pm
Veganism is good - but not for your health.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-49579820
What that survey is saying is that over 18 years, the chances of a meat eater having some form of heart or stroke problem were less tan 1% different from the non-meat eater. Which is too small to care about.

Would I give up eating meat for 18 years to improve my chances of avoiding heart disease by 0.7%? Not a chance. As Auberon Waugh pointed out, nothing is worth giving up just to earn yourself two extra years in a nursing home.

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